Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

well sanpaku is a super-rational-bordering-on-savantism dude so i wouldn't really have expected better

* shrugs *

The idea of exclusive ownership of cultural symbols is kinda offensive too

white privilege in a nutshell innit

Look, we've had 10s of 1000s of generations of tribal warfare based in part on cultural identifiers like this. I just think the sooner we drop the idea that these things are exclusively owned and building fences between tribes the better off we'll all be.

The white guy with dreads isn't mocking or stealing from the rasta, he's just paying homage and looking a bit silly.

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Grimes is, except for maybe Pynchon, probably the single public figure of some note that I most wished posted on here

Um, 'wished' shouldn't be past tense

i'm not sure what's so amazing about her latest tumblr post? i mean i understand and sympathize with what she's saying, it just doesn't sound particularly remarkable to mr

to me, i meant

mr. the late great

Yeah I think it's slightly sad that they're seen as revolutionary and SO amazing etc - it should be obvious and taken for granted! - but she's right and unfortunately in our present cultural moment it needs to be said

I also read the word "molested" here as meaning specifically inappropriate physical contact.

― Moodles, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 14:14

https://twitter.com/Grimezsz/status/326888946023923712

so it's because she's famous? feel like my female friends (musicians and non-musicians) have all expressed similar sentiments, usually w better grammar and punctuation.

maybe i should drop this line of inquiry, i'm going to sound like i'm hating on grimes when really i don't mind her at all

i guess as lex says these things need to be said by more famous people so no reason to look too deeply into why this particular blog post resonated

there you go

Yep. Her message stands out because her message reaches eat more people than your musician and non-musician friends, and because most well-known musicians have nothing useful to say

true dat

okay someone needs to stop her before her messages eat more poor unsuspecting people

yeah her being famous plays a part, this is obvious, we really don't need to "look deeply" into why people are linking to this instead of tlg's mates

I think we all need to "look deeply" at each other on this thread.

*looks*

grammar and punctuation just don't have the cache they used to xp

yeah I dont know what ahppened

clicked on thread thinking 'this is ilx, not all 50 new posts will be high fiving over how badass that tumblr post was' but is it e'en so ilx is it e'en so

It was a badass tumblr post hoos.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cpq1vecn1rttrtuo1_400.gif

<3 tina, <3 grimes, <3 magic high 5

it's a good day to be alive

Can we go back to the bindi thing for a second?

Does no one else think it's semi-problematic that she is not allowed to wear something that has morphed into something of a fashion statement even though she grew up in a household with family members from the originating culture? Like, shouldn't the connections in her own family to the culture surrounding bindis trump anonymous people getting huffy on the Internet?

I mean, I am not criticizing her desire not to offend anyone but this seems like something where the people getting mad should maybe find out something about her first?

yeah that's kinda how I feel too but it's a very gray area to be sure

Our mutaween has extensive training in taking offence, and knowing which cultural appropriations, and which directions of cultural appropriation, are appropriate.

oh fuck off

Sort of seems like she's getting more and more famous, now she's a target for the .001% of people that would genuinely get upset at this, and the .001% of people that fake being upset at it for pageviews.

adam i'm glad you're tireless at ferretting out people's true intentions on the internet, we need more people like you, keep tumblr honest gj

"and from then on, 4/25 became celebrated as 'Dayo Go Ham Day'"

Pretty much in every cultural context: culinary, music, clothing, language, etc. cultural cross-fertilization is IMO a very good thing. Our lives are enriched by it. Part of post-colonialism is seeing memes (Dawkin sense) from former colonies return and conquer the former colonial powers.

The bindi isn't just a religious symbol, its also a philosophical one, and also just plain decorative, and has been appropriated through a span of territories from Persia through Tibet and onto Korea, in places divorced from original context in the subcontinent.

As far as I'm concerned, poor Grimes was beset by some trust-fund cultural studies majors. And in like fashion, bit by bit, our lives become less rich.

乒乓 is doing the people's work

also, Grimes is in MTL afaik and there is a lot of reasonable historical baggage about cultural repression and appropriation in the culture there by nature

Grimes could have helped heal those wounds.

wow i feel like i have my first ilx troll im so honored

DJP otm

If you want to fight the 'cultural appropriation' fight, I don't mind. However, I don't think Grimes is the most revelant target.

no one wants to fight that, literally no one

yeah that's kinda how I feel too but it's a very gray area to be sure

― 乒乓,

^ just can't see past colour imo

the only colour i see is green

how many shades

50, bad boy ;)

you guys are micrometers away from horrible Kermit/Ms Piggy S&M pr0n; tread lightly

everyone please apologize for your posts

the true villain btw is gwen stefani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjxtq6JhWHo

my refs are clear, as is my conscience