RFD: Light-hearted, whimsical indie hipster music that seemed specifically manufactured for Apple commercials

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the tech companies, especially apple and google, have to work extra-hard to counteract the impression that they are evil empires.

authentically inauthentic (Pat Finn), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

yes this def. seems to be a watershed moment for other tech. companies FINALLY working out that twee sells

tpp, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music_used_by_Apple_Inc.

so it basically started around 2007 w/ Feist/Imogen Heap/The Bird and the Bee/Yael Naïm? it seems like earlier Apple ads were heavier on classic rock/pop and obvious Top 40 picks (also more black people!)

first geir, it's alright (hongro hongro go faster faster) (unregistered), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

God that Lenka song adheres so strictly to the blueprint it's freaky. That's the sound of money alright.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

Feist seems pretty crucial here as a jumping-off point for these other acts, could be wrong about that but I suspect a lot of people who weren't paying attention to baby-voice twee indie before that went "oh wait, there's money in this."

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

(I really like "Mushaboom" for the record)

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EUYTGBpBms

jaymc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

I was at a really hip bar that had like five songs by The Bird and the Bee on their playlist and the whole thing felt like a 2 hour ad for the bright orange iPod nano

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

Few years ago an indieish mate of mine told me how someone she knew who worked in advertising called her up & asked her to recommend some twee music to use in ads

ok let's all fuck our pants to something new (wins), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

idk this music at all but i have become aware of this inadvertent subgenre

it all sounds a bit like how i remember vampire weekend sounding (nb i probably listened to one song of theirs three years ago)? that sort of pellucid chimy indie, purged of all distortion or irregularity with extensive protooling

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

is this just the generic sound of "indie" becoming mainstream? Is there "mainstream indie" that doesn't have this irritating feel?

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

2010/06 WWDC Intra-session 6/7/09 7:50pm, 2011/06 WWDC Intra-session 6/6/11 1:52 p.m., 6/7/11 9:50 a.m., 4:03 p.m.

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

that wiki page is mortifying

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

That frigging Lenka song was used in Moneyball where they tried to pass it off as if it was an original written by Brad Pitt's daughter. It was the most surreal thing.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, Windows does this shit now, too. Ladies and gentlemen, Kishi Bashi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBmtde_XNBs

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

chime-y major arpeggios

shit tie (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

fuck a glockenspiel

LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

And it permeates out into all related culture. Adventure Time, I'm looking at you.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link

glockenspiel
ukelele
mandolin
poorly mic'd piano

what other instruments am I missing here

LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

brb checking magnetic fields album credits

"LOL is other people" - Jean-Paul Snarktre (wins), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

tambourine?

LADIES ONLY PHYCHIC NIGHT (crüt), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

handclaps

shit tie (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

Hate this stuff. Sounds like it was made for very small children.

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

idk cat power v well but the music is definitely not twee! The name, sure.

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

or light-hearted. I mean, lol.

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

What are the defining characteristics?

"La, la, la, la (21x)"

New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

Worst offender:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw20ssNMQlU

lazulum, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

the thing is i love handclaps, tambourines, glockenspiels, poorly mic'd pianos, and toy instruments, but this context makes them terrible. i've had to check myself when recording at times because it was "too Apple commercial" or "too This American Life interlude-y".

shit tie (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

I think that Prius commercial is perfect; it's a car for condescending turds with bad taste.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

I was looking for that Prius one. Was seeing it in EVERY BREAK on Hulu and was about to kill someone.

ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

this whole thing is out of control, there needs to be a massive massive rivethead revival to restore some balance.

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

juno

slugbuggy, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ yes! There was a bunch of discussion of this trend in the Pomplamoose thread, and I blame Juno/Kimya Dawson for much of it.

New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

A friend whose musical tastes I almost always agree with burned me a Kimya CD once, and I was like... um... thanks?

New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 16 April 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

this one drives me nuts, a peppy update of the Mr Rogers theme for Target's entry to Canada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jb22vkh9g4

brio, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

it seems like an entire genre based on Melanie's "Brand New Key" and low-rent Zooey Deschanels.

brio, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

Rent-a-Deschanels.

brio, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

someone mentioned that this stuff sounds like it was made for small kids. I think there's something there. Something about marketing the guilelessness of youth's innocence, naivete, and authenticity to, ironically, a world of cynicism and commercialization.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

It's also marketing a kind of androgyny, a state of innocence which cuts across gender codes.

lazulum, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

weird, I have some random ass person from a marketing firm following my Spotify library. I hope we'll start getting some commercials featuring Chrome

Spectrum, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

oh that was a million xposts away

Spectrum, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

Does anyone have any idea who pioneered this genre? Someone said Kimya Dawson, but I would have thought that was too late. Is there anything like this from the 80s or 90s?

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

ime people who are into this also really like ~4 Velvet Underground songs.

supermassive pot hole (seandalai), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

I really like ~4 Velvet Underground songs

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

the thing is i love handclaps, tambourines, glockenspiels, poorly mic'd pianos, and toy instruments, but this context makes them terrible.

me too, though curiously the Apple ad archetype is so dominant that I can't even remember which bands that sound like this it was that I used to like? It's like tech ad themes have violently overwritten everything in the "handclaps, tambourines, glockenspiels, poorly mic'd pianos, and toy instruments" section of my brain.

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

Poor Frente, twenty years too soon for $$$

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

There was a bunch of discussion on the Pomplamoose thread about the progenitors this faux-naif-baby-voice-lalala thing, and Mo Tucker was one of the names thrown out there. I'm not sure I buy that.

Given that wiki list of Apple music upthread, and considering the release of Juno, Feist's The Reminder and the She and Him debut (all 2007/2008,) the floodgates really opened right around then imo.

New Authentic Everybootsy Collins (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:14 (eleven years ago) link

Australia has been big on this before the rest of the world I think, though maybe in tandem with the UK.

Our statutory body for traffic accident compensation was using a twee girl cover of "Pictures of You" to discourage speeding for a while, not the first example but it felt like the most complete.

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

Mobile phone network ads in the UK have been the worst offenders for this some years ago, not sure if it's quite the same as this but more strummy, twee, 'I'm having a lovely day' type rainbows-and-ribbons bullshit. I think that progressed into the more handclappy DIY instruments from there.

kinder, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

I seem to recall that Motown had the same advert omnipresence in the early to mid nineties?

Tim F, Wednesday, 17 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

My mom has started playing ukelele but only cause the leader of the hula group she's in has asked her to.

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 April 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

the uke isn't a bad thing, neither is the glockenspiel, you can play great ukelele (I like Jake Shimabukuro a lot, ymmv but that breeze 70s instrumental AOR feel lives on in him imo and I dig that sound) and you can do all kinds of cool things with a glockenspiel. It sucks that you sort of have to take extra pains to make sure your context doesn't read as a One Of Those Bands deal but not super-hard I don't think.

not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

as an aesthetic move, some sort of engagement with notion/symbols of childhood and adolescence can be v. productive. i'll rep for sara records or kindercore and certainly beat happening all day. (and darla records stuff like flowchart too! and helium!)

i mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3XCgb8vsE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmlG9BZKPyk

but the stuff on this thread is obv doing something very different than any of that was. and its not just "not drowning the melody in noise". its not the regressiveness but the lack of friction or movement maybe that gets to me. i'm sure there's a better way to articulate it.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

what if hockey night in canada asked to use a song

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

maybe its music about not needing music, or not needing to make music.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Sunday, 21 April 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

so maybe it's just bobo music

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobos_in_Paradise

anonanon, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:43 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2-S96FcFbk

乒乓, Monday, 6 May 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link

Light-hearted, whimsical indie hipster music icons that seem specifically manufactured for cell phone commercials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjZ0rXSXeBA

scott seward, Monday, 6 May 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVERz5D1YEU

乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

the lower level of this trend is even worse - like instead of big brands getting an actual song - loads of little shitty mortgage ads with a crappy ukelele soundtrack.

Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

that iphone marimba clip is a great find, pretty neatly summing up this entire thread

anonanon, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

Light-hearted, whimsical indie hipster music icons that seem specifically manufactured for cell phone commercials

that IS actually Wayne Coyne, isn't it...?

That clip sounds so much like Penguin Cafe Orchestra that it's uncomfortable. The problem is, I LIKE Penguin Cafe Orchestra, and this may be some roundabout homage to their song "Telephone and Rubber Band", which built around a phone busy signal. Nevertheless, I am sickened by these obnoxious hipster fucks!

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

that marimba clip is p. good and kiz seem to be working in a totally difft tradition than we're talking about here, although perhaps also suitable for tech ads (but not seemingly _manufactured_ for them!).

their youtube channel and website have any number of really enjoyable tracks.

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link

(website being this: http://www.kizmusique.com/)

stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 9 May 2013 05:27 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the new ryan hemsworth ep is great but i keep thinking of this thread. apple-trap.

https://soundcloud.com/ryanhemsworth/sets/a

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 23 May 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

I can't really get into that dude. A year back or so I was thinking often that trap-EDM or whatever you want to call it would be better if someone was bringing a more feminine vibe to counter the dudeishness but then someone did that and I'm like ehhhh. Maybe I should listen to this new stuff tho.

MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

i feel like i should like these tracks more than i do, because i love chime-y melodies and it kinda sounds like old four tet with updated production, but nothing comes close to this: http://wedidit.bandcamp.com/track/the-happy-mask-shop

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 23 May 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

i guess they sound a little too contented with life, needs more giant choir drama.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 23 May 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link

does this belong here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKZxIrITsyo

ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

i know one place it does belong, and that is with the rest of my tv that i threw out the window

ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

cat power being in this thread is the single most baffling thing I have read here

katherine, Saturday, 14 September 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link

ten months pass...

Time for that blog to be updated with Catey Shaw from the rolling worst music of 2014 thread.

JRN, Thursday, 17 July 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link

(Hmm, guess I don't know how to link to other threads)

JRN, Thursday, 17 July 2014 04:11 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

OMG the latest iPhone 5 commercial featuring the most inane (even for an Apple ad) song ever turns out to be Julie Doiron?!?

I think she has probably just smoked herself insane.

lyrics:

"I’m feeling hopefully feeling quite hopefully
with good people all around me I’m feeling hopefully

And the light shines bright all through the night and our dreams are making us nice stories
And my loves are well sleeping just right and I know know know now that we’re…
Living the life of dreams living the life of dreams…"

rip van wanko, Sunday, 3 August 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o84y-5-cO0

goth colouring book (anagram), Saturday, 25 October 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

I don't blame Nick Drake for this. I do blame these fuckers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8YCSJpF4g4

Is the trend for ads using teeth-gratingly bad stripped down cover versions a separate thing, or all part of the same general malaise of tweeness?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLOnR1s74o

Pheeel, Sunday, 26 October 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link

Heard this at the gym (???) the other day and it reminded me that someone has to send a Terminator back in time to kill Ben Lee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTeZcHWHeW4

Tim F, Sunday, 26 October 2014 04:25 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

this genre of cloying crap that would fit perfectly in a tv commercial is called 'indie' now.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

I never thought I'd get a chance to say this, but I actually really like this Ingrid Michaelson song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GBT37_yyzY

she is the WC Handy/Bill Monroe/Chuck Berry/James Brown/Kraftwerk of light-hearted, whimsical indie hipster music that seems specifically manufactured for Apple commercials. without 'The Way I Am' and "Be OK', there could be no Pomplamoose or She & Him.

dichtgekitte discman (unregistered), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:12 (nine years ago) link

I got into that song after hearing it at the grocery store a while back. I guess that made me think it was a bigger success than it actually was.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link

yeah, I've heard it a lot while shopping. I'm more surprised that 'The Way I Am' (which I despise) only got to #37 on Billboard. I could have sworn it was a major hit at the time.

dichtgekitte discman (unregistered), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:34 (nine years ago) link

I wouldn't really lump "Girls Chase Boys" in with the Apple commercials btw... different kind of pop, trying to catch some kind of observational gravitas and emotion. Within its world, there are things at stake. For comparison, check, I dunno, that awful Geico ad with the cheery lady singing about computers covered in bees. Whoever agreed to do the background whistling for that should be banned from the music industry on principle.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link

is this supposed to be mocking Robert Palmer, or is it just a coincidence?

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link

what part of "(An Homage to Robert Palmer's 'Simply Irresistible')" fails to answer your question?

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 06:45 (nine years ago) link

good song tho. nowhere near as horrid as pomplamoose and geico advert choon etc.

describing a scene in which the Hulk gets a boner (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 06:46 (nine years ago) link

Ah, didn't click through so it didn't show me the title.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

This seems completely consistent with 'Apple commercial' music to me. Maybe not necessarily Apple, per se, but definitely some tech bullshit

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link


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