Jimmy Saville is still alive...

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I have always heard he was a BNP voter and a uber-racist on the quiet, so nice guy image already a bit suspect. Always preferred Tony Hart fwiw.

Jason Dowd, Friday, 19 April 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

Back in the day his nightclub act was a bit racist. A few jokes about Jews and black men etc. More or less typical of a lot of comics at the time perhaps. There's some of that on his "Jake The Peg Live In Vancouver Town" album. Kinda ruins it these days.

everything, Friday, 19 April 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

Can you tell what it is yet? That's right, it's a pedo.

Will you see a political publicity stunt? (snoball), Friday, 19 April 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

Tony Hart was all about encouragement, fun and enthusiasm and he had morph! Rolf was more your bog standard pervy art school tutor with a thing for girls rather than women.

Jason Dowd, Friday, 19 April 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i'm kind of amazed by people saying that they were surprised and that he seemed like a good guy. i always found him creepy as a child and hated his stupid breathing-singing schtick and his terrible paintings. a horrible childhood TV presence.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Friday, 19 April 2013 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

Breaking news - Max Clifford charged with 11 counts of indecent assault.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link

I find this news even more horrible as he's made a career from manipulating influencing and creating positive PR for questionable celebrity behaviour. I wonder what kind of nastiness he's covered up over the years?

we're up all night to get an eeg (captain rosie), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

Also: wonder what his daughter, who is disabled and who was always flagged up by daddy to show how human he was whenever he did self-publicity, thinks of him right now.

karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 26 April 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

I wonder what kind of nastiness he's covered up over the years?

All of it.

not_goodwin, Friday, 26 April 2013 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Eugh, the grim dark parts of life are really um, grim and dark.

we're up all night to get an eeg (captain rosie), Friday, 26 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

The beast hiding behind a disabled child. I am a sucker for that one and remember thinking 'well it's a shitty business, but he has been through the wringer with his kid'. When you have been through shit yourself you assume other people in the same situation are good people. Just shows what a hideous, exploitative type of cunt he is.xxp

Jason Dowd, Friday, 26 April 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

William Roache arrested as well now, according to reports.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

“Everything that happens to us has been a result of what we have been in previous lives or whatever,” he said.

And when asked if he was saying victims were to blame, he added: “No, not quite ... and yet I am.”

Thanks for clearing that up, Bill.

хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

Roache rumbled

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

... excellent, no-one will use that as a headline tho, more's the pity

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

So, has he been arrested for sins from a previous life?

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

Just wondering which of our current crop of celebs will be arrested for similar offences... 30 years from now

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:57 (eleven years ago) link

Not thaat nice Russell Brand though, ooh no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

Russell Brand was abused as a child.

you say potatooles (onimo), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 10:02 (eleven years ago) link

The Times claims Barlow "has played Ken Barlow in the TV soap since its very first episode in 1060" so maybe he's not kidding about the past lives.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

Barlow has played Barlow?

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

Tonight on Corrie - Ken Barlow takes a mysterious holiday to visit Kevin Webster who is also on a mysterious holiday

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

Don't forget Andrew Lancel/Frank Foster, who has achieved the rare double of being an on-screen rapist while being accused of child sex offences in real life.

(Also, the first celebrity paedo scandal I can remember was Peter Adamson/Len Fairclough from Corrie.)

Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

Andrew Lancel's out of Corrie anyway, but aye, if they've ditched Michael Le Vell, Roache has to go as well.

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:43 (eleven years ago) link

Adamson was found not guilty, something we could maybe presume about some others here until there's been an actual trial.

you say potatooles (onimo), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

Not sure about anyone else, but I'm just speculating on the application and continuity of Corrie's possible policy, which was to put Michael Le Vell on gardening leave (all scenes cut from when he was charged, and he's just been "written out" indefinitely this week) until after his trial and assuming they'll have to do the same for Roache.

(skimming upthread, yes, there seems to be a assumption about Clifford more so than anyone else)

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, people using his disabled daughter as a stick to hit him with kind of lacks class y'know? Especially when accusing him of using her to humanise himself. I think he's a manipulative prick who's cashed in on other people's misery for decades and if the allegations are true he should get what's coming but it's too easy to presume the guilt of celebs just because we don't like them.

you say potatooles (onimo), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

for real

wasn't Tory cunt Roache v. outspoken about this awful celebrity witch-hunt a couple of months ago?

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

He did some Glenn-Hoddlesque interview a few weeks ago about victims having been punished for previous lives, also saying, iirc, that you shouldn't always blame men who slept with underage girls because temptation etc.

xpost

ailsa, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link

He's had a string of crazy wackjob interviews. Talking to his dog, blaming people for past lives etc, saying he has slept with thousands of women. It's like he's been building up to this.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 12:41 (eleven years ago) link

xpost ha yeah he's gone a bit ott on disproving that 1991 'boring' claim

NI, Thursday, 2 May 2013 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Christ Stuart Hall

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 2 May 2013 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

I guess that admitting it is the right thing to do in regard to his victims so it's good that he's done that at least, but yes, fucking hell.

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 2 May 2013 09:57 (eleven years ago) link

Seriously, fucking hell.

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:07 (eleven years ago) link

More likely he admitted it because he knew the case against him was strong, rather than because it's "the right thing to do", whatever that means in these circumstances.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

Dunno (obv), but this seems like a quick and easy for all concerned.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

well, not if they put this sick fuck in jail for the rest of his natural

we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

This might be seen as a 'not much, moving on' by the public at large, particularly as the William Roache case is breaking bigger.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2013 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

well, not if they put this sick fuck in jail for the rest of his natural

Doubt it, with regard to what's been confessed to so far.

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2013 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

More likely he admitted it because he knew the case against him was strong

Yeah, I am leaning towards that interpretation after reading about this thing a bit more. What is all this horseshit about him now wanting to 'regain his honour and reputation'? How deluded are these people?

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 2 May 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link

Does anybody remember this..

Paul D-notalot used to have this 'joke' when if he got a young woman out of the audience to 'help'..

He'd point at his cheek and say 'kiss?', and when they did, he'd turn his head at the very last send and cop it on the lips.

How we all laffed....

Mark G, Thursday, 2 May 2013 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

The defence seemed to be comprised entirely of "ah you can't charge him for these things that happened like half a century ago just cos times have changed now! Back then it was fine and the families didn't mind save for keeping their kids away from him in the future, so what's the big deal? It was just a series of one-off things that happened 14 times spanning 20 years. To clarify, each time something happened it was definitely a one-off."

not lazy but clowning (Suedey 2), Thursday, 2 May 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

I know this is hardly the most important aspect of all this shit which is coming out, but at this rate it'll be nigh on impossible to have any kind of jolly nostalgic 'weren't the 70s great?' programme as just about everything from that era is becoming tainted.

The Horse Rustler and the Rustler's Horse (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link

otm, we're currently watching a celebrity edition of pointless and i can't help wondering which contestants will end up in custody

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:26 (eleven years ago) link

who is there to choose from?

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 2 May 2013 12:36 (eleven years ago) link


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