dude's name is winkie, i just want to point that out (no dongle)
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― 乒乓, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
just really lol to me since it's p obvious that the higher ups at complex were like, how can we get hits this week... *sees adria richards controversy* *assigns 50 hottest women in tech piece to underling*
I remember going on some weekend school trip where my dad was chaperoning when I was in junior high; I started a "what girls do you think are hot?" conversation that he quickly shut down because it was a bunch of thirteen-year-olds being gross and pervy. I responded with "ok then, what cars do you think are hot?" and got yelled at in front of a bunch of my classmates and told to go to sleep.
Looking back, the takeaways were:
- We were incapable of making a distinction between talking about an entire gender and talking about inanimate masse objects and whenever my thoughts get too icky, I remember that confrontation and wonder how I would feel as the object of a Mandingo conversation. - My dad really wanted to get some sleep that night.
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
Also can someone point out to Mr. Winkie that specifically excluding attractive women is just as problematic as explicitly perving over them?
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
^
― Heyman (crüt), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know this dude but it reads like he just wanted to focus on people who weren't uncanny valley.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
oh winkiepaws
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
you've been on fire since you got married, dude
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
<333333 CHRIS
― maura, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
I'm gonna put it out there: if you like it, you can take it; if you don't, send it right back: Who is the sexiest woman on this board?
― mookieproof, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
i have no clue how this sort of blog industry works or what, but the "don't blame me, i tried, blame editorial" excuse feels kinda weak on its face. could he have "tried" harder? is it possible to say to his editor "no, i don't want to / would prefer not to write that because it's gross" or were his hands tied and how firmly?
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
he probably had to pay rent
― 乒乓, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
Person who wrote the "i didnt want to do my job but they made me do my job" stuff gotta be next for the sack, right
― mister borges (darraghmac), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds from his account like he wrote a straightforward "these women are doing exciting things" listicle without referring to anyone's looks and then editorial turned it into... that, so the only way he could have tried harder would have been to say "no, I'm not writing that"
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i'd like to give the dude the benefit of the doubt, but obviously he knew what they wanted & expected when they assigned him that piece
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/kttykatie/status/315173787459014656
― markers, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
ayyyy
― Heyman (crüt), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
Happy Friday Winkie.
― tsrobodo, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
faced
― 乒乓, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
ha
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
lololol first u read: "Technology has been a boy's club for most of its existence. Just another unfortunate repercussion of the patriarchy. But that's been slowly changing, and over the last decade we've seen a number of wonderful, intelligent, and cunning women make inspiring strides in the field of technology. Through web development, social media, space exploration, and video game design, we see the world of tech becoming a more equal playing field. Here are 40 women we admire doing work in the field of innovation."
and then you click to the first person
― Mordy, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
can we change the subject? amazing writing here
http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2013/03/22/a-girl-cant-have-a-dick/
― goole, Friday, 22 March 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/luke_winkie/status/315189945876742145
― s.clover, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
When I was 13 years old, a bunch of people from my circle of friends, most whom were.13 year old girls, liked to play a game called The Penis Game. The Penis Game was you'd stand around in a circle saying the word penis. Each person had to say the word penis louder than the last person. The point was to get it loud enough to where a stranger would hear it. It didn't take a lot for this group to say penis loud enough to hear it on the next floor or whatever. I was profoundly embarrassed by the Penis Game and would usually go hide in like, Sam Goody when it started. I was pretty unfun for a 13-year-old, I guess.
― how's life, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp was JUST gonna post that
― i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 March 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
i remember ppl even playing the penis game like freshman year of college.
― s.clover, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
onion really should do one of these for women in tech:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-6-best-dresses-at-the-golden-globes,30897/
― s.clover, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
sam goody as a safe haven from penis could have helped them weather record industry downturn.
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
LOL. But was I being sexually harassed? Were the other mall patrons being sexually harassed?
― how's life, Friday, 22 March 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
Has the statute of limitations passEd for penis game victims?
― how's life, Friday, 22 March 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes you just want to duck into a place out of penis earshot and where you can also buy fugazi CDs for $15.99
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 22 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
Can I play the penis game now? Or would it be all "Sir,you're going to have to come with us."
― how's life, Friday, 22 March 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
Might be fun to try on a date: "so, do you want to play the penis game?" You friday night single okcupid people can have that one. Let me know how you do!
― how's life, Saturday, 23 March 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
― Mordy
oh god please let a wave of sexy russian women make philology a thing again
― j., Saturday, 23 March 2013 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
that is my prayer
ok I guess nobody really wants to revisit the PyCon thing again but since the Amanda Blum article was posted upthread I thought I'd post this one too:
http://www.technologywoman.com/2013/03/24/digging-beneath-the-surface-that-amanda-blum-article-on-adria-richards-is-not-what-it-seems/
also uh this sounds totally lame but I only just now saw a picture of Adria Richards after reading the entire controversy with images turned off (why bcz at work) and realised that you were actually all telling me off for whitesplaining the other day when I thought I was being told off for mansplaining while not being a man, so apologies to everyone concerned
certainly there was some element of unwarranted splaining in my posts
― susuwatari teenage riot (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 25 March 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
i want to move to white plains, ny and write a letter to an advice column and sign it "whitesplaining in white plains"
― veryupsetmom (harbl), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
plain whites whitesplain whitesplainin in white plains, new york
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
i read a very depressing shitty article on this stuff from someone and thought better than to post it here. the only striking thing to me is that it was well designed, well written, well argued, and still i just wanted to beat the crap out of it with a cluebat. the worst thing is when this stuff doesn't come from obvious mouthbreathers but people that by all impressions seem to have the mental facilities to know way better. natch there was discussion of dawkins, and that whole controversy, etc.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
otoh i posted on one of my feeds an interesting nyrb article on galileo and was shocked to find someone I known from STEM circles weighing in with an 'its complicated' defense of the catholic church, so the ability of people to disappoint me is unflagging.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
What this entire Adria Richards situation really highlights is that a lot of people feel like everyone else around them should be able to read their minds and know that they don't really mean it when they say stupid shit, and they will bend over backwards with ludicrously stupid arguments in order to protect this inalienable right to say stupid shit that may offend other people. Basically, unless you are In The Tribe, you don't deserve any sympathy, and there are a bunch of idiots out there fooling themselves into thinking they are In The Tribe.
― Darth Icky (DJP), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
Reminds me of the time when I got sacked for objecting to a manager's idea of team-building: whenever a new hire got a first sale, we'd have to stop so the manager could announce '[X] has lost their [retailer redacted] virginity!' Then we were expected to cheer while the manager rang a special bell.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Lol, aps, I didn't know she was a POC either! Anyway, still don't care about her outing them on twitter, still don't disagree with a single thing she did.
― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of people feel like everyone else around them should be able to read their minds and know that they don't really mean it when they say stupid shit, and they will bend over backwards with ludicrously stupid arguments in order to protect this inalienable right to say stupid shit that may offend other people.
well yes, privilege very often means that you feel the freedom to decide the meaning of words in context and whether the are offensive or not
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
Then we were expected to cheer while the manager rang a special bell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNqSHaiMzvA
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LiAaDN2bsA
― s.clover, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
who do i have to oppress to get into the tribe
― i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
anyone
― mister borges (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
c'mere
― i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link