yep
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
my favourite terrible JT lyric will always be "you're out of this world except you're not green"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
oh god there's so so many of them
on bubba sparxxx's "hootenanny" he says "i could go #1 ten times" and idk how you sing that line without immediately thinking about piss
or the entirety of his "i can't believe it remix" -- stupid lyrics are kinda the point of that song, but still
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the image of justin timberlake with a blue dick is a regrettable one
JT's lyrics have been bad more often than they've been good and I generally just ignore them.
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
i have actually never thought this. THX J0RDAN -_-
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
I don't care for the biographical glossing but it's one of my favorite negative reviews (the cursive line is a scream).
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
even "walkin' on the beach our toes in the sand" is silly. Where else would your toes be?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
you can get pebble beaches
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
I've been trying to lalalala in my head through the strawberry bubblegum metaphor but it doesn't work and ugggh
I like the song but RUINED 4 eva
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
generally I like him when his natural dorkiness ("She's freaky and she knows it!") overcomes his hamfisted attempts at suavity.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
I mean he's got a song with the hook DAMN GIRL DAMN GIRL DAMN GIRL
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
that also features will.i.am
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
it worked for Shaggy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
did it?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
my favorite timberlake lyrics are all on "shades"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
xpost well, okay no
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
and i agree with alfred about how his dorkiness overcoming his hamfistedness = his strongest lyrical moments, but i don't mind the pure hamfisted suave bro either; it doesn't exactly get in the way
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
it's a dialectic, right? He's a believable suave fuck cuz he's a dork.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
lmao @ blueberry lollipop http://i.imgur.com/l6bFsnS.jpg
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
I like the album; don't LOVE it...but I think it's mostly because it wants to slip into the background all the time. It's a lot less attention-grabbing than I expected.
also I've been listening to Miguel for like 2 weeks straight and so poor JT def suffers in comparison to that.
but there's some nice high spots. I like the way the first 2 tracks work together.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
the guy also wrote a complaint in song about us bitching about the ice around his neck
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
i think maybe an ultimate failure of "suit & tie" is that rap verses on timberlake singles (clipse, t.i.) have been smooth in a real and effective way ("at the mall kids ask how the chain glow / point at her say, wow that's the same glow / point to me, i say yeah that's the same dough") which helps play up timberlake's endearing goofiness. jay-z is just as bumbling on "suit & tie" tho.
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
blueberry lollipopme = gasface
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
Yep. Nothing worse than a purported suave dude not noticing the mud puddle.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
revisited the "suit & tie" video today and it's way appropriate that jay's performing his verse while sitting down, like guy is gonna straight up nap at any time during this verse
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
"get out your seat, hov"
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
h to the zzzzz o
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
He's a believable suave fuck cuz he's a dork.
word
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 20, 2013 6:24 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
hah I kind of hear an inverse - like jay is rapping "this is truffle season / time for tuxedos for no reason", tryna deliver a real michelin 3-star verse, but jt is singing "so thick i now know why they call it a fatty"
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
has jay had a good verse on like anything in years? i can't really remember one
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
he has a handful of genuinely good verses on 'watch the throne'
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
his stuff on "otis", "niggas in paris" and "gotta have it" is all pretty great
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
uggghhh that fatty line
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
xp wellllllll.....
― i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
i think jay's awesome on "suit and tie"
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
^
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
"wait does "katherine" here = kt st. a?"
yeah that's me. so:
- re: the biographical criticism stuff, probably could've gone into more detail on that (but it was toward the end and I'd already blown way, way past my word count). the thing is I've read a lot of reviews with tossed-off statements like "you can really sense how happy Justin Timberlake is after marrying Jessica Biel, this album is like a wedding gift" (no shots, I'm paraphrasing, I've read so many reviews I've forgotten who wrote what), and it seems... weirdly hollow. like, I kind of feel like if you did a side-by-side comparison of the amount critics cared about Justin Timberlake's marriage to Jessica Biel, or really about Jessica Biel at all, before and after this album, the bar graph would be pretty skewed.
I can see why they're in there, though; the album's pretty clearly trying to do the thing where the artist bakes whatever biographical details are available into the album, as branding (sigh) and to give it more oomph (more gravitas or more buzziness, depending on who it is; compare this to, say, Unapologetic. same idea, different outcomes.) take Beyonce's recent... thing; the only way it works is if you care about Beyonce as a public figure and her marriage to Jay-Z as a public thing, otherwise a line like "don't think I'm just his little wife" comes off like, I dunno, a chopped-and-screwed Nellie McKay song? and I think Timberlake's trying to do the same thing, but just taking it as a given that his marriage is a Sufficently Big Deal to elevate hismaterial. on "Mirrors," say, the difference between "self-indulgent and weirdly narcissistic song supposedly about love" and "paean to Justin Timberlake's newlywed bliss" is primarily whether you accept that biographical criticism.
- re: lyrics: I pretty consistently care more about them than most people, but even so the ones here are so bad they fall right past "ignorable" to "so bad they're actively distracting and break whatever spell might've happened." (it's not a coincidence that "Cry Me a River" and "What Goes Around" get so much praise; they're the ones without any stupid shit.) and again, if this is supposed to be a happy-marriage album it should, at minimum, evoke a marriage one might like to be in? right?
- re: robin thicke, I don't really have a strong opinion either way (haven't heard the new song); he exists, he's getting probably the right level of praise for what he does, good for him
― katherine, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of feel like if you did a side-by-side comparison of the amount critics cared about Justin Timberlake's marriage to Jessica Biel, or really about Jessica Biel at all, before and after this album, the bar graph would be pretty skewed.
otom
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
*otm rather
i honestly am still not 100% sure who jessica biel is or what she has been in or what she looks like
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
she's known for the wb
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
she was in stealth
― balls, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
she's known for not being the actress you think she is when you hear her name
(in my experience, anyway)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
she played lt. kara wade in stealth
― balls, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
or, actually, better (and blindingly obvious) example: "Cry Me a River" got so big in part because people thought "holy shit, this is about Britney Spears." it's a good song, but if you're a pop artist the difference between a good song and a classic song is often decided by stuff like that.
― katherine, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
sam shepard played capt. george cummings in stealth, does that help lex?
― balls, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol balls
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link