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Oh yeah, I meant to say I guess I would enjoy a holiday with my parents, I get along pretty well with them, even if we don't have much in common at all.

Ronan, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

we don't have much in common at all

My Dad and I share an unhealthy appetite for alcohol and have been boozing together since I was at school. I suppose I should resent him for it but, you know, beer :)

onimo, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Camera is a Sony DSC-N1. It's pretty damn fine, I must say.

I think the problems with my parents probably started when I moved to England. They seem to think I'm some sort of traitor to my country, or something, in addition to being a Class traitor.

aldo, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 08:35 (sixteen years ago) link

They're right really. Poor Braveheart :(

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

So, you know that Irish guy who was imprisoned in Senegal for mooning? Am I the only one who thought he should have received a booting?

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i feel crap.

nathalie, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

My Dad and I share an unhealthy appetite for alcohol and have been boozing together since I was at school. I suppose I should resent him for it but, you know, beer :)

hehe...I do have an occasional drink with my parents though mainly on special occasions. other than that I bond with my Dad over sport!

Ronan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry to hear that Nath. Need to read the Irish Times this morning. Too busy :(

I have a very complicated relationship with my parents. I think a lot of that has to do with me.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Also decent wine and the enjoyment thereof has always been a good way to get chatting to my father. That and book collecting.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link

My dad is funny, he is very intelligent but he has not read a book, watched a film, or listened to a record in around 15 or 20 years I reckon.

Ronan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link

What does he get up to in his spare time? My parents are quite insular so I can't really imagine them not reading or listening to music. It's admirable but at the same time a little worrying how much they do rely upon each other. Should something happen it would be an utter disaster for the other.

Unlike my father I think my mother is my traditional male role model. She decided in her middle age that she was sick of teaching and is now a full time wood restorer and French polisher which means that the only time I see tools or visit a hardware shop is with her. I go to the supermarket with my father :)

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost WTF! Not one film? Not one book? Nor music? I have tried to make my dad read books, but in vain. :-( He did end up reading Lord of The Rings and a few Russian (!!!!) books but gave up after that. I think he did read War&Peace? Can't remember. Anyway, he does watch movies and listens to a crapload of shit. hah.

Disclaimer: did I say I felt crap? Well, I take it back. I feel hellacrap. I hate it when I feel this way without having gone out or not having had a drink/joint. Damn. It's like you feel crap for what?

nathalie, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Yep I know that feeling Nath, it's shit. Lately I've been trying to go out more just to at least say "well I had fun and feel shit" instead of just "I feel shit".

In his spare time my Dad golfs a lot, does work around the house, reads the paper, watches TV or goes to sports matches. He works very hard also during the week.

Ronan, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Fair enough.

I get that feeling of the occasion. I hate it. You end up feeling worse and worse. Best trick to shake it I've found is a good book somewhere quiet.

Ronan, are you going to E.P this year?

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I ask because I want to brag about being all packed already.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Since I came back from hols, PSU has been making a bad noise and running hot. Failed during the night, forced it to work again this morning and it failed again.

Weighed up the cost of a PSU and putting it in a 5 year old computer.

I AM WEAK.
(but I has a new computer)

aldo, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link

You deserve it, after the holiday you just had. What are F's folks like (or is that a tricky/sensitive/embarrassing question?)

Nath, when you feel crap without having gone out, isn't that just illness? Maybe you're getting a head cold. I know I am. All the kids are doing it.

Kev-lol, your parents are me and Mister M. (except more cultured and traveled). We too are very insular, and I sometimes worry about what will happen to us when we're old.

Ronan, your dad is like my dad, except that my dad doesn't work anymore because only one of his lungs functions and he sometimes watches films. But he doesn't read books or really listen to music at all. He likes to go to standup comedy shows, though, as long as they're not too shouty.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 11:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to think F's parents were worse. Now I am not so sure.

The closest my dad gets to books is the bookies. That's only two letters out.

I have remembered another one from the holiday. The kids are looking through the photos on my phone and there is one of me and my friends Gary, Colin and Mike on Mike's birthday. My Ma hears us talking - she has met Colin several times, Gary twice, and has not met Mike - and comes over to look at the picture.

Ma: "Who's Gary?"
Me: "He's the one on the left in the photo."
Ma: "I don't think I know him."
Me: "You have, you've met him more than once."
Ma: "Oh, was that him with his sister? He was nice."
Me: "No, that was Nick."
Ma: "Oh, I know where we met him. Yes, he was short."
Me: "No, that was Yuma."
Ma: "Oh, I don't know then."

Gary is about my height and thin, and from Liverpool.
Nick is about the six foot mark and has a beard. He is from Leicester.
Yuma is a couple of inches shorter than me and about the same build. He is from Nigeria.

CAN YOU SPOT THE COMMON FACTOR THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED?

Then re-read this to remind yourself SHE HAD ACTUALLY SEEN GARY'S PICTURE.

aldo, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Gary. Isn't he the one who was at that party that time with that nice girl who used to like you? She was lovely. Why didn't you marry her?

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

That would have been preferable to the implicit "all blacks look the same" that was the actual answer.

aldo, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 11:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, black fella, eh?

I'm afraid my dad would be no better on this score.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I am reminded of the amusing argument my dad had with middle brother the other day about the directions to his house. Where he lives, and Dad has been once before. But Dad still insisted on arguing with him about how to get there.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 12:08 (sixteen years ago) link

My mother and I have a pretty basic relationship limited to phone calls and 2 or 3 visits per year. The only thing we really have to bond over are health issues.

I have no relationship or contact with my father other than the restraining order I plan to get against him in the near future. </debbie downer>

Man, I just got back from my first class. It was full of freshman and the dude sitting next to me was wearing his high school ring and not even bothering to take notes. Meanwhile I was busy writing down everything the instructor said or put on the board. Every now and then he'd stop and say "Is everyone getting this?" I didn't speak up b/c I was getting absolutely none of it. I stopped math with Algebra II and that was nearly 20 years ago.

I'm going to go over my notes and the chapter we covered in the book very carefully and slowly over the next couple of nights. If that doesn't wake up the highly capable intellect that has apparently fallen asleep in my brain, it's tutor time.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Your notes will make more and more sense as you reread them. Such an exciting time going back to learn something. It's like mature students always do well in Uni, they actually care about what they're doing!

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I really admire anyone who tries to learn maths-based things later in life. It's HARD.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

It's HARD.

*cries*

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm. That wasn't supposed to put you off, that was supposed to give you a sense of achievement when you do get it. Which of course you will.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

hahah, I know. I keep telling myself I will too. If these 18yr olds sitting next to me can do it, so can I.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

So true!

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Aww.
I'm so incompetent with math—I think the term is "inumeracy," as opposed to "illiteracy."
But my father had the highest math score in the country—100%—on his college boards. He ended up as a manager of a wire factory. Go figure.
I've been thinking of taking a math class, just to stretch my brain and get over my knee-jerk "I'm no good at math" attitude. First I want to do an intense Brazilian-Portuguese immersion, though. My Portuguese is so spazzy, and I'll get stuck that way if I don't correct it—start over from scatch.

Beth Parker, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh dear god Beth, I keep forgetting your card. Sorry!

kv_nol, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I've always been more of a word person but I think I can handle a bit of math in my 30s.

Ms Misery, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Kv, no worries! I just need to keep mailing them out from my end before they fill my tiny office/studio to the ceiling. Not that I'm very efficient or timely about it either.

Beth Parker, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 16:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay. You'll never guess what I forgot again today... sorry Beth.

Right, I am so ready for this festival. There is nothing that I have not packed. I am a camping god!

kv_nol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 10:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Ooh, get you. etc.

So, it seems all of my Dublin mates are going to December ATP this year. I feel sadface and left out because I can't go.

Aldo, Onimo, you're not going are you?

accentmonkey, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I have never been to an ATP.

It was the boy's b-day yesterday. We went out for steaks (I had the tuna variety rather than cow) and tried to go bowling. But it was league night so no go (they did give us passes for free games though, which was nice.) We then tried to go see Halloween but realized it hadn't opened yet, doh! Instead, home to drink on the front porch, revel in our stray cat colony and complain about the neighbors. Ahh, old age. (There was a bit more to the night after that but I'll keep that private, thank you.)

We have a three day weekend coming up here in the US. I imagine the bowling and/or the Halloween will happen at some point.

Tonight it's all about my math homework!! I've been reading on the bus and it's becoming a little more clear. Yesterday I was dressed in pink, with my pink notebook and pink pencil and totally clueless look on my face. I was one feathered pen away from being Elle Woods. Felt ridiculous. Will def. cowboy up on this one.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought a cowboy hat for the festival! I'll join you. I do not look good in pink mind. Fuschia I can just about get away with.

kv_nol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

LOL I CNA'T SLELP!

kv_nol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I am not going to the December ATP, I am having F put in suspended animation.

aldo, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link

We are not going to December ATP. One a year is as much as we can manage as it means having to sort out 4 days worth of babysitter cover for three kids. It would be nice to make a December one at some point as they always fall round about mrs o's birthday.

onimo, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Are they always in the same place? It sounds a bit involved.

I have a cowboy hat but I never wear it. It serves a decoration in the living room.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

It is a bit involved, Ms M, but substantially less so than other music festivals because you don't have to bring camping gear.

Oh kev-lol, I hope the weather holds up for the weekend for you.

Happy birthday, Mister Misery, btw.

accentmonkey, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, Mister Misery. We are the same age now until December.

I have never been to a music festival that involved camping.

Man, my obgyn sent me a postcard yesterday saying I needed to call them and discuss the results of my pap smear. I was terrified but just now they said they were normal and they just needed my new number. Couldn't they have marked "normal" on the card and asked me to call and update my contact info?

argh.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Kev, nah no Electric Picnic for me. I am working on the Sunday and then I agreed to DJ for four hours on Saturday night in the Pod, I'll make good money doing that plus four hour sets are rare as hell. Going on holidays on Monday too so need money/health as much as possible.

Ronan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

The American use of 'pap smear' always confuses me, because it doesn't involve paps at all.

ATP is not involved, really, and you get a nice chalet to stay in rather than a tent. It has changed location recently from Camber to Minehead, and will stay there until F0und4ti0n manage to piss off Butlins so much that they tell them to poke off (2 years, tops).

aldo, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know what a pap is! Other than, you know, the pappiness it involves here.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Ronan, sorry I won't get to FAP with you now. Enjoy your holliers though!

Weather is meant to be cloudy but dry. Fingers crossed!

Oh yeah and happy bday to the male mis!

kv_nol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmmm male ms mis would have worked better.

kv_nol, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah mixed reports on the weather. I'm sure there'll be an FAP this autumn sometime. I am off to parent's house in Spain with my gf so I can't wait. I intend to read/drink/swim for 5 days. Though when I said this to a friend on Sunday night he said "isn't that what you do here? look you're drinking right now. and you said you were swimming earlier".

Ronan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I am off to parent's house in Spain with my gf

That sounds lovely. I am jealous of the girlfriend you've landed.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:17 (sixteen years ago) link


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