Does anyone REALLY like My Bloody Valentine?

(I assume you mean tuneless). WTF? It is gloriously tuneful! Try 'Come in Alone' for starters - how can you not hear the tune(s)? Ok, they're presented in an unusual way, but SURELY you can't be serious? TUNELESS? Pah!

I presume you've had those moments...and I presume when you're describing them to others, you're not defending but explaining rapture. Just a little something to keep in mind.

Still, it's a great record though, isn't it? Now listening to 'Off Your Face' from the 'Glider' 12". Giddying, effervescent.

'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up'

Must try this.

I tried that and it didn't work. Was it 'cuz I replaced the Tizer with malt liquor, or because I was drinking it though a Crazee-Twisty-Straw. Plus is made the blood rush to wrong head.

This is probably the truest thing I've ever read on ILM.

Me, too. I don't much bother listening to MBV at home, but my most intense gig moment EVER was MBV at the Ritz in Manchester in '92 or '93. The tweeters blew, our ribcages vibrated disturbingly, and a good deal of plaster was shaken from the ceiling. I was utterly transported, better than drugs.

*I* give a toss about the bass. Drums'n'bass are the most important parts of modern music IMHO, and they are the weekest bits BY FAR of this record, which makes it odd that Loveless is my favorite album. Plodding, static drums and dull bass playing sit lamely next to the fantastic melodies, harmonies and textures. A bit of funk to reinforce the wash would be bliss.

I was musing the other day that I love the album so much because my mind is filling in what the rhythm section (well, actually Kevin Shields - I believe he programmed the drums and played the bass) should have done . Isn't Anything is so much more fascinating from a rhythmic perspective, and You Made Me Realise is a step above even that - (ROCKIST ALERT) maybe it's because they recorded as an actual band for these records.

Primus suxxors BTW.

Could we please have an edit text function for all us pedants?.

Loveless is hands-down one of the best records I have ever heard in my whole sad life. I don't mind your not liking it, Robert, but I must admit that it wounds me in some deep and irrational way when you call it "bollocks" and "shite" (not least of all because such slang is irritating to my American ears).

And besides, since you hate this record and I love it so very much, I wonder about perhaps a fundamental difference in the way we hear music. You know the old saw about "does everyone see the color orange the same way?" Based on this evidence, I would have to say no.

Unless of course your copy of the album was a misprint, and you ended up with The Future Sound of London's The Isness by mistake. In that case, I completely agree with you.

I say all this as someone who isn't a huge fan or anything and I don't listen to the album much. While it isn't necessarily native territory for me, I don't find it difficult in the way I find, say, Sonic Youth (who are native territory, sort of) difficult.

Or am I being reductive and missing something?

You know what's probably the best song OF ALL TIME, yet never gets much of a mention, even among MBV fans?

"What you want".

Also, Soon is nice and everything, but it's bugging me how it (and "Only Shallow", I suppose) has become the default MBV song recommendation. It's one of my least favorites on Loveless.

My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes for strings and electronics

*intrigued*

feed me with your kiss VS when you wake you're still in a dream

and also are there songs that are better played at earsplitting volume? if there are just point me that way

Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder

Sometimes is their indiest number - proper mumblecore - but good way to get some punters in.

Not that I'm going as I think this is MORALLY wrong

"Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder"

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That's exactly what I thought... maybe correctly?

I had a feeling that might happen