this jt album is way too long and directionless... *listens to goldenheart*
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.fascsafety.org/buckle1.jpg
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Tuesday, March 19, 2013 1:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
WAHAHAHHA
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
hyuk hyuk hyuk aren't you all amusing
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
IT COULD WORK THE OTHER WAY ROUND FYI
again, the outros are actually the best part of the album
also how is this a compliment
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
outros are ppl too
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
was talking to maura about this record earlier today and she characterized the outros (which she finds too numerous and long) as "funhouse mirror interpretations" which otm
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
in fact, it's rockist if i may say so, to value canonical song-parts like choruses and verses over outros
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
"funhouse mirror interpretations" which otm
in the stooges sense!
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
go tell that to someone who was saying that
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
i just told u
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:03 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
because it refutes the myth that they're aimless/unnecessary
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
i think "the outros are the best part" totally makes sense as a compliment bc the outros take the songs to complicated and distinct and surprising places
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i wasn't saying that
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
do you have short term memory loss?
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:03 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
if it can't be a compliment, then the outros being the best part surely must be a flaw
"the outro is the best part" implies that the main bit of the song is not as good
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
thread is starting to look like funhouse mirror
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
every song has a best part
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
tunnel vision itt
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
Sprawl seems kinda MBDTF influenced but a little more purposeful.
― Heez, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
i have had no compulsion whatsoever to ever hear this album again
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
have you heard "like i love you"? it's a good song.
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, March 19, 2013 10:22 AM Bookmark
I'd like to point out for the official record that the outro of "Like I Love You" is the best part.
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
An outro is the butt of a song so it's a compliment just like sayin damn look@the caboose on that timberlake song
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
Timberlake's caboose is pretty damn tight these days imo
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
mmhmmm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
just starting the album, pusher love girl is pretty nice
― i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
He's got an outro that just won't quit
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
a strange man asks you if you saw the outro on that one
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
it's weird that the length of the songs and intro/outros is such a big discussion point, since FutureSex had several songs in the 6-7 minute range and lots of outros and transitions, only real difference being they were denoted in the tracklist. this seems like just a mild and totally unsurprising step further in that direction.
― Stephen Thomas Duttywine (some dude), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
fs/ls had two songs out of twelve over seven minutes, 20/20 has seven out of ten over seven minutes. the combined run time of the first two singles from fs/ls was only thirty three seconds longer than the run time for 'mirrors' alone.
― balls, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 06:26 (eleven years ago) link
how many blockbuster pop albums of the past decade have multiple 7-minute songs though? FS/LS was already notable for lengthy song/suites is all i'm saying.
― Stephen Thomas Duttywine (some dude), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 06:33 (eleven years ago) link
and if you change it to 6-7 minute range it becomes 3 out of 12 for fs/ls (25%), 8 out of 10 for 20/20 (80%); this is w/ interludes/preludes/quaaludes folded in to fs/ls runtimes.
― balls, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 06:35 (eleven years ago) link
difference between two big epic attempts that possibly require/warrant long running time vs nearly every song drags on forever (if i asked you two longest songs on fs/ls the answers pretty easy to guess, whereas w/ 20/20 even 'blue ocean floor' goes long for whatever reason), even if there isn't a gesture toward epic. cf appetite for destruction vs use yr illusion, late registration vs mbdtf, though tbf the culprit doesn't seem to be cocaine or even ambition here, this feels more like the average runtimes on michael jackson tracks get longer each album, though to be fair to mj this is occurring w/ introduction of cds and it never gets as crazy out of hand as it has here.
― balls, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 06:49 (eleven years ago) link
it would be more interesting if this was JT's coke album rather than JT's brand-shoring, reverential and essentially uncreative crit-baiting move
no one complained about the FS/LS songs' length because it served the songs really well - each of the interludes is a narrative or sonic twist on the "main" song. on 20/20 it's just like oh you switched up the beat slightly and the song still has 2 minutes left to run, even the outros outstay their welcome! like cf terius switching up the beat of "fancy" at the last minute but ONLY FOR THIRTY SECONDS before the song ended and how amazing that was. or indeed "fancy" as a song which used every single bit of its epic length to incredible effect
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 08:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, these songs go on incessantly with fairly weak timbo outros. The core of most of the tracks are solid enough that I don't really care though.
― i petted a bodega cat today. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 08:10 (eleven years ago) link
each of the interludes is a narrative or sonic twist on the "main" song
to me this is an apt description of the 20/20 interludes except for maybe "pusher lover girl" and "don't hold the wall"
outros on futuresex are exactly "switched up the beat slightly and the song still has 2 minutes left to run," on both "lovestoned" and "what goes around," they also manage to be a narrative or sonic twist on the main song
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
new theory
outro=buttchorus=boobsverse= V or P depending on gender of the song
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:23 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Every song needs three things"
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't read the whole thread so idk if this has been floated already -but is it just me or does Spaceship Coupe sound like a 2:30AM song (ie the Samberg/timberlake duo)
I've listened to it a few times now and I'm convinced it was a discarded sketch that he dug up and sung straight
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
I have listened to the album a few times now and although there are many parts I still have to work out I like it a lot overall.the grooves, sounds, ambiances and feels are good."let the groove get in" is a monster and in my head a lot (and I even find the mood of "Ocean" beautiful !).the whole thing will certainly grow on me but for now it's already MUCH BETTER than I expected from JT, 7 years after FS/LS.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
Excellent videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuZE_IRwLNI
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
still doesn't make the song any better
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
wow i like this a lot!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
floria sigismondi going full-lynch, it's pretty compelling
jt's dance routine at the end is goofy as hell but endearingly so
nearly makes me like the song
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
"new theory
outro=buttchorus=boobsverse= V or P depending on gender of the song"
you know what this justin timberlake critical reception needed, MORE SEXISM
― katherine, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
the dance routine is def a little corny but I like the old-timey nostalgia-ness of it, like an awkward Astaire reference. It comes from a nice place
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
and I like the song!