"Any quarter-decent three-chord knobheads could and did get a deal in the ’90s." POLL

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Think they fall short of the quarter-decent requirement

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 22 March 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

Ride, obviously. Wasn't a massive Salad fan at the time, but their singles do still stand up. Chapterhouse/Cud/Curve/Adorable/Kingmaker I kind of think of as being from the era previous, but I don't know if that's just me? Not all good, obv (though I was a 12-yr-old Kingmaker fan, I confess).

emil.y, Friday, 22 March 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link

Chorus:
Hey dude
Don't lean on me man
Cause I'm losing my direction
And I can't understand, no no
Hey dude
Well I do what I can
But you treat me like a woman
When I feel like a man

^ these guys were being ironic right?

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:02 (eleven years ago) link

Adorable for "Homeboy"

Gukbe, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link

xpost to emil.y -

If Chapterhouse etc are a previous era, then so are Ride surely, esp since they predate some of those!

Ride were basically shit by the time the other bands were around.

At some point in my life I have owned things by 12 of these bands :(

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link

It was quite fashionable at the time to diss Salad because their singer was a) female and good looking and b) an MTV presenter but I liked them. Their 2nd album was a bit of a let down though.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

Crispy Mills was many things but ironic was not one.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway, I voted for Ride, even though, after the second album, they were exactly the kind of "quarter-decent three-chord knobheads" RW is moaning about.

The frequency with which Slight Return by The Bluetones pops up on 6music does my head in and makes me think it's some kind of NHS prescription for sad sack 30-somethings. Like me.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

Col Poo, yes, Ride count as the previous era too, sorry, that really wasn't clear on my part. Salad don't, obviously.

emil.y, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:17 (eleven years ago) link

I prefer Drugstore to Salad but I guess it's purely the 'foreign female singer' thing that makes them comparable.

emil.y, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:19 (eleven years ago) link

At some point in my life I have owned things by 12 of these bands :(

Hmm, good point, I shall go count up:

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link

Right, my definition here is "Things", i.e. more than one single/album by the artist listed.

Two.

(Menswear (2 singles, one album) and Sleeper(most of their stuff) )...

I'll rep for one other, "Dark Entries" by Echobelly, that were good that..

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link

HI DERE!

i'm not really here, obv, but:

Crispian Mills directed a film with simon pegg in, the early interviews for which entirely failed to mention Peela Tater

Symposium featured young polish lads, not finnish one of whom is now in Thee Faction with Billy Reeves from the audience.

Menswe@r (call them by their name) drummer Matt everett is now the music news guy on 6music

ride and hurricane #1 gtrist andy bell was is oasis and is now in beady eye

pearl from powder is now best known for being Daisy Lowe's mum

any more questions? *britpop face*

CarsmileSteve, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

Back to Rob:

NOW THIS WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF WHAT WAS BRITPOP AND MAINSTREAM INDIE.

RECORD COMPANIES DON'T/DIDN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO GAMBLE?

I THINK NOT …

ANY QUARTER-DECENT 3 CHORD KNOBHEADS COULD AND DID GET A DEAL IN THE 90'S ….

I wouldn't have thought signing 1/4 decent 3chord knowbeds in the age of Oasis and Blur was much of a gamble, we're not talking CabVolt are we?

As long as those bands sold slightly more value than they cost, and could get dropped before the balance sheet got too claret, what gamble are we thinking of?

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link

I have tried searching for some of the more distinctively named minor members of these groups and disappointingly they all seem to be on linkedin and doing respectable music-related jobs.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

Things mostly meant singles there but I did have albums by some of these.

In retrospect I'm most embarrassed about owning an album and 2 singles by the Bluetones. That can only really be explained by peer pressure I guess. I didn't even like them then, I saw them twice in 1995 and they were shit both times. But some of my friends liked them. I dunno, the follies of youth.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'd much rather listen to a Bluetones record than the lumpen laddishness of a lot of these twats.

emil.y, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

Probably didn't have anything by the laddish bands, maybe one or two depending on which count as laddish.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 22 March 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

xp co-sign. First album is p decent if you can ignore all the "New Stone Roses" nonsense.

Neil S, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

Tell you what, if any of those record labels signed one of those type bands now, that'd be a gamble..

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

The anti-Robbie Williams

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/mar/21/devendra-banhart-i-love-britpop

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

Also Johnny Dean from Menswe@r had this to say:

http://nuisanceclub.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/god-bless-johnny-dean/

CarsmileSteve, Friday, 22 March 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

Is it fair to say you're a Britpop fan?

It's very fair to say. I love almost every Britpop band. I'm going deep here.

Including Shed Seven?

Sure, sure.

Really?

To be honest, no.

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

xxxp What I meant by "the last blowout" was financial. There were a lot of landfill bands, and he music was probably worse on balance, but there weren't the same torrents of cash behind them as there were in the 90s. Labels were already feeling the pinch.

Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

that may be the greatest thing I have ever seen Devendra Banhart say

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

Dev would love Shed 7 if he heard them. Willing to gamble on this. Especially 'At The Link' or whatever it was.

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

pretty dumb question tho Is it fair to say you're a Britpop fan? as if it were controversial somehow to like some rock music that was v popular in the mid 90s. He also collects headshots of TLC, some SWV and some En Vogue. Perhaps he liked those bands at the same time omg.

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

xpost -- Let us gauge reactions. How does this make you feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbpVJYh4V_s

As for it being a pretty dumb question, he was in the US rather than the UK, I thought? So it was a little more out of step there.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

The Bluetones were regularly playing shitty pubs in Lewisham a couple of years back, amazing they plugged away for so long. Cautionary tale of what happens when you don't split up at the right time, even the reformed Ultrasound* were probably playing bigger venues.

*Speaking of bands with way too much money thrown at them.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link

The Bluetones' commercial success waned after the fall of the Britpop movement, yet they continued to tour and release new records and were therefore often labelled as "Britpop survivors".

The band's final album A New Athens was released on 31 May 2010.

The band split on 1 October 2011 following a farewell tour which ended with a concert in Osaka, Japan.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

I'm trying to imagine any of that.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link

Man their entire Wikipedia biography reads like a fake band dreamed up by a bad author for a book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bluetones

The second album, Return To The Last Chance Saloon, was released in 1998. While failing to generate the commercial success of their debut, it did spawn hits in the form of "Solomon Bites the Worm" and "If...".

Whilst many of their mid 1990s peers had disbanded by 2000, The Bluetones released their third album, Science & Nature, which again reached the Top 10 and featured the hit singles "Keep the Home Fires Burning" and "Autophilia".

After releasing a best-of album in 2002, the band followed up with Luxembourg, an album which received mixed reviews.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

all i remember from the mid-late 90s is dave grohl and johnny depp constantly praising britpop bands, paul whitehouse, black pudding etc. but n/m

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link

Gorblimey.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Madlib time:

Mark G, Is it fair to say you're a Britpop fan?

http://www.dogsandbabieslearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/no.jpg

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link

Northern Oproar

nashwan, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link

Further investigation into the Bluetones turns up this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Morriss

Which mentions him once headlining this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeeStock_Music_Festival

Which is to be headlined this year by Toploader and Space. Man alive.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

Good grief, last year's festival!

It was also revealed that Mark Morriss and Nigel Clark of Dodgy would be returning, this time joined by hit-selling D:Ream and American rock group Wheatus. The acoustic stage was headlined by Nick Howard who went on to win that year's The Voice of Germany.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2wlFZ4hZkFA/Tox0RR9kWxI/AAAAAAAAAR4/DFUYj6raDyw/s320/leon.jpg

So for those people who don't know, explain how the first incarnation of Northern Uproar came to an end in the 90's and what followed.

Well, let's see... things are a bit blurred. After the deal with Heavenly cane to an end we had a pretty big tax debt to pay... that took a while. We did another tour of Japan and started demo's for the 3rd album. It was a struggle to keep our studio goin though... So with some regret we downsized for a while and some of us thought we'd try a 'real' job (laughs). I was a hairdresser for a while, slashed a few ears i can tell you... Customers were terrified so i had to pack it in! (laughs).

I spent a few years in Spain performing with my uncles and my cousin Noel, learnt a LOT of new tricks playing the Catalan rhumba and singing in Spanish... A real eye opener. I love Spain and Catalonia and i usually spend half my year over there . I love the lifestyle and the food. Anyway, that kept me busy for a few years and i got the bug for loud rock'n'roll again.

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

Underrated band that Catalonia

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

Dodgy are playing here in a couple of months. I've written to my councillor.

Easter Humphreys (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

Where is Geir to defend Dodgy's honor?

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sort of gutted i dropped my 1992 display name a day early

Easter Humphreys (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 March 2013 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

Nice of robbie to look through his record collection . He must regret jumping on the britpop bandwagon... oh wait it helped sell him shitloads I guess hes now jumped again to pop (after his swing album) When does his punk influenced album come out?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

He did "making plans for Nigel" back in his day..

(b-side of "Old before I die")

Mark G, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Is LeeStock a festival entirely run for people called Lee? Wow.

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hang on; from the wiki:

The festival raises money for the Willow Foundation, a national charity that gives special days to seriously ill young adults.

Insert tasteless joke about ex-Britpoppers being "seriously ill young adults".

they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link

Completely unrelated but this comment on Robbie's follow-up 'Thank you Brett' post, without me knowing any context, is some kind of astounding rant:


I really wasn't going to go
by scrummy mummy - 22 Mar 2013 - 2:00pm

I really wasn't going to go there... but you know what @Birdless' post got me thinking too... because I'm always me too. Slightly irreverant, often sarcastic, trying my best to be humourous and attempting to diffuse the tensions from time to time.... Well THAT worked well :( I was taught that if I'd done something wrong to apologise and to always stand up for myself... @Frieda. WOW! Is that all you took from my post? Seriously? You took that massive jump and got to there from ONE LINE?? Do you know me? Have we actually met? Have you checked the contents of my fridge and bathroom cabinets this morning? Do you actually know what I choose to feed my child and husband? I'm more than aware of my responsibilities to the planet thank you very much. Which one are you on? As a family we more than offset our carbon footprint annually. MORE than. Nestle? I was protesting about their promotion of formula milk to mothers in the Third World YEARS ago if it interests you in any way at all... None of that GM Monsanta shit will ever enter my family's food chain... I would have answered your questions if you had any but you were too busy TELLING me who I am and jumping to some pretty massive conclusions about me instead. Happy to set you straight. My blog was about how brilliant Rob is and how shitty and stupid this endless round of argument is... Don't get your hemp knickers in a twist... I ALWAYS intend for any of my posts to be read tongue very firmly in cheek. It's the hypocrisy of those who choose to ram their highbrow standards down my throat to prove their point that gets me. I'm only here... don't SHOUT IT. I was making the point in reference to music and likened it to food snobbery, but made it clear - there's a place for it all... Did I say it was a trend? No. Organic, fair trade and even the mass produced... my point was it's all FUCKING chocolate. It's called a METAPHOR.... Give me strength... I'm a lot of things, but ignorant and small minded is a label you'll NEVER be able to hang on me. Earth Song??? I was at the Brits the year Jarvis Cocker stormed the bloody stage... @Ono I'll have one of those hugs please... Is Mercury in retrograde? Is the moon up Uranus? Because this place has gone utterly and stark raving mad..... Rob, I make no apologies for what I posted. it was supposed to celebrate you and your all round fucking fabulousness.... and I'd like to think you know me by now. If I've offended anyone else in what I have said then I am genuinely sorry, but thank you for letting ME be ME. I don't have to or intend take that level of crap from anyone, but I'll not mention it here any more... Am done. Happy Friday folks... :) Here's a bit of fairy dust for you all.......... (lovingly created by tiny little computer pixies...No child labour involved whatseover) + . + + . . * + . + * . ** + * * . + * .*. * + * * . + * .*. +* + * * . + * .*. * + * * . + * .*.* + * * . + * .*. * + * * . + * .*.* + * * . + * .*. * + * * . + * .*.* + * * . + * .*.* + * * . + * .*. * + * * . + * .*.* + * * . + * .*.* + * * . + * .*. * + * * . + * .*.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

MONSANTA

Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Appearing with Nivea at the club

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 March 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

OK, Kula Shaker strong showing was a little surprising tbh.

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

suspect that for others as well as me, the 1st album is massive guilty pleasure ...

mark e, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Some acquaintances started saying 'kula shaker' for 'cool' around that time; for me that ruined them forever.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 March 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3LyVPa2gE

piscesx, Friday, 29 March 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

"the first time i did Heroin was with Elastica.. " "alex james is the bassist in Blur. my nan could do that" and "here's another song by Damon Albarn, Connection by Elastica."

he likes a laugh and a joke this lad.

piscesx, Friday, 29 March 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link


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