another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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Yes, to an extent, and that's part of my skepticism. I sometimes feel new generations want to find something to champion that isn't in line with the prevailing taste (so maybe it is a smidge of contrarianism, though I don't think it's as forthright as Armond's).

Gukbe, Saturday, 13 April 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I like Jaime and Calum's writing a lot (and I think Jaime is higher on Jerry Lewis -- the linchpin of vulgar auteurism? -- than I am).

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

shove it, zachylon, i don't anyone to give a shit about what i think except me

― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:39 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i didn't even mean it *like that* but ok

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

meh alright

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 13 April 2013 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I wouldn't go to Morbs' DJ night and he wouldn't go to mine and I think we're both fine with that.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Saturday, 13 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

i wish i had a DJ night.

Pat Finn, Saturday, 13 April 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

AW's take on F911 actually seems mostly OTM, hard to remember a time when ppl actually took moore seriously, but citing 'kevin costner in jfk' as an appeal to authority is an all-time lol.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 13 April 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

For the past seven months I’ve personally been fielding questions about why I didn’t like the movie Lincoln. Going through the unpleasant effort of explaining the film’s basic inaccuracy and unfairness to people who were prepared to love and defend it simply because it was customized to their political sentiments, made my explanation all the more frustrating. (When die-hard Spielberg scoffers praised Lincoln, I knew their commendations had nothing to do with esthetics or history, only with the film’s slanted politics and strenuously forced contemporary parallel to Obama’s lame-duck presidency.)

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

he sounds like a Soviet press agent from 1981.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

The least coherent Soviet press agent from 1981.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

meh, that's 50/50 btwn otm and crazy.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link

As you are 50/50 between otm and crazy, that means Armond's piece is 25/75, respectively.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link

It’s as bad as a Saturday Night Live skit. Or a Jon Stewart’s Early Show skit. Or a Real Time with Bill Maher skit. (Or a Morning Joe, Rachel Maddow skit, I mean, “newscast.”) That’s how low the producer of the terrific early Zemeckis-Gale comedies has sunk.

I'm a huge fan of Used Cars but man

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link

That whole practice of acting like your personal canon is everybody's...Armond's still got it

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 03:59 (ten years ago) link

also the "early" in front of "Zemeckis-Gale," presumably to distinguish between I Wanna Hold Your Hand and Back To The Future...I tip my hat.

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link

There’s obscenity in joking about the media’s protection of Obama’s image and its implicit lack of decorum which began (negatively) with the media’s assault on George W, Bush’s presidency. But Nevermind. (That might have been a more clever title for the short–what, was Tony Kushner, having justly lost the Oscar, too busy reading Entertainment Weekly?).

you really have to work hard for me not to "right on" any slam of whcd horseshit. and there's no denying armond works hard.

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 04:07 (ten years ago) link

it's maddening yet somehow unsurprising that AW fails to elaborate on the supposed 'basic inaccuracy and unfairness' of spielberg's film, but then again you'd think that a guy who thinks that jon stewart hosts the 'early show' wouldn't throw stones about stuff like that.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link

This guy could turn the Smurfs 2 into a WAKE UP LIBERAL SHEEPLE thinkpiece.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link

i so wouldn't be surprised if that review actually existed

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 05:17 (ten years ago) link

love that Armond gets an Ebert dig in there.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 06:20 (ten years ago) link

I think I genuinely might find Armond tiresome now, and I am not really a fan of Obama or the WHCD (although I still think Colbert's turn was brilliant).

Gukbe, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 06:21 (ten years ago) link

colbert's turn was brilliant because armond's otm about the whcd, tho. (doing it to obama would of course be nice but i don't ask anything of colbert anymore; i feel like he has already overachieved.)

that ebert line is NEXTLEVEL: just coherent enough to imply that roger ebert whitewashed america's critical discourse. also laughed out loud at this:

Spielberg boasts about Day Lewis’ method of ”becom[ing] his character: Hawkeye from Last Of The Mohicans, Bill the Butcher in The Gangs of New York and Abraham Lincoln from Lincoln. And you know what, he nailed it.” Nailing it is the correct, crucifying term for the Washington Correspondents Dinner’s deprecation of American history.

:O

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 06:58 (ten years ago) link

"deprecation"

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 06:59 (ten years ago) link

WHCD is horeshit, no doubt, but this whole piece is just silly axe-grinding that ropes in a number of disparate elements that he hates. Ebert comment has some merit, sure, but it's also being very selective, the same as the Maddow comment.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:00 (ten years ago) link

i can barely even parse this dude's sentences any more.

he should just move into a literal echo chamber, he'd probably get off on it.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:01 (ten years ago) link

maybe robert fripp can build him something.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:02 (ten years ago) link

tbf he's leveled that criticism @ ebert forever

xp

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:02 (ten years ago) link

oh no it is absurdly selective! i am an ebert fan. armond, yknow. has a shtick.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:04 (ten years ago) link

Oh I know he has, but that's the problem. He throws in his pet peeves wherever he can, all the time. It betrays his move from criticism into vendetta.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:04 (ten years ago) link

ok sorry sorry but the brackets here.

It is not funny when Obama-as-Day-Lewis confuses things, saying “The hardest part? Trying to understand his [my] motivations. Why did he [I] pursue ‘heatlh care’ first? What makes him [me] tick? Why doesn’t he [I] get mad? If I was him I’d be mad all the time. But I’m not him, I’m Daniel Day Lewis.”

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:07 (ten years ago) link

and yeah he lost all sense of perspective and grammar long ago.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:08 (ten years ago) link

I love all these fictional Spielberg haters who suddenly came rushing out to praise Lincoln after trashing the dude for so many years.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:12 (ten years ago) link

why does anyone bother reading armond white, is the question? you have no one to blame but yourselves.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:18 (ten years ago) link

you [i] have no one to blame but yourselves [obama]

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link

:)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link

I'm just amazed that he waited a whole month to get in his first post-death Ebert dig. Unless I missed one, of course.

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link

That whole practice of acting like your personal canon is everybody's

It's a critic's job not to care about everybody's canon, homie.

tbf he's leveled that criticism @ ebert forever

yeah, he should stop, you ppl have won.

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

you ppl have won

Yes. The ppl have also won on The Shawshank Redemption, too. Life is choosing new battles, et al.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

But, wait! It gets worse!

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

love that comma

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link

his piece on Portrait of Jason was his best in awhile.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

Reviews in which he knows the spotlight isn't going to be on are typically better.

cacao nibs (Eric H.), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link

I'm just amazed that he waited a whole month to get in his first post-death Ebert dig. Unless I missed one, of course.

― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:53 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the man has untold reserves of restraint.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link

It's a critic's job not to care about everybody's canon, homie.

no shit, boyee, but when critics act like it's a matter of record that a relatively obscure note in someone's career was their peak, it can suggest their head is up their ass. and dare i suggest it re: armond.

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link

dude, trolling is what armond _does_

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

which is why I used phrases like "he's still got it" and "i tip my hat" in regards to it

da croupier, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

when critics act like it's a matter of record that a relatively obscure note in someone's career was their peak

Uh no boyee, he was likely saying the early Zemeckis-Gale comedies were better than the shit Bob Z has been churning out for the last quarter-century.

Armond aside, the smuggled truth of the WHCD skit is that Bam is a mere actor feeding his supporters' fantasies. Good for POTUS for farting in their faces. Rodham 2016.

ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

I hear she produces the most delicate-toned air biscuits. Just lovely.

Not Simone Choule (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 May 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

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