Stina Nordenstam

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Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i love stina

amateur!!st, Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll share it if i remember to bring it home from work tomorrow!

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

hurrah!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

i also love stina.

What does she sound like now? Is it really her metal album? mmm...

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 9 September 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

From what I have heard and read about the new album, it mixes the lo-fi guitar gloom of "this is" and "dynamite" with hints of jazz and chamber pop.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 10 September 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.sonicmagazine.com/bilder/sonic18_omslag_liten.jpg

Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I said it was a metal album based on the font

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

(Oh, that's not the album, that's a magazine cover.)

Hanna (Hanna), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Her website was just revamped today. There is going to be a limited edition book (200 copies) full of texts and pictures (and possibly music) by Stina and her fans.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.seekyoudanger.com/fragments/

this is a request from the swedish singer stina nordenstam.

i am working on new material for my 7th album and want alien contribution. i want strangers to send loops, bits and pieces of non-musical sounds, documentary, everyday sounds - as well as beats. naturally it is potentially more interesting with sounds i can't associate to. the other thing i will be looking for is how the loops are constructed, put together. i don't want to be too specific as a lot of time the best is in the unexpected. so, i am not asking for any particular style. i want things out of the ordinary, with character, inspiring. in any way. i don't want songs. i don't want harmonies. i want construction pieces.

stina nordenstam

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 10 September 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Hot dang. Everyone get on that! (Hell, maybe I'll send my number snippet from Pi.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 September 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm totally going to flood her (ftp) hole with entries.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 10 September 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I would so love her if only she switched to a sort of benzodiazepamed style of metal.

ian g, Friday, 10 September 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

not the best audio quality, but here's the new single:
http://www.itsatrap.com/special/stina_nordenstam-get_on_with_your_life_mono.mp3

A friend of mine hooked me up with an album track as well and it's amazing.

Avi (Avi), Monday, 13 September 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Danke!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Awesome... thank you.

Angie, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

an advance copy (11 tracks) has leaked

the todster (the todster), Thursday, 16 September 2004 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a copy of This Is Stina Nordenstam for the first time ever today, but for import prices. Should I get it? She looks nice on the cover.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it from the one listen, I recall it being quite subdued.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"This is" is excellent. Basically, itt is like a poppier version of "People Are Strange".

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

have we has a "This is..." general track-by-track discussion? ANyone fancy it? It's been turning up on my iPod a lot lately. Brett guesting vocals C/D? eek

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, we've done it to death at the Stina messageboard, but not over here. My favorites are "Keen Yellow Planet", "Circus", and the big MIDI-horns DANCE hit "Lori Glory".

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

the bridge from the be-brett-ed Keen Yellow Planet right into Lori Glory is fun. Everyone Else in the World, and Clothe Yourself for the Wind stick with me too.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Hm, so it wasn't as subdued as I thought, then? (It's been a while since I listened in.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm almost afraid to hear it. Dynamite was one of those perfect aesthetic pinnacles for me, and while I like People Are Strange it's necessary for me to think of it as not being a "real" album.

Wow it's eight years since Dynamite. That was a fucking formative record for me in retrospect.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

oddly i leapfrogged dynamite - must re-listen asap. Oh and Stations is grebt too.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

The one-two punch of "CQD" and "Down Desire Avenue" was just mindblowing at the time (probably still) - the way it's simultaneously so restrained and so over-the-top. I didn't think it consciously at the time, but what felt lacking in People Are Strange for me was that overblown melodrama (except on "I Dream of Jeannie" maybe); without it the restraint tipped everything over into mutedness.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Dynamite is incredible, an emotionally exhausting record. Rachel Goswell from Slowdive/Mojave 3 has mentioned it as her favorite record of all time. "This Is" and from what I've heard of the new one coming out maintain the ethereal edge, but it is more of a lo-fi dirty pop mode. Her aesthetic might have slightly shifted, but I still find it affecting.

On another note, Stina is one of the few artists where I often have to emotionally prepare myself to listen to.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a copy of This Is Stina Nordenstam for the first time ever today, but for import prices. Should I get it? She looks nice on the cover.

When I visited the UK about seven years ago, this was one of the things I specifically searched out (The Vulgar Boatmen's Opposite Sex being the other). I have listened to it once, maybe twice the whole way through. If I didn't go all that way for it, I'd have sold it a long time ago. Personally, I think it lacks the production that made her next one so special. The songs are kinda, eh. Download it.

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

MENTALISM

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

what was the next one?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

"The World Is Saved", which is out on October 11th via Stina's own A Walk In the Park Label. Being distributed by V2.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link

what was the next one?

and she closed her eyes

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Frank, you are OUT OF ORDER. Please wait until you are called to speak ;)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

uh, let's see here... i posted with a reference to "the next one". you posted your response. Jaunty asks "what was the next one?". I responded. so, uh, fuggov.

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I was referring to the fact that "And she was closed her eyes" was released 7 years before "This is".

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I am assuming you meant "And She Closed Her Eyes" was the next one you bought.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

correction: my story refers to Memories of a Color. i will now fuggov.


frankE (frankE), Thursday, 16 September 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

oo, memories is, ahem, a bit forgettable.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 16 September 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

adam loves it!

it took me a long time to warm to This is; I was disappointed when it came out, but when I went back to it a year later with fresh ears I found more to like. It's much more pop in many ways. I didn't even realize until yesterday that was Brett Anderson on it.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 16 September 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I am liking the new record a lot.
Here's a new track: http://www.itsatrap.com/special/stina_nordenstam-parliament_square.mp3

(the other one is now taken down)

Avi (Avi), Friday, 17 September 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

!

Thanks

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 17 September 2004 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Ha, she seems to have stolen the saxophone I used on my ILX comp song

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 17 September 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

get the new album here while you still can

the todster (the todster), Saturday, 18 September 2004 06:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never actually seen copies of 'This Is...' or 'Memories...'; I quite like them both on download. 'Memories..' is her weakest, but it's nice enough to own. If anyone is looking to get rid of either, send me an e-mail; i'd be happy to do a trade or something.

I'm tempted to hear the new album now, but I'm going to wait until I buy it. I'm going to buy it, regardless, but I've realized how unhappy I am when all the albums I want to buy I've already heard. There's just no excitement in that. I trust, of course, that I'll be able to find the album when it's out... maybe I'll just bring my Stina list to Scratch and get them to order everything.

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 18 September 2004 07:02 (nineteen years ago) link

To reiterate: I fucking love Dynamite.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
You can stream every track from the "The World is Saved" as well as see the video for "Get On With Your Life" over here:

http://www.v2music.com/site/audioVideo.asp?avType=11

(scroll down to "S")

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 24 October 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I can't stress enough how great The World Is Saved Is, much much much better than This Is... in my opinion. It's pretty much the album I've wanted from her ever since Dynamite - dark, lush, involving, ornate. It proves as well what I'd long suspected, which is that she is one of the most interesting arrangers of pop music around - this album sounds like Pram meets Siouxie & The Banshees circa A Kiss in the Dreamhouse meets Maxinquaye with added orchestral instruments. The last bit is key I think - Stina's music sounds best when it is arcane and a bit antiquarian, because it gives her vocals some sort of contextual framing that makes them much more interesting.

The combo of "From Caymen Islands With Love" and "The Morning Belongs To The Night" is particularly affecting.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 November 2004 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link

What label is it on, and is there an upcoming canadian release date that I'm not aware of? It's nowhere in town yet :(

derrick (derrick), Monday, 8 November 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

re: Stina and Sylvian, I'm somehow convinced (with no proof whatsoever) she wrote "Greetings from the Old World" by way of a salute to him when he moved from England to America. I remember reading her generic explanation of the song on her Myspace site and adding (my) 2+2.

Max Florian, Saturday, 25 April 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

discovered her thanks to akm's mention in the cassandra jenkins thread and wow i love her first two albums, especially and then she closed her eyes. i really love all the sax, it feels like music i've been wanting to hear forever.

dynamite is intriguingly strange but hasn't quite clicked for me yet, it's quite a left turn but i'm hoping it will open up to me. it feels sonically of a piece with from the choirgirl hotel, but pushed further into that realm in a way that tori never did. the contrast between her quiet, deadpan vocals and the kinda industrial/post-punk backing is fascinating

looking forward to checking out the rest of her output

ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2021 12:29 (three years ago) link

The first two Stinas are def the most aligned with the Cassandra Jenkins record (which is completely great), insofar as they have more light and warmth in them than her later albums - the 'sound' of early spring, watery tentative sunshine, lengthening days etc. Really brisk and fresh.

The subsequent Stinas all feel really bound up with autumn/winter to me, to varying extents - all are great but it's a much chillier vibe overall. Dynamite is the one that leans most into 'encroaching gloom'. FTCH is a really interesting comparison and one that hadn't occurred to me before.

I disappeared down a bit of a This is Stina Nordenstam wormhole upthread but I do still think it's her strangest record in that it tries to make a big (tiny) crossover pop record out of a fuzzier version of the Dynamite sonic palette and ends up sounding like some kind of plaintive alien bulletin or... something.

technopolis, Thursday, 25 February 2021 13:25 (three years ago) link

I think the World Is Saved is her best album. I wish she'd return to recording.

akm, Thursday, 25 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

God I love 'Dynamite' so much. Dig 'This Is' and 'People Are Strange' and 'The World is Saved' and the rest. But 'Dynamite' stands out, for me. Such an elemental sound--those crunchy guitars paired with the Reich-ian strings, and her voice... An album that hasn't aged a day.

I'm afraid she's going to go the way of Mark Hollis--silent until silenced.

Soundslike, Thursday, 25 February 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

I feel like there's a big jump in skill and quality between albums one and two - And She Closed Her Eyes really codifies some qualities that define her subsequent work despite the massive stylistic shifts.

Like, the voice is the same but from the first line of "When Debbie's Back From Texas" you can hear how much more aware and deliberate her use of it is - this Rickie Lee Jones in an iron lung quality, superficially blank and stripped (or evacuated) of affect, yet perversely affecting. A quality that extends to her suddenly incredibly sharp lyrical economy, conveying entire worlds and personas with the smallest number of words possible.

"From Cayman Islands With Love" from The World Is Saved is a great example of this:

Half a day behind and miles away
I'm on a beach
The only one around I know who can't
Enjoy the heat
I bought the postcard
Now I have to write the words
I left the country
There's a chance you may have heard
Grand Cayman is great
Of course it is
Weather like this
Living is great
Of course it is
What else did you think
What else did you think
I said I want a man and not a boy
You left the room
The Caribbean sun so leaves me cold
You never do
I want to see you
Even want to see you bleed
I can't believe I paid for this
There's nothing here I need
Grand Cayman is great
Of course it is
Weather like this?
Living is great
Of course it is
What else did you think
What else did you think

... The deliberateness emptiness of "weather like this?"... I love it.

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link

... That said, the last two tracks of Memories of a Colour are the best on the album, so if you listen to the first albums back to back it's like Stina is gearing herself up.

Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

I bought "And She Closed Her Eyes" in 1994 when I was in high school - I think I bought "Park Life" (!) in the same haul. Mark Radcliffe had been playing "Little Star" every night on his Radio 1 late show.

Anyway, it's just the most beautiful record - I think it might be favourite ever album, the only album I've never gotten bored of listening to. I used to put in on with "Five Lives Left".

I can't believe The World is Saved was released 16 years ago. And look at idiot me above, thinking ten years was a long time.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 26 February 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link


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