Is 'Man Needs a Maid' ridiculous?

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jack nitzsche had nothing to do with the song 'broken arrow.' That's a myth. In fact he hated the production of it.

ulysses s grant, Friday, 17 October 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link

See also: 'Unfaithful Servant' by the Band or 'Eureka' by Jim O'Rourke.

'Welfare Mothers', on 'Rust Never Sleeps', is a much more offensive NY track.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 17 October 2003 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

If Neil wanted the lyrics to drift by unnoticed, he could have given "A Man Needs A Maid" the same wisps-of-smoke-drifting-gently-up-from-a-crisp-pile-of-leaves arrangement that the preceding tracks share.

Instead, he used strings, horns, chimes, and whatnot to make damn sure that we all heard him say that he needs a maid to cook, clean, & leave. It's like he wanted the listener to hate the song.

I bet he still lets out an evil cackle or two when he thinks about all the buzzes this song has killed over the years.

Buffalo Mozarella, Friday, 17 October 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

what do you mean?

Jay Kid (Jay K), Friday, 17 October 2003 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

I like this song. There is something both absurd and sad about it.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

I mean: you're sitting around with your friends, having some drinks and sharing some laughs. You put on "Harvest," and everybody nods in approval as the first couple of tracks softly plink and plonk around the room like dusty rays of of cold autumn sunlight. "Ah," you think to yourself, "life is good."

The next thing you know, chimes and cellos are striking melodramatic poses, and Neil is loudly and repeatedly insisting that A MAN NEEDS A MAID. Then someone is sure to say that the lyrics are demeaning to women, and someone else will reply that they are actually wistful and touching, and a third person will say oh, give the poor guy a break, he was wearing a back brace when he wrote that. You and your friends aren't laughing anymore, but off in the distance, you can almost hear Neil chuckling.

He could have delivered those lyrics in a mellow fashion, and nobody would have given them a second thought. Instead, he brought an entire orchestra in to poop on your party. Good one, Neil...

Buffalo Mozzarella, Friday, 17 October 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

most of these same people also hate his production of "You Can't Always Get What You Want." Even OTT (which he almost always was) Nitzsche is so OTM, but then again, I even enjoy his 'classical' record, sick fan that I am. I like that NY gets swallowed up by the whole thing.

Beta, Friday, 17 October 2003 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, what does "OTT" mean?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 17 October 2003 18:38 (twenty years ago) link

"Over The Top" - stringwise production in this case I think, not the arm-wrasslin' movie.

BrianB, Friday, 17 October 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

and not that lovable pfork scamp Chris Ott either.

Beta, Friday, 17 October 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

"You Can't Always Get What You Want" is a big, dramatic song to begin with (lecture us on some harsh, universal truths, Mick! And give us a big campy wink while you're at it!), so the choirs & french horns suit it just fine.

"A Man Needs A Maid," on the other hand, is a sad little song, so the epic strings seem out of place.

The song= a guy looking around his grubby apartment, and wishing a woman was there to pick up all his crusty socks and empty bottles.

The production=an armored viking looking over some great vista while eagles circle overhead.

Buffalo Mozzarella, Friday, 17 October 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

but see, the song reveals that the grubby little man's emotions hit him as profoundly as a great vista would affect a viking!! Bruce Springsteen and Phil Spector based their whole lives around this!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 October 2003 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

I listened to this today on a cassette on a bus and wondered what the fuck most of you were going on about.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 18 October 2003 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

1) Extreme, dogmatic, more-feminist-than-thou kind of stalinistic 1970ies politically correct hags gone sour & stale.

This is exactly the kind of 'look' I'm going for ... I think it sounds kind of deadpan, flat, sorrowful and beautiful. Maybe I could be the feminazi you need.

""A Man Needs A Maid," on the other hand, is a sad little song, so the epic strings seem out of place."

I think this is true - the strings on this song are funny. It's partly because the strings are so rich and his voice is so thin and cracking too.


m.s (m .s), Saturday, 18 October 2003 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

my (feminist) reading of this song always read it as much more of an indictment of man rather than woman. Neil has failed as a man in an epic way because he has failed to make the most basic connection a human can make. He can't stop trying, though, but he knows that these conclusions about women devalue his humanity.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:20 (twenty years ago) link

great f'n song; JBR and teeny otm.

'Welfare Mothers', on 'Rust Never Sleeps', is a much more offensive NY track.

??!!!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

I can remember a time when I was too bummed out to pick up my dirty clothes, and it really did seem like I was living in an epic tragedy.

At least, it seemed that way to me. To my friends, it just seemed like I was living in a disgusting apartment.

They were nice enough to keep coming over, though, and some nights, after having a few drinks, I'd start to describe my dark emotional vistas. My friends never shared my fascination with this topic, however. "Quit bitching and start cleaning," was their advice.

In retrospect, they were 100% correct, and I'm damn glad that I never used a bombastic string section to try to convince them otherwise.

Buffalo Mozzarella, Monday, 20 October 2003 19:49 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
this song is neil's way of saying, "bitch, wash my clothes!"

it deserves an r&b cover -- by r kelly?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 3 October 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
A friend of mine made me watch a Neil Young special on a 1972 Old Grey Whistle Test last week. NY was like a cute version of Robbie Williams, with his non-smug smirking. He had some nice banter about stereophonic BBC paper cups. Then he hammered out 'A Man Needs A Maid'. It was great.

When will I see you again?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

is speculation as to whether the dude should get a maid really worth the corny, overdone instrumentation

Charlie Howard, Friday, 30 November 2007 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"listening to neil young sing about women is like watching a cop eating donuts."

haha! Yes, exactly.

adamrl needs a maid

admrl, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

but it does sound like he just wants some chick who'll clean up his shit. it's kinda amazing that he thought he could get away with that in 1972 (the height of bra-burning feminism, ya know).

There is such a thing as singing as a character, ya know.

ichard Thompson (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

the most basic connection a human can make

More basic: I just shook hands with a homeless-/street-paper vendor.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Doped-up makes it hard to get things done around the house.

Eazy, Thursday, 1 January 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought that maybe I would get a made = I'll stop where I can, get some fried eggs and country ham

Eazy, Thursday, 1 January 2009 00:22 (fifteen years ago) link


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