The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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setlist here if you wanna ruin the surprise. i would heartily endorse waiting for the added thrill of omg they're playing ___.

also, none of them have aged.

schlump, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I peeked. Mainly wondered if they'd play any of the pre-YMMR stuff, doubted they would but y'know. I've been out tonight so probably won't remember the setlist tomorrow anyway. What was that about blackouts?

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i have no idea what blackouts are/were/refers to but they didn't seem to figure? it was pretty great ... i forgot what a super thrashy guitar band they are. so sweet on uhhh the fifth song, too.

schlump, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

sup
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2576669252_6f4dfc37f6.jpg

Steve Shasta, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh never mind, I was making an oblique reference to an ILE thread from a few days. xpost

SPOILERZ :D

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh god, that is a monster set! Although, pretty much any combination of songs from anything after Ecstasy and Wine would make me say that.

Z S, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahaha, figures -- it's almost the same setlist as last time around, just reordered.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"So this is the third leg of the Loveless tour..."

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought of this whenever someone hit me in the face with a camera

"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 1992: "HOLYFUCKINGSHITITSSOLOUDICANTMOVETHINKGAARRAAGGHH"
"You Made Me Realize" crowd reaction 2008: "Dude it's the part where it gets loud and crazy! I'm going to blog about all this via my iPhone. OK, I'm going to go get a beer"

it was at the ica, which is a nice cultural events venue in london, and the crowd were pretty snappily dressed. that's not a bad thing or anything, it's just like the jamc thing of the audience being pretty different.

schlump, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh god, that is a monster set! Although, pretty much any combination of songs from anything after Ecstasy and Wine would make me say that.

THIS ^^^^^^

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

( i wonder if they're gonna do the same setlist the whole tour? did they switch it up in 1991-92 ? )

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting they're playing 4 of 5 tracks from the YMMR EP. and only 5 out of 11 songs from Loveless (two of which overlap with EPs prior). no "Sometimes" is surprising to me. ah well, great show anyway i'm sure.

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i especially miss "Loomer" and "Come In Alone" on the setlist there

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

might i add before i stop posting: i'm burning this setlist to a CDR right now. gotta listen to it sequenced properly. will report back soon. (anyone else doing the same?)

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

((( six tracks from Loveless it looks like, not five, sorry )))

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd love to hear "What You Want", bootlegged. If this ever happens, please notify me here. I don't need the link, I'll find that myself.

Z S, Saturday, 14 June 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, if anyone can bring over a new bag of coffee, I'd appreciate it, I'm running low. Thanks guys.

Z S, Saturday, 14 June 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

The only notable difference is a little less Isn't Anything than in 91-92, but that's made up for in the EP B-sides.

Well, at least the wondering is over, for better or worse.

Mackro Mackro, Saturday, 14 June 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

And glad to see that they kept "Honey Power"... the song that should have been on Loveless and a hit but wasn't... sorta.

Mackro Mackro, Saturday, 14 June 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"Honey Power" roooooooolz

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

so how long do i have to wait for a boot of this gig

electricsound, Saturday, 14 June 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

glad to see they haven't done anything productive in 16 years!

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 14 June 2008 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

one word, Curt1s:

http://www.greghughes.net/images/chinchilla_clones_md_small1.jpg

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

CHINCHILLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHy2nHirO04

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 14 June 2008 09:54 (fifteen years ago) link

would have liked to have seen Drive it all over me on there, otherwise - all good

Porkpie, Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:08 (fifteen years ago) link

That video sounds like it was so fucking loud.

jonathan - stl, Saturday, 14 June 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Viewing and hearing these clips, I noticed that the sound limitations that go with the convenience of people being able to upload live snapshots to YouTube (i.e. something no one even thought was possible in the future in '91/'92) is thwarted, seemingly, by the volume of the show -- which ironically STILL preserves the mystery of what the live show will be like, as far as the acoustics go. I gotta give MBV that much, whether they knew this or not.

Mackro Mackro, Saturday, 14 June 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

would have liked to have seen Drive it all over me on there, otherwise - all good

exactly.

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 14 June 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i122/bennewmanx/DSC00182.jpg

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 14 June 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KI5QV96A
mp3 of the show

milo z, Saturday, 14 June 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

they kind of got it together a lot more for the second show; the sound better, them playing together more on the loveless stuff, a couple of different songs (c'mon, just wait and be surprised). it wasn't as loud but was twice as heavy, which reminds me of some old ks interview where he's explaining the difference, being able to feel some kind of heaviness-es rather than just hear volume. totally mindblowing and stuff, anyhow. those pictures are nice.

schlump, Saturday, 14 June 2008 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

it wasn't as loud but was twice as heavy, which reminds me of some old ks interview where he's explaining the difference, being able to feel some kind of heaviness-es rather than just hear volume.

I wouldn't know anything about that. (Scroll down to me asking about their shows in 1992 at the Roxy and the Palace.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 June 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, ha-ha. silly me. i'd thought it was from the one where he was answering a question about whether they'd support oasis if they were asked, and the answer was purely about it being conditional on the soundsystem. i hope someone good gets to interview them again, soon. did you ever see that sixty minutes interview with dylan where the guy just kept asking 'but HOW? did you WRITE? that SONG?!' about blowin' in the wind, or something?, all reverant and mired in myth? it'd be cool if they were freed from the standard journalistic hazy-dreampop-ephemeral-sensuous vibe, and someone mentioned the joys of kevin's voice/colm's snare-drum abuse, &c. the loveless book's fantastic, but all the other stuff i've seen's just really tired echoing.

schlump, Sunday, 15 June 2008 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I really should say that for all I know that's a standard answer of his. I've hardly done the definitive interview! (Mike McGonigal did, if anyone has.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 June 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

ah, wow, that interview's fantastic. everyone ought to read it for topical contextualisation. the difference tonight was really interesting; last night they sounded like a really guitarry garage band, with stupidly painful guitar noise, and then tonight it was much warmer, and fuller; not really abrasive or even loud, in a way. getting it to be a 'bodily' thing is pretty difficult, i think. there's that jim dickinson quote about live music being 'pushing air around', and the difference between last night and this evening was that the former was like looking at something (kind of like listening to a cd, where it just hangs around on the floor), the latter like feeling it (like a record!, which fills up the room).

schlump, Sunday, 15 June 2008 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

oh, i don't know; i remember reading all of those interviews when the guy put the site up, i don't think i came across it anywhere else, and it seemingly stuck in my head ...
that you also elicited him talking about the band just being the three of them's really cool too. i remember the mike interview having the bit where he says/reveals that, bar touched & bilinda's vocals, he's the only musician actually playing on loveless, which seemed really revelatory. i think i like that book as much for the digressions* as the info, but it's great info.

* by some twist of fate, i had to return my ticket for a screening of tony conrad's the flicker to attend the ica show, something the book references at some point.

schlump, Sunday, 15 June 2008 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks much for the kind words! That interview was done so long ago that there are many things about it I would have done in a different fashion, but it's a nice historical reference point at least.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 June 2008 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link

for sure. i saw a great documentary about andy goldsworthy once, and he's a really endearing guy, he sort of talks in questions, pretty satisfied to be puzzling stuff over rather than answering it, and, not that i think ks is necessarily like that, but there's a lot of interesting stuff that comes up in interviews because of his thoughts; there's a bit in the loveless book where he says that a slight deviation or distortion of something - like francis bacon's variations on the human form - is freakier & more unnerving than something entirely alien and totally spooky like a jellyfish, and that their music has the same value.

about doing things differently, i saw him at a brian wilson show once, and was so determined not to add to the chorus of gangly kevin fans shouting about loveless saving their life that i went up and said i hoped he was doing o k. ahh. it is really nice that they're playing again, anyhow.

schlump, Sunday, 15 June 2008 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

was so determined not to add to the chorus of gangly kevin fans shouting about loveless saving their life

Hey! :-D

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 June 2008 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

The 13th Gig has gone up on D1m£ad0z£n for all those MP3 haters. Supposed to be very good quality too, I expect the 14th will go up soonish.

MaresNest, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

there's a bit in the loveless book where he says that a slight deviation or distortion of something - like francis bacon's variations on the human form - is freakier & more unnerving than something entirely alien and totally spooky like a jellyfish, and that their music has the same value.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

Bodrick III, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Has anyone that's going to the Glasgow gigs received their tickets yet? They're cutting it pretty fine

no, i've not ... the e-mail says only to worry if you've not had them a week before the gig :/

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 15 June 2008 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Glasgow ticket site was so shonky a mate of mine phoned up from Sydney just to be able to book!

energy flash gordon, Monday, 16 June 2008 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

My Bloody Valentine @ ICA, London - You Made Me Realise 13/6

90 seconds of dense, suffocating feedback with Kevin's guitar sounding like a jet engine over the top :O

stephen, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:29 (fifteen years ago) link

quite a short version then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 08:22 (fifteen years ago) link


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