New Burial album. More info?

this would actually go really great with some illbient

Hahaha -- Mackro to thread.

what do people think of the skull disco comp?

It's a little same-y over the course of a full disc, but taken in small doses, I think it's fairly astounding. In some ways, it's even creepier and more evil sounding than Untrue. And the standout track -- Blood On My Hands -- is, in many ways, the most daring and edgy work of art I've seen or heard about 09.11 (both the original and the 18 minute Villalobos version).(n.1)

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(n.1) To be clear, the fact that it's daring or edgy doesn't make it morally defensible. If I'm hearing it right, the song is about a political radical's contemporaneous reaction to the 09.11 attacks. The narrorator doesn't sound shocked or sad or troubled or morally conflicted; the attacks don't make him re-evaluate his radicalism. Instead, his droning lyric -- "When I see the towers fall . . . fall . . . fall . . . fall" -- sounds removed and sinister.

Anyway, maybe that's just what I'm hearing. It's also possible the song is written from a different perspective, one more sympathetic to 09.11's victims. It just doesn't sound like that to my ears, and there is another song on the disc called "Hamas Rules," and so forth. Still, a very powerful piece, which is even more striking to me inasmuch as it's the only art I've seen about the actual 09.11 incident (as opposed to the broader "Global War on Terrorism" or the Iraq War) that isn't very obviously pro-American and patriotic.

Gah. Every time I re-read something I've posted, I cringe at how stupid it sounds. My apologies. Also, FWIW, I'm Jewish and not the least bit sympathetic to the 09.11 terrorists.

seems those no life uber geeks over at dissensus still cant stop talking about me even though i been banned from there for an age...

...hahaha suck balls guys. Don't make me spam your wack board

living/being in NZ and only having music as a therapeutic hobby is about as good as it gets...

...ask Mala, he wants to move here cos us polynesians are just so fucking cool and laid back

so while those dissensus clowns keep talking about it, codifying and gentrifying it , i'll just keep it real and make/do/say whatever the fuck i like just cos i can and don't you fuckers wish you could too...

...as for my obsession with breaks ???... fuck yeah it's all about breakbeats. Ask oris jay or zed bias. I started out as B boy, now can you guess what the B stood for ??? and what if anything is jungle but breakbeat culture. try double timing a 70 bpm halfstep beat and see what that gets ya ???

ill advised racially motivated name ???... fuck yeah, i cant stand poxy elitist pommy wankers and pilled out nu age cracka ass american crackas most of which find dissensus as a haven. Those cunts can only wish they were coloured.

piss poor self promotion ???... fuck yeah haha, if only i wanted to be taken seriously as a muso or artist, but the thing is i got so much going on in my life i just cant dedicate full time to it. If i did i'd show alot of peoples lame noodlings up as, well lame noodlings i suppose

...as for burial. I do like the hyperdub grafikery and a couple of tunes depending how blazed i am and where i am but the boxcutter album is better WAY BETTER

I'd take Enigma's "The Sadeness" over anything by Burial. And my feelings on "The Sadeness" are well documented on ILM.

Every time I re-read something I've posted, I cringe at how stupid it sounds. My apologies. Also, FWIW, I'm Jewish and not the least bit sympathetic to the 09.11 terrorists.

a jewish apologist...am I the only one who finds that funny ???

I try to live by a code of no apologies, no thank yous and no excuses

...you really shouldn't give a toss what or how stupid anything you say on the net cos is there is always something and someone stupider...heh

so what if a bunch of people you will probabaly never meet nor give the time of day to in real life think you're common ???

...who the fuck you trying to impress ???

btw i wonder if there isn't always a certain need people have, for an album like this (ghost cannibalization of older surer musics, at a sort of above the merry-go-round of modernity remove LET'S SAY) at this exact stage of every decade? yknow, this random desultory phase where people dont know what the big optimistic groundswell is and aren't finding themselves getting caught up in anything. it just seems so much like the clamour about pole all over again, from where i'm sitting.

or maybe the question should be not that the need exists, but that the one album always seems to get made? i wonder what the 80s equivalent was, if there was one. perhaps people werent yet po-mo enough by that point.

visage_fade to grey

"so while those dissensus clowns keep talking about it, codifying and gentrifying it , i'll just keep it real and make/do/say whatever the fuck i like just cos i can and don't you fuckers wish you could too...

-- pollywog"

haha. and to think that i thought this place was better than that one.

martin clark in particular needs to step off my jock. i remember him arguing around march 06 about burial's first (as of then not yet released) album being on vinyl:

"Since Burial's drums aren't in time (they're hand built in Soundforge and not sequenced), beatmixing from vinyl is fairly pointless ...!"

"There's gonna be no vinyl release. given the unsequenced drum structure and high cost of vinyl, there's no point really"

"tom

perhaps you'd care to fund the vinyl pressing personally then? ;)"

if only i wasnt a broke student, i should have taken him up on that offer and cleaned house. even the people who are supposed to know what is up with this music don't know shit. suckers.

pussies

^^^^hardman.

also, u say 'my jock' and 'suckers' too much.

Maybe they're in love.

Please consult http://www2.b3ta.com/images/tailpipe.jpg

Which one of you is the car, BTW?

well then, you "fine gentlemen" need to step off "my johnson". better?

"Which one of you is the car, BTW?

-- John Justen"

the one that isn't your dad

http://www.craphound.com/images/hellokittymuffler.jpg

i think that pipecocks parents need to adjust their netnanny settings

bored. done.

"Which one of you is the car, BTW?

-- John Justen"

the one that isn't your dad

-- pipecock, Thursday, November 22, 2007 3:40 AM (2 minutes ago)

I am kind of amused, however, that this implies that you are getting violated by my dad.

could you tell him to please knock that shit the fuck off, then?

u_u

we have a 10-80 out here, a truck on fire. we have a man on the lift. we are unable to find the switch to turn the lift off and we can't stop the dancing chicken. send an electrician. we're standing by.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/swa0367l.jpg

http://www.epsilonminus.com/darquedungeon/dd_7.gif

I'm sorta half-drunk, so I think I'm best-equipped to say some of the things need saying around here:

(1) ok west coast, what is it with hot girls and breaks? it rips me apart inside. these girls should be at house nights.

(2) i saw burial fucking santa claus

(3) http://wizznutzz.com/images/nocioni_mascots.jpg

At the risk of sounding a bit purple (like nearly every review of his music, I mean why do some people go on a bizarre evening course type creating writing trip when it comes to this guy?), the first Burial album was a real punch in the gut and made me excited about music in general again for the first time in years. I was (and still am) completely sold on the whole future-dub-dread-dynamic, which brings me to wonder why there was so much hate for the Spaceape track, offend some fluffy idm sensibilities did it?.

Listening to it again recently I realised that my favorite tracks are the more d&b inflicted ones. Maybe I'm secretly hankering after him to either do a straight up d&b album or something more spatial and miminal like the Cyrus album (probably my favorite album of the year). I dunno, I'm just freeforming here. On Untrue he's definately running the risk of attempting to stamp his identity on other areas like UKG (which was deployed with much more subtle effect on the first album) whilst wiping out the heavy dread dynamic that made his stuff so interesting in the first place. People should cut him some slack though, he's only about 25, 26 I think and Untrue sounds to me like a teary love letter to one genre, or sub-genre, getting it off his chest and moving on.

That said, I think it's a pretty good album and demonstrates soemone coming into their own quite rapidly ("Shell of Light is especially good). Mind you, "Stairwell" (off the Kode9 Sonar mix) blows most of Untrue out of the water. Maybe that's what the ealier comment about the alledged "High-Tech darkside album" was referring to. Fuck, I hope he makes it.

Lukas so not OTM about #1 but completely OTM on #2 and #3

I'm not all about a breakz revival or anything, but enough house + breaks love hits the right spot(s) mutually.

Lukas! You can HARNESS THA HAUTENESS of that hot breakz girl in ways other than pretending you like DJ Icey, yknow.

ugh fuck breaks girls

i remember at a RAW + mictlan show a 90 lb white girl with dreadlocks, a sublime beanie and a wifebeater yelling "YO SELECTOR, PLEASE BRING IT RUFF RUGGED AND RAW" during a breakdown

wiggiest scene ever

"ugh fuck breaks girls

i remember at a RAW + mictlan show a 90 lb white girl with dreadlocks, a sublime beanie and a wifebeater yelling "YO SELECTOR, PLEASE BRING IT RUFF RUGGED AND RAW" during a breakdown

wiggiest scene ever

-- moonship journey to baja"

sounds painful.

I roffled.

"we MUST have images on this blog"

Not much love in the comments there...

Posted by: mizrubull old dude on November 23, 2007 7:00 PM:
"I know nothing about this gear but i do have a moby cd (play) and burial sounds like an out and out ripoff of Moby. And nowhere near as good as the original either."

I'm addicted to the journey into an alternate world that I never become familiar with, that has a narcotic euphoric effect, each time I go further into the mystery.
I'm addicted to the journey into an alternate world that I never become familiar with, that has a narcotic euphoric effect, each time I go further into the mystery.
I'm addicted to the journey into an alternate world that I never become familiar with, that has a narcotic euphoric effect, each time I go further into the mystery.
I'm addicted to the journey into an alternate world that I never become familiar with, that has a narcotic euphoric effect, each time I go further into the mystery.

Aren't we all.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/BlueGauze/9530e482701475488f995f27662af4ee173.jpg

I'm addicted to the journey into an alternate world that I never become familiar with, that has a narcotic euphoric effect, each time I go further into the mystery.

I'm addicted to the journey into an alternate world that I never become familiar with, that has a narcotic euphoric effect, each time I go further into the mystery.

ain't no mystery...

...you're just a retard and don't know it

Breaking news. A picture of Burial has been found.

http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/weblogs/music/archives/IMG_1760.JPG

He seems so soulful.

He looks a bit like C/-\lum R0b3rt W$dd3ll

The ultimate revenge.

Actually I could see Burial soundtracking a Uwe Boll movie during the creepy disco sequences.

Is that really Burial?

"It sounds straight outta 1998, when trip hop, drum n bass, and goddamn illbient were all swirling around in the air."

haha. it does. but we all love our retro culture.

Burial/Untrue are to Tricky/Photek/Urban Tribe what early-mid '80s ECM albums are to In a Silent Way/Bitches Brew/Weather Report

I can't tell because of the nasal disguise. Why don't you mail that picture to kode9 and ask him? (Xxpost)

"Burial/Untrue are to Tricky/Photek/Urban Tribe what early-mid '80s ECM albums are to In a Silent Way/Bitches Brew/Weather Report

-- Andy K"

least OTM analogy ever.

Actually you just confirmed its OTMness beyond all description. We thank you.

"Actually you just confirmed its OTMness beyond all description. We thank you.

-- Ned Raggett"

yeah because burial is so clean and overproduced just like ECM records are. it is spot on if you have no ears and no brain. which i guess sums up most of ilx. good point!

I know Andy K. Andy K. is a friend of mine. You, sir, are no Andy K.

The admittedly not-thought-out and over-generalized analogy has much more to do with chronology than production values. The basic roots, the time between releases, and that some of the ECM releases had picked up on other things along the line, just as there were developments from Maxinquaye through Burial. (Which makes Untrue = Power Spot [but not quite]?)

StanM: the nasal disguise is too good and would probably fool kode9 himself.