Should I join the Labour Party?

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Disappointing that, given all that is going on at the moment, the Labour Party's new party political broadcast bangs on about immigration.

djh, Friday, 12 April 2013 08:09 (eleven years ago) link

at the risk of repeating myself, forget it, the party's dead.

life went on, sadly (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 April 2013 08:21 (eleven years ago) link

Laziness has stopped me from cancelling the £2.50 or w/e a month i give them up to now. Will do it at lunch.

Des Fusils Pour Banter (ShariVari), Friday, 12 April 2013 08:23 (eleven years ago) link

cool

conrad, Friday, 12 April 2013 09:32 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

from the other thread -

"Having had some time to think about it, I think I'm going to start volunteering time for the labour party some how. Does anyone else do anything? I'm a bit unsure where to start, do i just go and be like "hiya diane abbott sure i'll put the kettle on and sort mail"? Is there a good website that details how to help?"

i want to do this too. though not sure if i join and become a paying member, if i get to actually do much. which is what i want. i want to be active. anyone here a member?

StillAdvance, Saturday, 25 June 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link

talking to ppl I know tonight, a lot of v strong anti-corbyn sentiment from labour people, it seems so ubiquitous, I can't help but feel my grievances & indeed whole perspective on this are so marginal there's no point in being in the party

ogmor, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

My wife is a member

I don't think you have to agree with everyone else in order to make a positive contribution fwiw

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

I'm not naturally a joiner and it's been a struggle to suppress the crippling frustration and dejection I feel wrt british politics but right now it's hard to feel optimistic about a party run from the bottom up and honestly I have no idea how I can make a positive contribution at this point

ogmor, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 21:12 (seven years ago) link

not sure theres any use in supporting corbyn at this point. you can only support a man, deserted as much as he has, so far. its no longer practical from the looks of things.

i still want to join though.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 30 June 2016 09:37 (seven years ago) link

I was a member for the last year but stopped paying subs a couple of months ago for a combination of financial and ideological reasons. If you join your local party will most likely be VERY keen to get you involved in any way you want - stuffing envelopes, attending meetings, canvassing on the streets, etc etc. There's loads of opportunities to get involved practically.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 June 2016 09:43 (seven years ago) link

otm

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 June 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

I vacillate between thinking i should join and go for it seriously over the next few years - aiming to be a ward Councillor and, in the fullness of time, a PPC - and mostly assuming the party is heading in a direction i couldn't bring myself to vote for let alone represent.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 30 June 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link

lots of local movers and shakers - organisers, councillors and so on who are part-timers apparently doing it out of belief and wanting to contribute - seem to have the same sort of cliquey, manoeuvring, driven, insubstantial on-message alternative reality mindset, in thrall of their local labour mp/mayor/anyone with a degree of ~power~ ready to regurgitate the plp pov in order to futher their own...careers?

I would like to get more involved because I don't have and don't want a career so might be an asset of sorts or at least be viewed as a hinderance and they'd have to expend effort marginalising me? either way

conrad, Thursday, 30 June 2016 09:59 (seven years ago) link

my support for corbyn was more for the movement to democratise the party and run it from the bottom up, but given the nature of the machinations that have been used to make his position untenable it looks like that is anathema to the ppl who are still evidently running things

with both this and the referendum result we've had democratic decisions which the establishment has been unable or perhaps just unwilling to make work. not sure what people are supposed to do in the face of this sort of anti-democracy

the willingness of people to make practical compromises is what has sustained the system for so long, I don't think it will be sufficient to solve the deeper problems, but hey, there's an election coming, got to look good for the tabloids

ogmor, Thursday, 30 June 2016 10:04 (seven years ago) link

Yes, that's the key thing a lot of people are missing. It's not specifically about Corbyn - the idea of Labour as a democratic political movement goes far beyond the choice of leader. The naked contempt for members, not just within the PLP but from the Labour-aligned press and centrists within the wider party, clearly shows that's never going to happen unless Corbyn manages to hang on an implement a huge structural reform.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 30 June 2016 10:09 (seven years ago) link

I vacillate between thinking i should join and go for it seriously over the next few years - aiming to be a ward Councillor and, in the fullness of time, a PPC - and mostly assuming the party is heading in a direction i couldn't bring myself to vote for let alone represent.

yeah this has been my thing for a long time, Corbyn's election swung me towards the former but here we go again

No

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 June 2016 14:30 (seven years ago) link

six years pass...

A reminder of how the Labour Party is now bad.

Blacklisting candidates for liking tweets from Sturgeon saying she had recovered from COVID is a disgusting look for Labour. https://t.co/4nMzqMdTEV

— Tom Sutton for NW YL Chair 🔶️ (@PushTheSutton) October 22, 2022

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 October 2022 12:39 (one year ago) link

is this about enforcing anti-snp party discipline or is it more whatever pretext is to hand to keep out the wrong sort of people? or a two birds one stone situation

Left, Sunday, 23 October 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

Pretty sure the SNP is not a big talking point on the doorsteps of Milton Keynes North.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link

I believe it is part of a general purge of socialists, though I don't know much about this particular individual.

the pinefox, Sunday, 23 October 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

is the party just going to get more and more reactionary on the assumption that tory fuckery and FPTP and lesser evil guilt tripping will hand them victory anyway regardless of how toxic they are and how little they have to offer to anyone who matters? or are they just spiteful pieces of shit as a matter of habit

Left, Sunday, 23 October 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

Both.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/selective-history

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 February 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link

funny to see chessum beef make its way into the lrb

devvvine, Monday, 13 February 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

it’s the NLR!

that is quite a roasting

Tracer Hand, Monday, 13 February 2023 15:53 (one year ago) link

The 2017 election is described as ‘a moment of intoxication from which the leadership never really came down’

same here tbh.

calzino, Monday, 13 February 2023 16:43 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

A community centre which helped provide food and support to people in Broxtowe has closed for financial reasons amid claims the Labour Party removed the local political group’s access to a bank account.

🗒️Full story: https://t.co/ZqXU2bn8TY pic.twitter.com/PsWCOkYKr7

— Notts TV (@Notts_TV) August 22, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 09:17 (eight months ago) link

I wish this jerkoff would just fade away. That's probably his fear, if he doesn't troll people with right-wing talking points he get's lower numbers because he's not half as interesting or funny as lots of the average shitposters who rip his stupid posts to pieces every day.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 10:38 (eight months ago) link

lol meant as a reply to the novara thread!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 10:39 (eight months ago) link

Lol

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 23 August 2023 10:39 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

This is Wes Streeting's constituency

We are delighted to announce our independent PPC for the Ilford North seat is the inspirational Leanne Mohamad. pic.twitter.com/luu3fU2rXa

— Redbridge Community Action Group (@RedbridgeAction) January 15, 2024

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 January 2024 18:35 (three months ago) link


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