Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

That subplot - older brother convinces younger brother he's a robot - thought was brilliantly done. The atmosphere.

Information stored as liquids in the library I liked too.

can't do this any more

made it 18 mins in, wanted to do anything else (just like nearly every other episode this year)

nothing against this show, i just can't face this again for a while

The only thing I've not liked in Moffat land is the lack of backstory with companions, because there's a lack of balance with the other lead, who is made of backstory. Well, besides never using a woman screenwriter while littering the show with female characters who write.

Anyway. Seen this?

http://verse.aasemoon.com/images/1/18/Mary_Poppins_TimeLord.jpg

she arrives with the hat, I don't remember bow tie from the books at all?, or scarf being a regular thing?, umbrella I guess is a dece joke but would be better to draw McCoy comparisons than Eccleston


liked this week's I think, certainly enormously more than The Blind Orientalist or Curse Of The Black Shit

This was so far and away the best episode of 2013 it was ridiculous. I liked how much fun they were clearly having with the endless possibilities inside the Tardis itself. It's taken nu-Who a surprisingly long time to get round to this.

The Clara storyline is actually starting to get interesting as well, and the zombie Claras would have proper fucking creepy to kids as well.

I'm sure this show, and/or Red Dwarf, have done that leaking time bit before? Coming across their recent past selves?

Overall this is, I think, the weakest year of nu-Who yet, if you overlook the last few Tennant specials. The Rusty years would give you some absolute cringeworthy clunkers but there was a lot of fun in there as well and there would always be a few fantastic episodes per year as well.

There's been very little that's been awful in this series, with the exception of the one with all the singing, but very little that's gone above average, and the sense of fun doesn't really seem to be there in the same way. It's possible that Moffatt's just running out of ideas.

The season's suffering from the decision not to include any two-parters as well. Also Moffatt's innate sense of sympathy and aversion to killing people off properly (which had kind of been evident from The Empty Child onwards). I'm sick of all the aliens being lonely/lost/scared and running riot. I want some proper evil monsters that want to destroy everyone, and must be destroyed in return.

Next week's looks good though.

I didnt mind this one. But the Cult's Fire Woman. I mean really. ....heyyyyy oh but was it a joke on zombie charred Clara? ugh that's even worse if it was.

glad they finally addressed a little bit of Clara's wtfness

Fire Woman made me lol, so there's that.

I've worked it out - this was the best episode since Amy's Choice in 2010.

Really liked this one but can't help thinking that old who could have spent an entire series lost inside the bowels of the Tardis. I'm loving how terrified Clara got and how she is the first nu-Who companion to be fundamentally not trusting of the Doctor.

Despite it's flaws I am liking how this season has, in the main, steered clear of contemporary Britain

Amy didn't really trust the Doctor at the start either.

was I the only one who figured Clara was being chased by herself almost right away or was that reveal shocking to no one?

it took me until he said something about cracks in space-time and time echos or the like, about halfway through the episode.

the characterization of the salvagers felt a bit off to me, but all the other bits were awesome. curious how many bits of the tardis interior would be more significant to ppl familiar with the pre-revive tv series.

found some bits about various refs here: http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/04/27/doctor-who-7-10-journey-to-the-centre-of-the-tardis-review/

Do you think any of this is true or is it all outlandish rumors?

If Moffat was really that bad wouldn't the BBC just get rid of him? I would think Doctor Who makes them too much money now to put up with with a lot of guff from the showrunner.

Moff is holding the BBC to ransom over Sherlock, I think ... so they're stuck placating him for now.

I would love to know what went on with the negotiations/non-negotiations with other Who actors for the 50th.

If these issues cannot be rectified - and soon - Doctor Who may go into a semi-permanent hiatus, and return as a series of TV Movies or extended episodes once every eighteen months.

Eh, probably not a bad thing for a few years.

I went to the originating blog and read some of the dumbest spoilers (if they are true) I've ever seen (upcoming Christmas episode will be the worst one yet if that rumor is true)

I have no actual window into how Moffatt runs a show but I feel like he was a tyrant with Coupling as well?

(upcoming Christmas episode will be the worst one yet if that rumor is true)

If that's true that would be so incredibly stupid I would be forced to give up the show, kind of like I did when Lost aired the episode with Jack and Bai Ling.

Can't find the xmas rumour on that blog, only stuff about the 50th anniversary and the season finale.

it's a bullet point in the post titled "Clarity"

I refuse to retype it because that might make it come true

oh god

nooooooooo

it is the single worst idea I have ever seen in Doctor Who, and this is a series that:

- had a bad guy die by karate-kicking a giant walking electric eel (Warriors of the Deep)
- ended an episode with a literal "cliffhanger" (Dragonfire)
- had the Doctor break the fourth wall to wish the viewers "Merry Christmas" (The Chase)
- wrote a gratuitous gay sex scene into the middle of a stakeout so that the book's coda could declare a cure for HIV/AIDS (Damaged Goods)
- allowed Fear Her and The Idiot Lantern to be shown on television

Ha, oh shit, that will be rubbish!

had a bad guy die by karate-kicking a giant walking electric eel (Warriors of the Deep)

Now I want to see Warriors of the Deep because that sounds hilarious. I've managed to watch a lot of the old series on Netflix but I'm still a ways away from watching them all.

oh man, I left out "built an entire episode around the shocking idea that a machine designed to pull people apart might kill someone (The Leisure Hive)" and "Tried to pass Nicola Bryant off as an actual American"

xp: I actually love "Warriors of the Deep" and that entire final Davison season because it just piles bleakness on top of bleakness on top of bleakness, but that specific scene could have been handled differently

Unfortunately it rings all too true with things I've also heard.

I guessed some considerable time ago one of the series cliffhanger plots involving a companion (and, I think said so here).

The John Hurt thing seems more than credible.

'merry Christmas' isn't from The Chase, it's from The Feast of Steven during Dale Master Plan.

You also appear to be missing that Rusty's big plan for the (thankfully unmade) "best ever" Christmas special was to crossover with a reunited Star Trek TNG cast but the Americans thought he was a prick. (This is in his book about how he was the best thing ever to happen to Doctor Who.)

oh dammmit you're right re: Dalek Master Plan

x-mas spoiler: SO dumb that it just might work????

let me think about that

...

... nope

also I never heard about that TNG crossover, or if I did I completely blocked it from my memory because it was just. so. stupid

He devotes something like 20 pages to it in The Wanker's Tale and about how much of a genius it makes him. HOOT!

the more I realized that Rose was RTD's mary sue, the more I started hating the character

x-mas spoiler: SO dumb that it just might work????

http://media.tumblr.com/df8543798f07aacbfa189b9d093f41c4/tumblr_inline_mlkmb0LXWl1qz4rgp.gif

okay Nicole that is incredible

I can't help thinking of New X-Men.

If anyone wants an EARLY piece of evidence I am genuine, I could give you all spoilers from ANY up coming BBC programme... Just pick one!

It's one thing to say 'Cardiff we have a problem' and it's another to beg to be blacklisted

it's a bullet point in the post titled "Clarity"

I refuse to retype it because that might make it come true

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oh fuck no

brace yerselves

geronimHO HO HO

re this lot of rumours: this is the sort of thing that might come out of a production that was failing, but the fact that it's still hugely successful (critically and viewerly) means this sort of thing would normally be tolerated.

the best parallel i can think of is in australian politics, where our last pm was so reviled by his own party for being tyrannical and ruthless that he was rejected by his own party, and then subsequently fought off like six times by a government which is actively falling to pieces. assuming at this point that moffat really is so horrible to work with that the production would rather just not be making the show at all.

as aldo said, this isn't coming from nowhere either. rumours touching on this have been floating around for ages.

xp noooooooooooooooo

btw 'series 8 intentions' reads a lot like 'series 27 intentions'

- metatraxi
- safe-cracking companion
- lungbarrow

http://www.digitalspy.com.au/british-tv/s7/doctor-who/news/a477531/doctor-who-brian-minchin-to-be-new-executive-producer.html

More spoilers.

I have a bad feeling about this...the xmas rumor is probably true.

tbh I am fine with the Omega idea

unless of course it ends up that Omega is (Xmas rumor) in which case I may have to hunt and sleigh

Oh, I'm not saying that that's a bad idea but it makes his other claims (like the xmas special) seem a bit more credible.

I know that the Daleks are the original Who monster but I've always felt like Omega is the ultimate Who boogeyman thanks to him being the bad guy in The Three Doctors

I also love the pattern of Gallifrey's greatest heroes turning into monsters that threaten the cosmos, because what does that mean for the Doctor?