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"penisless crispin glover"

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 7 August 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

otm

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 7 August 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Susan, you are a man.
Get in reality. You are making believe you are a woman.
You are the dick owning bela fleck.

susanyouareaman, Sunday, 7 August 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i am the erotically uncharged crispin glover.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

and i want marissa off my back! why do you think i spend all day acting like a robot and waxing my face up like an apple? B/C I DON'T WANT TO BE TOUCHED! and i've spent too much time today on ILM. i must retreat to my room, where i cannot be touched or reached. goodbye.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

bar none, this is the all-time worst thread in ILM history.

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really understand what's going on at this point. It feels like that scene in Being John Malkovich when he goes into his own head and just sees a bewildering world of Malkovich.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link


yeah, someone lock this thread, please. i can't stand the idea of this marchant woman getting any press whatsoever.

JD from CDepot, Monday, 8 August 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think Bela fleck has a dick.
I think he is dating women who are very average to sustain his 30 second_____ with no penis.
Bela Fleck is a whimp.
next. Crispin Glover may not be a gorgeous man in every way..but he is a genius.
He sued Steven Speilbergs movie company and won, without being a major star. He has really guts.
Crispin Glover is one of the most under-rated geniuses of our time.
I am sick of Bela Fleck and his childish games.
I want Bela off my back and the games to end.
the wack world of Crispin Glover is about being a highly gifted artist.
He is also a very serious actor with a cult following. don't knock Crispin.
I was a fan the day I first saw him in a movie.

marissa, Monday, 8 August 2005 00:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I love you Bela, but you love millions of other women
. You love alot of women.
I was going to write you to tell you that I love you, but you married this person.
You would have rejected me anyway for this person that you are now divorcing.
You love alot of women bela.
I mena nothing to you. and I don't want to be an afterthought.
I didn't go off and marry someone.
If you didn't marry her, I would have contacted you.
sooner.
since you had this girlfriend, I decided not to talk to you.
so I let you get married.
But I did find out that you have no penis.
You are a whimp Bela.
Now you are back with the same types of women.
I am sick of men like yourself. I like men who real backbone.
Crispin is not my dreamlover. I am not infatuated by this man.
I think I respect the kind of person he is ...
I don't like whimps.

Marissa, Monday, 8 August 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.almaleh.com/art/bosch-1.jpg

you will be shot (you will be shot), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

bar none, this is the all-time worst thread in ILM history.
-- ken taylrr (or...), August 8th, 2005 5:27 PM. (ken taylrr)

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i don't really understand what's going on at this point. It feels like that scene in Being John Malkovich when he goes into his own head and just sees a bewildering world of Malkovich.
-- Fetchboy (wangchungvsah...), August 8th, 2005 5:41 PM. (Felcher)

both OTM

already disheveled hair projection (wetmink), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, I feel like I just had acid reading this thread. It got really fucking crazy(ier) while I wasnt looking. Good lord.

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link

R.D. Laing said that madness was an adaptation to the failure to adapt to a crazy world. Picasso said that art is "the lie that tells the truth". If they were right, a crazy artist would be someone really worth listening to. Not saying there is one here, mind.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 8 August 2005 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Marissa Marchant is a gorgeous woman! She said she was tall too. Why did someone distort her gorgeous face ? These men on here are so intimidated and jealous of Marissa.
There is not one woman as beautiful as she is in Hollywood or the media.
That woman is hot!!!!!!!!!!!
Bela must have no penis. I doubt that he has a woman this good looking or that his wife was this hot.
I think Bela Fleck is most likely intimidated by Marissa too.
What a whimp. I am an Alpha Male.
I just contacted Marissa and with hopes we can someday meet.
I am like this bozos.
It is said that when men can't deal with gorgeous women who are extremely talented, they opt to cut them down and post photos to distort her image. All of you men have no sex drive, and no balls.

J.J, Monday, 8 August 2005 08:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, you've all got no balls.
Not one man here is really a man. None of you could ask Marissa Marchant out. None of you can admit that she much hotter then the rest of them.
She's gorgeous. She has a beautiful face.
I 've seen other photos of this woman. She has this nicely rounded figure. What a knockout. She has a gorgeous pair of eyes.
Great lips.
she is stunning.
None of you men are man enough for her and call her crazy because none of you are with beautiful women.
You all have no balls.
You're not Alpha Males.
You re a bunch of spineless non-male, penisless pyschos.

J.J, Monday, 8 August 2005 08:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Men who distort beauty and insult it are pyscho.
These beautiful photos were distorted by an ugly male no doubt.
another male who feels uncomfortable with beautiful women. Marissa was not only hotter then all the women I see on M.T.V she is beautiful looking right now then every woman I see in Hollywood. No woman in hollywood has eyes like this and a face this hot.
She is a knockout. The women in Hollywood look like a sea of dogs.
they look manish, unfeminine and very blah!
I just contacted Marissa like I said.
I'm an Alpha Male, Bela Fleck and Crispin are not.
The other men on this board do not have a gorgeous woman, and insult beautiful and talented women because they are inferior men barking on the side of the street at a beautiful and talented woman.
What a bunch or creeps.

J.J, Monday, 8 August 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

1000 new answers by when? Wednesday, do you think?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 August 2005 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link

You know Bela ends his acoustic tour today in Long Island. You know why? He lives in Long Island New York and is now home to practice with the other Trio, the jazz trio.
I received many prank phone calls from Long Island a few month back. The person wouldn't speak to me.
Endless calls. They changed their number when I tried to call them back.
They wouldn't answer the phone.
It went on for three months. This was after I gave my phone number to Bela Fleck. And now I am speaking about this on the net. Because I am angry.
This man is a whimp!
Even if Bela had some issues with me, he should be able to speak about them directly.
I don't respect whimpy men. It is o.k to be shy.
but this is just a symptom of a man who is not mature.
I am going to get rid of this whimp./ The end of the month I will have no phone number that he will ever be able to contact.
Soon, he will have no way of contacting me, because Bela is not man enough to phone me or talk to me like he is a real man.
I am infuriated.
He has a nerve to call me and hang up the phone over and over.
He is the only person that would have my number.
..in long island.
He Bela, you deserve this. You are not a grown man.
You should be able to deal with someone directly, if not, then the net is the only place to speak about it. I would want privacy otherwise. But you don't want to speak directly.
Games.
I don't have alot of respect for you.
I am sick of you.
who do you think you are?
I have taken my website off.
I am changing my email account in about three weeks.
You have three weeks or less to be a man.
Otherwise, who cares about you. There are alot of men out there.
I don't want a whimpy man.
It is a real turn off.
I am about to permanently dump you. I mean it this time.

Marissa, Monday, 8 August 2005 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link

We call these "threads", but sometimes they're really ropes.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 8 August 2005 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Marissa you are so beautiful..
"I Love music".. you've all got no balls. Look at Marissa..
Not one man here is really a man. Marissa I love your music..
I hate you loosers. None of you know how talented she is.. What a talent! marissa played me her music... it was the most talented i ever have heard.. but it was deleted
where are the baeutiful and talented women of Ilovemusic?
Boy I did find out that the net is a place for rats.
You are a rat Susan Dougles.. a rat on the net. I dont have time for this.
Marissa is incredible... She's gorgeous. she plays every instuurment like a genius..
Don't be a whimp! Suck my dick on this site. Support talent... aritstic freedom.
Momus.. you have no penis. whimp. You are spineless and pyscho. Can I see your penis? No

Gary, Monday, 8 August 2005 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Momus.. you have no penis. whimp.

come on now, there is photographic evidence that utterly refutes this assertion.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 August 2005 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Momuss.. what is your penis on too my alpha male? I hate you.
you dontg have a girlfriend.. never will
You mean nothing to me. bozo I will never marry you or Bela fleck.
I fouind out that you have no penis.
You are a whimp Momus... a whimp man
YOu delete the music of talented woman and you are a homosexua.
I am sick of men like yourself. My music

Gary, Monday, 8 August 2005 10:27 (eighteen years ago) link

link not safe for work:

http://www.cynthiapcaster.org/casts/c_scroll_page/casts_thumbs.htm

fourth from the left. See for yourself!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 August 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Pashmna.. NO talent.. messed up nutso...
all the Ilovemusic losers and want to be's only wish they have what marissa has! one wish and you are penisless
she is beauctiful and talented. you are not, you are mentally ill and ugly.. I just contacted Marissa.. we agreed you all are ugly people and mentally ill unpopular going no where in life.
Marissa is a one woman beatles.. and gorgous to boot! YOU ARE FAT, INSANE MENTALLY ILL, LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary, Monday, 8 August 2005 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm quite flattered to be mentioned by you, Marissa, although perhaps it's a little alarming to be mentioned in the same breath as Bela Fleck. So please continue to imagine me penisless. Actually, I think your music is rather good.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 8 August 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

What is ridiculous about this is that there are plenty of people here who genuinely like her music, incl me.

Sadly, Momus, it's kind of easier to imagine you penniless than penisless!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 August 2005 10:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I would kill to have a $50,000 studio! (Not really, Marissa!)

Momus (Momus), Monday, 8 August 2005 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Good try on acting like you are me.
But Gary, you are not me.
Maybe the people here are not fat and ugly.

Anyway,
You are just being nice because I am taking my whole Marissa Marchant and leaving you. You want to continue to play your head games with me and inusult me and defame me freely on the net. and you can't do this anymore.
I just want to be free of the games.
I think Bela might be playing a head game on the net and that he might have posted the first message under his name.
The man is a spineless musician who I don't respect, because he acts like a child, not a grown man.
I have to move on. same thing with Nicolas, he is a spineless man.
Bela has little backbone.
He is weak and frail, and he always tries to please people in the music industry, and doesn't ever make waves.
He is very spineless, cowardly, and he proved this by calling me endlessly on his cellular and hanging up like a little boy.
Bela is a little boy., and I am dumping him, because he is not a real grown up man.

Marissa M, Monday, 8 August 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

The problem with this thread is that if we simply say Marissa is mad, we're being bad-mannered and abusive, no worse than the people who went to rattle the bars at Bedlam and laugh at the inmates. Because Marissa is obviously quite an accomplished artist, and quite able to come online and express herself, not to mention move house, operate a recording studio, and so on. To call someone who did all that "mad" would be, itself, somewhat abusive. Is Daniel Johnston "mad"? He's a hero to many.

But if we say Marissa is sane, she becomes somewhat abusive, telling us we are "whimps" with no penises, vaunting her own beauty and talent to the skies, and so on. By the normal rules and standards of discourse, anyone doing that in a forum like this one is going to get mercilessly ribbed.

I think what's really interesting here is that we're in a confusing hinterland between those two situations. And that's also where Marissa's music leaves us. It inhabits a place exactly halfway between powerful and silly. Personally, I've always liked these hinterlands, these confused areas, though I have a feeling Marissa would rather not dwell there indefinately. In fact, perhaps it's a blessing that she doesn't acknowledge that she dwells there now.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

"I am taking my whole Marissa Marchant and leaving you"

Amazing.

cdwill, Monday, 8 August 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Momus, I get the feeling that by looking into the abyss, you caught sight of something that freaked you the fuck out.
Hence your use of the word "hinterland".

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Now, I think you might be on to something there...

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, Forksclovetofu, I must say I giggled a lot at your Basil Wolverton post. It did seem to capture the tone with horrendous acuity, without you having to say a word or look too mean. I notice Marissa seems to respond negatively to relatively minor slights, but find bigger ones curiously affirming, or just ignore them. But I'm heartened that she will end the thread not one iota more or less paranoid and angry and self-believing than she began it, despite all we've said. And that kind of oblivious, unconditional self-belief is (I speak from experience) a tremendously useful quality for an artist to have.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The best part of this thread was how many aliases Marissa came up with to both love and hate herself.

Or when Susan co-opted one of my logged-out aliases to make it more surreal then it already was. Extremely surreal.

Thread haters aboud were real though. I mean, sure it took some incredibly weird turns, but most often, at the hands of marissa herself (and her alises). Certainly speaks volumes for the artist/person in question, and speaks for the threads haters.

I'm still a marissa fan by far though - no joke!

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

haha another example of marissa posting contradictions and acting like she didn't:

http://www.scottmanning.com/archives/000370.php

The architect of the anti-talent movement (Tweekers), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The best part of this thread was how many aliases Marissa came up with to both love and hate herself.

yeah, see, that's the point at which i started to just think the entire thread was a joke (literally), and began to wonder just how i ever got caught up in it.

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

what's with the full time experts' analysis, guys? i somehow doubt this thread is over

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, all this concentration on "abusive comments" have gotten me to miss this dandy:

Marissa Marchant is gone off the net because of you

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

No meanspiritedness at your expense intended, Momus.
Always remember:
When you look into the Marissa, the Marissa also looks back at you.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 August 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

When you look into the Marissa, the Marissa also looks back at you.

especially if you spin around and say her name three times in a darkened bathroom while looking in a mirror!

Magic Marissa, Monday, 8 August 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm positive all the amusement of these threads about Marissa clouded this for me, but they did spur some questions and thoughts which haunt me in my dreams still: she wants to take on a different *stage name* right?
a) Apparantly, these days, she hardly appears on a stage at all
b) Will an 'extreme makeover' be accompanying this new name? I find it hard to believe Madonna - whilst still making music - will be untraceable once she takes on Joe Blow as her new stage name.
c) If in sixty years we're all gone, and this board is solely kept alive by contradicting Marissa-clones, will she be considered the female Syd Barrett?

Gerard (Gerard), Monday, 8 August 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

http://metropolis.japantoday.com/xmg/498/Thunderpants.jpg

Frogm@n Henry, Monday, 8 August 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I did appear on stage hardly ever, the reason is , I am tired of being put down and abused by other musicians or the people around me.
If you haven't noticed, our society is very comfortable with the bland and boring and ordinary.
Some people on this board have taken over my name Marissa Marchant and won't allow me to post in my name.
They are being mean to me.
This is about control and abuse.
I really believe that people don't want me to perform anywhere.
People kept giving me a hard time and saying they lost my cd's.
When I couldn't get a gig for six months in NYC and couldn't get a date, I realized that MEN are only interested in demeaning and insulting me through ignoring me and my talent or my looks.
Not only have I been told I am not good enough to play at small dives...I have been continually told by men, that I am not good enough for them.
I kept trying to get support and people kept ignoring me.
So I realized, that this is all a powertrip.
..meant to demean people who have talent and to exalt people who don't. when the guy who booked the clubs is a musician and he realized that I was getting alot of attention at the club and people were screaming, he gave me a very difficult time to come back.
Men are mostly in control, and it was very difficult to get bands together. women are not answering my ads. They to feel powerless, demeaned and intimidated by men putting them down all the time.
I don't feel that way. But female instrumentalist ..do not answer ads hardly at all for any instruments.
I mean HARDLy ever. Men are demeaning women so much, they don't feel hopeful about getting acceptance. That means their talent has been demeaned by so many men, that they don't call to try to get gigs.
Women often don't feel that good about themselves and don't support other women.
That is why you see so many women playing with men.
Women feel that their sex is meaningless and powerless without the help of men.
More or less. Even the lilth fair women, they all rely on men to back them up.
This is not right.
It means that something isn't right with men in their minds.
I believe that something is very wrong with most men's minds.
I am not the woman who feels this way./
They are into control. I am sure that a man keeps taking my name away from me.
Men are into control.
sick.
crazy.
I don't want to be rejected by men anymore.
I don't want to be at their mercy for acceptance, as they demean and abuse me and tell me that I am nothing. They have demeaned alot of women for thousands of years.
I have my own studio. If I ever get married or something or have a boyfriend, which I have never had, I may give concerts on my lawn or someone else's lawn. Men have been extremely unfriendly and abusive.
for years.
It is no wonder that the radio is mostly men playing.
or men playing for women.
Men don't like women who can arrange and write for themselves.
they don't like women who know alot about music.
And my music is very hard to play.
Men always need to be stars.
Norah Jones's husband writes almost every song and other men write her music. That is why she was signed. They love it when women look so sweet and don't write the music.
so I have given up on MANs world. I have created my own world on the net.
I don't have to go out and perform.
Men don't want me too. Just like they don't want to date me.
I have never had a boyfriend. And I have liked so many men.
They never want anything to do with me, once they find out about my music.
so I stay alone.
They like women who are not doing something much with their minds.
but I know that they'll be some acceptance for me out there. I am sick of being insulted by men.
I once played a gig in NYC ..the MC. ..he introduced me as Marissa MarSHIT.
and I didn't know the guy.
Men talk loudly in front of me while I was playing once.
I said..would you like to come up here and play?
the people were in shock that I spoke to a rude man this way.
Women stick up for rude males.
It is all so sad.
but there are nice men...just ..they are powerless..
the ones with power are not nice to women.
Alot of major labels know I am very good at improv..and they have no singers who are very good at improv...and they don't want to make women look too good.

marissa marchantt, Monday, 8 August 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link


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