It bothered me that she was so dumb wrt technology that she called a random phone number to get someone to help her "fix" the internet, and got all of her hacker skillz from the Shard. Other than that, I like her character.
If Chris Chibnall gets it I will never watch this show again. I hope it is someone entirely new to Who, I think this show needs fresh blood/ideas/etc.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
The only current regular writer I'd at all trust is Toby Whitehouse, mainly because of his Being Human pedigree.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Oh and obviously it would be interesting to see what Gaiman would do with it, but I can't see that happening.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
That didn't bother me that much, considering that the girl she was nannying obviously was comfortable with technology and rolling her eyes at her ineptitude; also having tried to help both my mother and my father work through wifi issues the tenor of that entire scene basically felt like the truest, most accurate representation of technological befuddlement I'd ever seen.
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
(xposts obv)
the main takeaway I have of Cornell from his Virgin/BBC books is that, aside from Human Nature, he cannot write or plot for female characters to save his life, so if he takes I would I would expect a massive uptick in complaints about how the women of Who come across
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
I like his writing BUT his association with Amanda Palmer and his involvement in her moneyspinning activities has kind of made me hate him?
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
^^^
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Oh he's probably a bit of a prick, and I don't like his writing unreservedly. But he's undeniably a great ideas man, and he knows how to handle a long-form narrative.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
I've been a longtime fan of his books & short stories. If I scrape away all my recent misgivings about him, admittedly I think I would enjoy seeing what he could do with Who
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I agree with that. I really would love to see someone who had had nothing to do with Who up until now get a crack at it, though.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
are you all ready for Dan Harmon's Doctor Who
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
YES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Danny Pudi would make a pretty flawless Doctor.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
Except for being American and all.
racist
:)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 April 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
Perfectly serviceable opener, not great but decent enough.
Had a sudden moment of horror towards the end though when all the souls were returned back to their bodies - had an image of some of them waking up to find themselves buried alive. :s
feel like DW never thinks about the full terrifying implications of these big, "alien controls all of humanity" storylines enough (though Torchwood's Children of Earth miniseries came close) - not that I'd want them to do it all the time (too fucking depressing), but sometimes I think it'd be interesting if the show explored that darkness a bit more.
― Roz, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
that was the thing though; most of those people were already dead so they didn't really have bodies to return to
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
They addressed that with 'anything's better than being trapped in a living hell...'
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah meant to add that
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Clara's pencilled-in ages in the front of her book going from 22 to 24, anyone?
― ailsa, Monday, 1 April 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I noticed that too
currently guessing that someone is using her as bait for a Doctor trap and that she was taken when she was 23
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
16's also missing. Apparently it's allegorical to missing seasons of the programme.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Monday, 1 April 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
What are you talking about
― Gukbe, Monday, 1 April 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
oh lol I should have caught on to that
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
How is it allegorical to missing seasons of the programme
I don't know why Paul Cornell hasn't been invited back. Family of Blood in 2007 was his last episode.
If I was Cornell I could see not wanting to come back after the terrible rewriting of the end of that
But a) was his invitation actually rescinded after his pilot didn't get picked up? hadn't heard that, and b) when would he possibly have time to write one?
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
Apparently it's allegorical to missing seasons of the programme.
oh god fanwank
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 April 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
now now lets hear suzy's theory out first
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
... it's not that complicated a theory; some of her years are missing from the book, and some seasons of Doctor Who are missing
if there's any more to it than that, good luck fandom
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
hopefully there is, because the second fanwank gets in the way (rather than being part of the scene/plot somehow) it's time to go home
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
that can't be it, because no seasons of Doctor Who are missing, and while Trial Of A Time Lord (#23) came after the hiatus, The Key To Time (#16) wasn't even delayed or affected by strike or anything
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
although tbh eliminating the key to time year and the trial year doesn't make all the sense in the world—they existed, they happened (obv i'm not pointing any of this at you suzy) xp
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
there was a non-Trial of a Time Lord season 23 that was cancelled by the hiatus, so in a sense it is a "missing" season.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but 16 doesn't fit with that in any way - it'd have to be 27 for the other number if so
but like I said, we should actually let suzy explain what she means before arguing over it
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
i thought she did tbh
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
that refers to series 16, which will be cancelled in 2021.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
haha yes
right now it seems awfully like the missing numbers are missing years of her life, which would fit with moffat's fetish for timey-wimey arcs
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
I assumed she just didn't read the book so much in those years because she was busy snogging and doing O-levels / working and saving for a trip
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
obv not since no-one has any idea what she meant!
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
I do not think the numbers correspond to actual season numbers, sic
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
how could they possibly allude to missing seasons, then
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Not quite clear whether you're being gallant or a dick or just skipping reading comprehension here, sic - Suzy really doesn't have a grand unified theory beyond what she said.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 April 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
I am genuinely not getting how the numbers are allegorical to missing seasons of Doctor Who, which is why I asked "how are they allegorical to missing seasons of Doctor Who". The only "missing" whole seasons are the theoretical 1985 S23, and the less-theoretical (in that iirc Cartmel has identified the four scripts or stories that would have been commissioned) S27. If the numbers don't relate, how is anyone making the jump of deduction, and if they do, how does 16 tie in?
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
If anything, someone should be arguing that they were an early-episode wink that Moffatt was lying about there being no story arc this year, given that 16 and 23 are the only series/seasons to ever explicitly have one
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
(no timewyrmo)
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Monday, 1 April 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
I took suzy to mean:
Some years of her life are missing from the list
Some early years of Doctor Who are missing most of their episodes
That is the only connection; there is not actual significance or correlation beyond some numbers just not being there
having said that, I expect that there will actually be something important that comes up storywise that explains why those numbers aren't there, but right now the theory being floated is "some fan noticed numbers were missing and thought of missing episodes"; you're making this into a Big Grand Thing that isn't even worth thinking about
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
leaf first page = fall of trenzalore
or too much of a stretch?
― POSTOBON Naranja (soda), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
Probably, seeing as we call it Autumn.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
Are there any UK writers who are women who could become the showrunner? (Yes, I went there.)
― Leeena Dunham (Leee), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
sally wainwright
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link