How was Liz Phair's 'Exile in Guyville' a "riposte" on the Rolling Stones' 'Exile on Main Street'?

I'm gonna have to agree with this. Most just seems like a cheap marketing gimmick where an unknown can ride into stardom on the coattails of an already famous artist. Kind of like how no-name rappers (like 50 cent and Canibus) went out of their way to make idiotic beefs with famous rappers so they could get noticed in the days when no one gave a shit.

me OTM
-- My name is Kenny (bogususe...), October 10th, 2004.

I just wanted to say that this is possibly the greatest succession of posts I've ever seen on this board.

If nothing else, reading all the lyrics from Exile on Main Street in one sitting with no musical accompaniment in the background makes me love it a little less. Sigh.

So this is what people thought about this album 9 years ago. Yikes.

I was just thinking that roughly the same amount of time has passed between the current day and the release of Spiderland as had passed between Exile on Main St and Exile in Guyville. 20 years and change.

Wait, did someone make a riposte of spiderland?

0 results found for guyderland,so we searched for sunderland. [Return to original search]

Spiderville?

Also not yet that I'm aware of, the idea just crossed my mind bc I saw the Slint movie and thought about the passage of time.

Reading the paired lyrics makes me like both albums more. It's like a weird journal of a relationship between some macho waster and his smarter girlfriend who will soon be outta there. I have to say it kind of works as disjoint communication.

this evolution is kinda sad -- this is about Guyville:

Phair has also stated that most songs on the album were not about her. She commented, "That stuff didn't happen to me, and that's what made writing it interesting. I wasn't connecting with my friends. I wasn't connecting with relationships. I was in love with people who couldn't care less about me. I was yearning to be part of a scene. I was in a posing kind of mode, yearning to have things happen for me that weren't happening. So I wanted to make it seem real and convincing. I wrote the whole album for a couple people to see and know me.

followed by this after the release of Whip Smart (and her somewhat petulant cancellation of the tour, acc to this which was linked through wikipedia http://web.archive.org/web/20091027155035/http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/8529/autobiography/whipsmart.htm)

Attention doesn't fill you up, it depletes you. That's usually at shows. You go afterward to sign some autographs and that's when I see that they're completely waiting for something, like little kids at a birthday party, 'Is there a clown? Is there a pony?' They want something. They want their own personal snippet to go home and remember. All these hungry mouths, all these gaping baby birds. Some people see me as a wounded soul and want to get that. Some people see me as the girl that scorned them in the schoolyard and they want me to be bitchy and bratty. Some people see me as a kind of hippie collegiate. Think of all the different perceptions of what the songs say and that's the variety you get coming back at you. This kind of attention just eats at you.