Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

Human emotions save the day again! Oh wait, no, this time it was stories, because that's totally different, right?

Also, was I being slow? I didn't get it - if the big bad eats the stories/soul, then surely the person doesn't have them anymore? That's why it's a scary thing, right? So how come the Doctor remained completely unaffected by any of his stories being eaten?

Also, lol, Bladerunner.

That wasn't very good, or maybe it's just my allergy to children singing as plot device.

(Yeah, I was all set to be annoyed at the Doctor for having his memory wiped for a little girl he'd only just met, but then it was like nothing ever happened. Also "hurrah we have saved everyone and there are definitely no bad consequences of everyone being in orbit around a planet-sun-thing which has imploded and/or magically ceased to exist")

Blimey - that was a poor episode.

what the hell? that was amazing

i bawled like a baby

such a hugely effective emotional pay-off

I was all set to be annoyed at the Doctor for having his memory wiped for a little girl he'd only just met

Nah, you see, I would've been fine with that. Also, it wouldn't have just been for her, it would've been for all the rest of those societies. PLUS if he forgot everything about himself, then 'Doctor Who?' might actually have an acceptable comment. Possibly. No, no, it almost certainly would still have been annoying. But at least it would have been SOMETHING, rather than the big nothing we got.

this ep was really just there to cement the doctor and clara, and flesh out clara. fwiw i love the hell out of clara.

btw i'm not playing down the nothingness of the plot or cancelling you out emil.y

I actually didn't hate ALL of the episode, even though the emotions-will-save-everything device was pretty clearly signposted. I was just particularly weirded out that this big thing seemed to actually do nothing when it was devouring Rutger Hauer, sorry, the Doctor's stories.

Also, the fact that the musical choices are so utterly terrible in nu-Who made the whole singing aspect pretty bad for me. It reminded me of little more than the faux-emotive culmination of the shy-pee episode of Brooker's old TV series.

Rutger Hauer, sorry, the Doctor

bahahahahahahaha otm

Bah, was actually building up to be my favourite episode in ages, just a cool, good-looking self-contained SF story. Then the last ten minutes happened. Clara was very charming in it.

Liam Cunningham next week.

i did like that clara's leaf (mawkish as it was) was more powerful as a source of nourishment than all the doctor's memories, especially as clara doesn't know just how important the fact of her existence is just yet

right then, right at that moment, i was streaming actual tears

DAVOS

I really hope the next episode is Davos trying to recruit the Doctor and Clara to fight for Stannis, but that's not going to happen.

I was moved by the ending part of this, but the singing was killing me slowly and painfully.

interesting granddaughter line

"clara doesn't know just how important the fact of her existence is just yet"

well we don't really either, eh?

also, was terribly disappointed by this episode. agree at the potential, and the letdown of how they 'beat' the creature.

well we don't really either, eh?

we don't, but the doctor has indicated pretty strongly that she's ~unusual~ in a moffat kind of way

which in the 50th year is going to be, like, she's the big bang on legs or something

how they 'beat' the creature.

By the creature you mean the giant red emoticon.

mighty morphin jack-o-lantern.

I enjoyed this ep much more than the last one

also: written by Neil Cross, Luther creator :D

though yeah I didn't really get the whole I'll give you all my memories and welp off we go bye

memories killed the angry man star

Hated the ep, apart from a couple of minutes when I made myself believe it was codedly about Gareth Malone, parasite god feeding off emotional energy of military wives etc.

Lol, woof.

interesting granddaughter line

― Let's Make Laugh II (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, April 7, 2013 4:13 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was an old Who bit of fanservice rather than a hint at things to come, though, right?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/26d67fa5e2c68c066031d9307a705f95/tumblr_mkwadqK6yQ1rkz2lyo3_250.jpg

Not sure if this belongs on this thread or the brony thread, but this is one of the worst things I've seen on the interwebs in a while.

That's just a still from Girl In The Fireplace, surely?

i think this is worse

Who/Firely crossover is just bad for everyone

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/68CA1ACD-1A6E-49FF-A29D-EA5EC1CBBA52-4981-000002B638865006_zps7530691d.jpg

*reaches for sickbag*

yep

Why...

This was an old Who bit of fanservice rather than a hint at things to come, though, right?

― emil.y, Sunday, 7 April 2013 23:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this being year #50 i'm hoping for the latter

Does anyone know, will the 50th anniversary episode be incorporated into this series, or are they doing a special?

i think it's a special, and i know it'll be screened in cinemas in 3d, but last i looked nobody knew how long it would be

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_serials#Series_8

Series 8
The eighth series is planned to start filming in September 2013 and Jenna-Louise Coleman has confirmed she is returning.

50th

oh FILMING

i should not post just after i get up

i have ilx set to killfile everything u post before 9am

<3

I was all set to argue vociferously with emil.y about the show's fondness for emotion as a buffer against something of a vogue for Aspie protagonists in various SF these days, and then I actually watched the episode, and yeah. Awful. Not limited to the ending (as a general rule they don't ruin things for me), but the problems with this episode start well before then.

All the singing sent me to sleep so I missed the second half

Since Moffat took over we've had to start vetting episodes for scariness before deciding whether Jo will be ok watching them, this is the first time we've rejected one for being too shit rather than too frightning.

still, props for setting a story not on earth, and making it look pretty neat.

The not-on-Earth thing is good, that's true.

Leee, I absolutely wouldn't mind the emotions thing if it wasn't the answer to half of all the episodes ever. Though I still think the Doctor himself shouldn't be having human emotions. http://by-strategy.tumblr.com/post/38807217731/list-of-doctor-who-episodes-where-emotion-saves-the-day

while i enjoy the bits about the mystery of who clara is, and the aliens were well done, i found these two episodes terrible, and yeah, tried to excuse that terribleness as part of being "for the kids," but seriously, ugh. felt like it was a trumped-up webisode.

I don't even know if you can use the "for the kids" excuse, because my 5 year old loves Doctor Who and even she ended up getting bored and wandering off to play about 15 minutes into this episode.

wish they'd go back to the companion just being a companion, not some weird crack in the universe, not a love interest, just a friendly human to run around with. and I also wish he'd lose the ability to steer the TARDIS again... I like it better when they don't know where they're going.

I may just be saying "I wish it was 1978 again" which is fine, but I'm still right.