Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

http://www.digitalspy.com.au/british-tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a477531/doctor-who-brian-minchin-to-be-new-executive-producer.html

More spoilers.

I have a bad feeling about this...the xmas rumor is probably true.

tbh I am fine with the Omega idea

unless of course it ends up that Omega is (Xmas rumor) in which case I may have to hunt and sleigh

Oh, I'm not saying that that's a bad idea but it makes his other claims (like the xmas special) seem a bit more credible.

I know that the Daleks are the original Who monster but I've always felt like Omega is the ultimate Who boogeyman thanks to him being the bad guy in The Three Doctors

I also love the pattern of Gallifrey's greatest heroes turning into monsters that threaten the cosmos, because what does that mean for the Doctor?

Xmas rumour sounds like terrific fun, I am also mega-down with Feast Of Steven

can we avoid being so open about rumours in case they turn out to be real spoilers though

(or "rumours" since they're just one blatantly attention-seeking bloke on a blog, not accreted murmurs)

That blog post reads as hysterically overdramatic comedy butthurt to me but this is Doctor Who I suppose.

Agreed, the Xmas rumour strikes me as a fun idea actually.

I imagine many, or even most, shows have similar background stories.

I'm sorry Chuck, now we have to kill you

no hard feelings?

That blog post reads as hysterically overdramatic comedy butthurt to me but this is Doctor Who I suppose.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2013 01:04 (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

instantly thought of ian levine when i read this

I made it through Happiness Patrol, you can't hurt me anymore

Oh god how did I miss the that when I was listing stupid things that happened in Doctor Who

Fucking Delta and the Bannermen too, ffs

watching Happiness Patrol tonight, RIP Helen A

!!!

okay lol

actually you know what was a super underrated 7th Doctor story that gets lumped in with the terrible ones but has a fantastically creepy kernel and is surprisingly enjoyable, is Paradise Towers

I have a hell of a lot of affection for that story, particularly as it came on telly when I was nine. The cleaner robots really shat me up at the time (think we've been through this before).

I watched it again a few years ago, and while it's not in the least bit scary anymore it's good campy fun.

It's probably been a good 10 years (or more!) since I last saw it but I remember being amazed that there was a good story there fighting to break through a terrible, terrible production

I feel like their enjoyable creepiness probably owes more to their poor production values than any kind of artistic choice (see also: all Carry On movies), but still, you take what you can.

the only part of PT that doesn't really make any sense no matter how you spin it is Mel's "I don't care if this whole place is a series of deathtraps, my ass is going swimming" determination

Mel is a complete moron, I don't expect her character to make any sense.

It's probably been a good 10 years (or more!) since I last saw it but I remember being amazed that there was a good story there fighting to break through a terrible, terrible production

this is the case of every Cartmel story* bar Remembrance, which still has to deal with all-video and Keff McCulloch

so with that said, Happiness Patrol is amazing and kid-me was a fool to hate the Kandyman


*nb: Time And The Rani and Silver Nemesis were JNT commissions

ha ha, the comments at Wife In Space are full of people who also hated it as kids loving it on rewatch 26 years later

Would've been a very average episode in the Tennant era, but now its straightforwardness was rather refreshing. I liked the sepia sequence.

Diana Rigg was great. The death of Mr Sweet reminded me of Eraserhead.

Really enjoyed that quite a lot. Diana Rigg's character reminded me go Harrison Chase, for reasons unclear.

that whistleblower blog has been taken down fwiw

against my judgement we're sort of perfunctorily watching this, probably because we feel compelled to stick with television even when it loses us

so far the following tropes that we're sick of have occurred:

- people doing something obviously alienish that makes it clear they're aliens even though we're supposed to be intrigued (this week the salt down the blouse thing)
- aliens talking to other aliens
- the doctor bursting in in full bumbling clown mode (which his only mode)

when the doctor emerges bright red and like dying or whatever, we're supposed to be concerned/worried/saddened/whatever (and we would be if it were ecclestone or tennant), but because this doctor has only one mode (bumbling clown) we both just fully expected him to do a lol stumble down the hall or something

also, fuck strax

Harsh AA. That was an enjoyable episode.

* eccleston

also, before sic comes in and schools me about the history of doctor who, the specific problem i have with aliens talking to other aliens is that it's a reduced experience for the viewer watching two beings with inflexible prosthetic heads (strax and that lizard woman thing who i don't care what she is because i'm just annoyed now) share a scene when basically everything they can deliver has to happen through speech or smiles alone (and tbh this is a further example of my criticism of this year's scripts being so *verbal*), and so you're left with basically deep space nine type scenes

xp we're now two thirds through and we're both bored out of our minds

i mean there are clearly some great ideas in this episode, but it's all executed with the usual lack of light/shade in the production and scripts full of *words* and one-dimensional doctor (now 100% predictably) anger-bumbling his way to saving the universe

and of course the score telling us exactly what to feel at any given moment

see, right now the doctor's 7/8 theme is going so obv he has won

i also hate daft punk and comedy

old woman falls to her death, doctor pulls comedy face, says 'ouch'

i just

next week: base under siege again

fucking hell

we're supposed to care about who clara ~is~ but she's been in the show for like five minutes and doesn't even do anything half the time (and there's not even any doctor/companion chemistry to help that along)

if clara fell down a mine and died forever i would probably pull a comedy doctor comedy face and say 'ouch'

The lizard woman is a Silurian and therefore a native of Earth, not an alien, and directly tied to the history of the show going back to 1970.

okay, the prosthetic is where i was going

let's say 'not human', if that works

deep space nine is awesome fyi

the phantom menace would have been a better analogy except they manage to convey bugger-all emotion without prosthetic interference

The lizard woman is a Silurian and therefore a native of Earth, not an alien, and directly tied to the history of the show going back to 1970.

None of this actually makes a difference really.

lol of course it doesn't, don't you recognize sad old fan flexing when you see it?