2k13 what's the worst enormous tech company?

i mean sure google has lots of products but are any of them really meaningful, have they been successful doing popular new internet things like say social networking, andriod has been very profitable... for samsung, sick burn

google glass lmao my god nerds

The Microsoft Store is similar to the popular Apple Store concept, which has been largely successful.The concept aims to give a greater level of customer satisfaction by not only having sales staff but also employing "Technical Advisers" (similar to Apple's "Geniuses") to assist customers with technical questions and issues. In addition "Specialists" (or trainers) are employed to show customers how to get the most out of their software. Xbox 360s are also available to entertain patrons.

self driving cars will be a v big deal, but lots of other companies have been working on that stuff too, car companies for instance

http://blogs.technet.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-80-54-metablogapi/3201.event_5F00_11bostonStoreFeelIt_5F00_Page_5F00_3677CCFE.jpg

that looks so fun

Google announcing dropping support for CalDEV is making me think I should stop relying on their products before they close them off too.

just as long as they keep google plus i DEPEND on it

hmm i guess google's only revolutionary products are search, maps, and gmail and those are all kinda old, i agree that unless they find the next amazing data application to make consumer-friendly they're gonna turn into clowns, maybe they already have with glass. feel like reeder is a jumping the shark moment maybe.

they might not have created YouTube but owning it is non-trivial

yeah i mean all those things search, maps, gmail, youtube are good for what google is good at, selling lil text ads, and all of them are basically commodified or quickly on their way at this point

google has the most popular mobile operating system in the world and they havent figured out how to make money off it, mostly because its harder to put lil text ads on tiny screens

they should just focus on the mapping stuff and get with the government, then they would be more evil

they don't have to make money off it anytime soon and dominating the phone market has lots of hard to measure benefits when you are collecting all the information in the world etc. also isn't patent stuff really at the core of why they lose money w/ it?

i bet the government has some really nice drone maps already, but maybe google could sell them info on what people are searching for like jihad or gun control or w/e then the gov could drone them, they could even automate it

worst enormous tech company, not which one you glare at the most from yr desktop, looking at u, lag∞n

he's not a tech company

tho lagoon would be a good name for one

no I meant he's a desktop

they don't have to make money off it anytime soon and dominating the phone market has lots of hard to measure benefits when you are collecting all the information in the world etc. also isn't patent stuff really at the core of why they lose money w/ it?

― iatee, Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:12 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah idk i feel like the collect the info then turn the money faucet on theory sounds like it makes sense but im not sure when its actually happened, at least not on the scale that a company like google requires, and they dont make money on android cause they give it away for free, and the reason its popular is cause they give it away for free, the really weird part of the equation to me is that its open source so any phone company can just fuck w it as they please and google doesnt even get any of that valuable info, this describes p much all the andriod phones being sold in china right now

the only thing thats keeping google collecting that info is that their services are good and its easiest for the handset makers, but like what if samsung signed a deal w microsoft to use their services instead, it could easily happen and where is google then, just making something for their competitors to make money off of

guys i can be a desktop and an enormous tech company, i contain multitudes

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/LagoonAmusementParkLogo.png

okay with u spying on me fyi

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easily google or facebook, although microsoft recently patented this

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-patent-uses-kinect-and-mobile-cameras-to-count-people-in-your-living-room-2012-11

people buy new phones all the time so I def agree that their market share could collapse quickly but at the end of the day how many companies out there have the $ to put themselves into that position just in case it becomes worthwhile.

iirc there was some kinect related patent to read your face/mood so they could display ads for happy people or something like that

xp

android is def v interesting for them but it also seems particularly fraught

the only thing thats keeping google collecting that info is that their services are good and its easiest for the handset makers, but like what if samsung signed a deal w microsoft to use their services instead, it could easily happen and where is google then, just making something for their competitors to make money off of

― lag∞n, Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:19 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw to be clear what i was trying say here was not samsung switching to microsofts operating system but rather keeping android and turning all the google stuff email maps etc off which is fairly trivial to do, chinese companies do this now since a lot of google stuff is blocked in china anyway, obvs this is only possible because android is open source

isn't ilx hosted on amazon

― iatee, Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:31 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

~$ dig +short ilxor.com
184.73.174.86
$ dig +short -x 184.73.174.86
ec2-184-73-174-86.compute-1.amazonaws.com

also we pay amazon using google ad money

also SAP is less worst than Oracle simply because SAP doesn't own Java

ilxor.com is obvs the worst enormous tech company

search, maps, and mail were all done decently before google. google was just a bit faster and less irritating at all of them.

oracle's acquisition of first mysql and then sun gave it the ability to damage a much vaster swath of the tech world with its shitty practices.

p sure ilxor is a Java Tomcat application

search was def not done decently before google, mail neither

the upside is this is all open-source-ish stuff and everyone is just sort of walking away from them, so the disruption isn't necessarily long term.

the only big advantage gmail had for me over the also-rans was that you could get pop/smtp for free.

altavista and co were thoroughly... adequate.

gmails big advantage was functionally unlimited storage - and all the pre google search engines were terrible the entire internet was made up of huge keyword paragraphs!

gmail wasnt nearly as revelatory as search but it was still better

gmail's true advantage was that it was cool and exclusive and linked to a very popular company

does no one remember having to delete messages cause yr inbox was full ffs people

companies charging for or just not offering forwarding!

lock in!

spam remember spam

you are all so spoiled, forgot where you came from

i bet the government has some really nice drone maps already, but maybe google could sell them info on what people are searching for like jihad or gun control or w/e then the gov could drone them, they could even automate it

― lag∞n, Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:13 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol point taken, at the end of the day google really is a company for consumers and the money there is in ads or devices. i still think there's something about how good they've gotten at massaging a lot of data to fill a need, maybe they can sell that skill to other need contexts with a different kind of money in them, or maybe there are other companies in those contexts who are actually doing the equivalent or better but don't gain anything from being visible to the general public.

xp yeah unlimited storage was a huge deal (and still is imo)

man 'people just need more free space' was so not the dominant narrative, it was 'are you cool enough to have received an invite to this exclusive new thing'

i agree that googles data skills/cache could conceivably lead to new huge money (the internet of things?) but i just dont see them doing it cause theyre a mature company w an existing business to tend to, also even w/o that inertia its just really hard to hit it big twice, its v rare to do it once

man 'people just need more free space' was so not the dominant narrative, it was 'are you cool enough to have received an invite to this exclusive new thing'

― iatee, Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh this is just the nerd story, i mean it was opened to the public and then lots of people who had no idea still switched cause it was better, i mean having some buzz helps but if the products not better no one is going to bother to change

i only cared because 10 gb but i was a nerd (lol xp). it's true that past a certain point people don't actually care about unlimited storage, they just want to not have to do the deleting themselves and want it to look pretty (hence Facebook)

no, it only feels like this is his second term