National Record Store Day

Great, here comes the wave of flipper defending. Opinions on this board seem governed by the moon's gravity sometimes.

I understand your points but the records are meant for the fans. Therefore, the real answer is that the records themselves shouldn't be as limited as they are. Meet demand and the flipping won't be as ridiculous. I understand the fun of super limited releases for the labels but they should close the gap a little.

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It Was Paul McCartney 2 !

Who?

yeah RSD is just done weirdly. stores not knowing what they are going to get in the mail until the last minute? not knowing what they will be paying for? so strange. but fun day of record shopping is no fun if there is a big list of rules at the door or something. just don't worry about the limited thing. just sell stuff and have fun. don't worry about what people do after they leave. a large percentage of them won't be coming back to your store until the next rsd anyway.

Its a great place to go if you want to buy a copy of that Kansas album with "Dust in the Wind" on it in Good condition for $8.

Wait, who's this McCartney guy again? Is he the dude on that duet with Pink? Oops. I mean P!nk.

No, he is in Foo Fighters.

Its a great place to go if you want to buy a copy of that Kansas album with "Dust in the Wind" on it in Good condition for $8.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, May 10, 2013 10:10 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ah yes, those sort of places. it's like the LP-pricing version of outsider art. these are the places that single out every beat-to-shit elvis and beatles album they come across and price them at $50

yeah RSD is just done weirdly. stores not knowing what they are going to get in the mail until the last minute? not knowing what they will be paying for? so strange. but fun day of record shopping is no fun if there is a big list of rules at the door or something. just don't worry about the limited thing. just sell stuff and have fun. don't worry about what people do after they leave. a large percentage of them won't be coming back to your store until the next rsd anyway.

― scott seward, Friday, May 10, 2013 11:09 AM (3 minutes ago)

Yeah, any rules would make things very uncomfortable. The morning rush is tense as it is. But I totally understand any effort of the store to get on the good side of the customers that actually might shop there before the next record store day! Beneficial to win them over, nothing to lose pissing off the ebay opportunists in the process.

i didn't realize the steve gunn/hiss golden messenger record was an RSD release. i kinda want that.
but i got the charlie poole record from my pals in RVA, so what do i care.

"I4n J0hnson: Interested in only the least popular RSD titles since 2010."

Ha, Yeah I had been getting some of the Vanguard reissues yearly (none this year) myself and I don't think anyone else really cared about those either.

Well, my haul consisted of the Davy Graham ep, £6 or thereabouts.

I did get the Half Japanese CD set, but directly from the company for £20 or thereabouts.

There kinda sorta already are rules: http://www.recordstoreday.com/CustomPage/1038

Granted, not RULES rules, but there you have it.

they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day
they have agreed to act in the spirit of Record Store Day

What are the consequences if they don't, I'm wondering.

last time i checked there were a pile (i.e. at least 4 of them) of those flaming lips Zaireeka boxsets in my local shop ..

Consequence is that you don't get any records for next year. Store by me got in trouble and aren't allowed to participate anymore.

That's good, I guess.

But I get really critical and start to wonder — if there is a "pledge" like this, were these sorts of places ever on the buyer's side in the first place? Because "the pledge" was created out of unflaterring circumstances, right?

Just wondering out loud.

More reason for me to just sit the whole thing out, I guess.

Right I think the past issues of this nature motivated them to create the pledge. The conditions of the pledge aren't asking too much of the stores, honestly.

just look for the red badge of courage.

mark e, yeah and their own website has it on 'special offer' too...

even if all of the records went into the hands of true fans, lots of them would sell anyway if the price was right. the crazy ebay prices are not caused by flippers, they're caused by the labels pressing stuff in limited editions.

I mean, I don't think I own a single record that I wouldn't let go of for $100! It's just a record.

Great, here comes the wave of flipper defending.

Fuck you Flipper rules

haha

Somebody doesn't like Flipper? Oh I see.

We have so many flippers that aren't RSD specific, it's kind of fucking annoying when one of them comes in and buys up some reasonably priced stuff because he can sell it on Amazon to some lazy ass with more money than sense. I would totally rather have sold that copy of Fahey's "America" to someone who would listen to it instead of cash it in so he can buy more duplicate Beatles albums.

In conclusion the internet ruined record shopping thx.

Or sells it to brazil or something for double.

I just price the easily flippable stuff higher now. if someone wants to buy all my pink floyd records at once to sell online they are gonna pay for them. but I don't price them SO high that a kid who just wants the record won't buy it.

$15-$20 each?

around there, yup.

i think it was a day a couple years ago when someone came in and bought every beatles album i had - like 10 or 15 records - when i decided that i would go up 5 bucks or more for clean copies of stuff like that. i mean i'm still pretty cheap compared to some places but i want kids getting into records to be able to buy normal rock stuff. they come back for more for one thing. unlike the guy who wiped out my beatles section. never saw him again.

i give great deals to actual dealers cuz they bring me boxes of records and they buy pricy stuff and other things that most people wouldn't buy depending on what their specialty is. but the amateurs bug me. every once in a while one of them will ask me why i don't have a section for sealed records and i laugh and tell them to start digging. lazyasses.

Ha. Such a shame though, fair prices can be tough to come by. Hate to see anyone ruin that for everyone else.

How is that Charlie Poole record Ian?

this is a good one!

http://thewire.co.uk/in-writing/essays/collateral-damage_numero-group-on-the-vinyl-bubble

VERY good.

Half of the ridiculous format gimmicks cited were at the hand of Jack White alone. The point stands but it's not like liquid filled records are as common as clear vinyl for instance.

Otherwise the article is a bit too true.

It's hard to not get caught up in the guilt associated with not owning the limited pressing of a new or reissued record. So many releases come in at least 2-3 versions and the practice is so interwoven that it kind of trains buyers, and many times I fall victim admittedly, to desire to own a copy over the desire to actually play it.

Trying to fight that mindset- it's particularly tough because as a kid I LOVED to collect cards... so that compulsion just kind of carried over and applied itself to my music collecting.

What they need to do is make liquid filled records that have multiple colors and oil and stuff, then make a turntable that doubles as an overhead projector, so that as the record spins, it projects a 60s psych light show.

Vinyl bubble will probably burst soon though. At Value Village thrift store they are selling used LPs for FOUR DOLLARS. I'm not talking Beatles and Elvis records someone pulled out of donations and set aside at the front counter, I'm talking beat-up, terrible quality, scratched-to-hell Mantovani Christmas/Barbara Streisand/Barry Manilow standard thrift store fare.

The vinyl marketplace is probably permanently contracted, but rather than over-serving the superfan, it should pivot toward super-serving the casual fan. Anyone should be able to walk into any record store in the world and buy a standard vinyl copy of Nevermind for a reasonable price, rather than confronting the 180 gram pressing or the deluxe quadruple LP that fishes for their cash from a lofty wall display. In its attempts to scrape profits out of a niche, the business has squeezed its output out of the bins entirely.

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What they need to do is make liquid filled records that have multiple colors and oil and stuff, then make a turntable that doubles as an overhead projector, so that as the record spins, it projects a 60s psych light show.

Man, I want an under-lit turntable with a clear plastic platter so bad now... I've got tons of clear splattered and colored vinyl that would be tons of fun to play!

I have a feeling vinyl will eventually become like comics where a few mint copies are worth big bucks and any other condition is worthless. Hopefully the actual CGC won't get involved though.

I think the used collectable vinyl bubble has 30 or 40 years left before it bursts completely. I'm 36 and am probably at the tail end of people who remember buying mainstream music new on vinyl. Then you have people who got into vinyl through dance music or hip hop who probably extend down another 10 years. So let's say that 25 year olds are maybe the last large group of people who are going to have a nostalgic connection to vinyl (and even that is probably pushing it). Collector craziness seems to peak around 55-65 when people have a bit of money and want to get nostalgic for their youth. So I predict that prices will plateau around 2033 then gradually decline down to 2053 and a then a huge drop in value after that.

go to head in bristol : literally 1000s of unloved 'limited'edition 7" and 12" singles by various label (small indies and majors) hopefuls.

But eventually they will come out with commercial 3d printers that can reproduce vinyl at the atomic level. It's pretty much a given fact. Either 5-15 years down the road.

Indistinguishable from the original? Doubtful. And will they be cheaper to make than buying the original?

Maybe you just put your trash in a converter and it converts it to raw matter you use in these 3d printers, in which case yes.