"Pop Punk"

TOO LATE, INFIDEL!

All this tepid crap -- Alien Ant Farm, Sum 41, Blink 182, Good fuckin' Charlotte, Avril Lavigne, Less Than Jake, Simple Plan, New Found Glory, etc.... are all as abjectly meaningless as the Trains, Matchbox 20s, Seven Mary Threes, Marcy Playgounds, Verve Pipes and Vertical Horizons. Likewise the Stainds, Disturbeds, Colds, Ademas, Salivas, P.O.D.s and Linkin Parks....

.....IT'S ALL CRAP!

All this tepid crap -- Alien Ant Farm, Sum 41, Blink 182, Good fuckin'
Charlotte, Avril Lavigne, Less Than Jake, Simple Plan, New Found Glory,
etc.... are all as abjectly meaningless as the Trains, Matchbox 20s, Seven
Mary Threes, Marcy Playgounds, Verve Pipes and Vertical Horizons. Likewise
the Stainds, Disturbeds, Colds, Ademas, Salivas, P.O.D.s and Linkin
Parks....

.....IT'S ALL CRAP!

WHAT ABOUT VINES, HIVES, ETC

i am really digging the emo-pop (as opposed to punk-pop) lately. there is basically a whole new crop of bands that realized that the foo fighters' "everlong" was 1 million X more important than "smells like teen spirit".

and the goo-goo dolls mid-era stuff like "so far away".

I think my main problem with this stuff is in the production: There's not much of a historical reference point for the "sound" of the Backstreet Boys, so we just accept that "this type of music is, by nature, brutally overproduced and shiny"; whereas, with something attempting a "punk" sound, something with that much gloss is going to sound silly next to the tough and raw historical precedent set by bands like the Dead Boys, Ramones, et. al.

i think the only reason i like the weakerthans is because it reminds me of propagandhi's softer moments.

?!?!?!?!?!!!???????

Revis sounds like Creed listened to Hum.

KJ = old band

Fuckin' WATCH THAT, Junior!

could NOT

Let's go down to Mrs. Gooches for some apricots

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MUSTARD GAS

Yeah, Jay, I'm not saying that's all the stuff is, just that ... trying to think of a way to put it. You know how high-school pop-punk bands can turn any moderately simple pop song into a punk cover by having punk drumming and playing the guitar chords as muted, distorted clicks? There's this basis of few-chords simple-melody pop it works from -- same goes for plenty of Belle and Sebastian or whoever -- which I don't think is super-difficult to assemble (hence high-school punk bands) but takes a lot to make work right.

I mean, every American rock kid I know learned to play by being in a band like this. You get the equipment. You write a song with a few chords and a catchy melody; probably you try to write funny lyrics. Everybody plays eighth notes. If things are going badly you yell "G!" before the bar that's on G, etc. As you get better you all start doing basic tricks and variations. And if you can do this with loads of grace and form, you might wind up playing "All the Small Things."

Oh, wow, that's funny on more than one level. It all comes full circle!

And yea, I agree with Jon. ALTHOUGH, I'm The One is, arguably, a GREAT song.

(Or maybe I'm just being defensive. Jaymc: I'm a genius because I can play pop-punk! Nabisco: It's really just three chords. Jaymc: It's more than that! *cries*)

too much sugar rots your teeth, balance is the key.

I think the Hard-Ons are pop punk and everyone else can gtfo

^^dont remember posting that.

recently remembered 'pop and disorderly' by Limp which came out in 97. I just downloaded it, It's pretty good!

This Sdekicks album is p enjoyable

it's all right. last few songs are very good

amazing thread

(mostly the sidekicks record just made me really want to listen to the cymbals eat guitars album from last year, not that they necessarily sound alike, though maybe there's a case to be made for the former being pop-punk/indie and the latter being indie/emo)

Wondering how any serious journalist or pundit tricked into promoting the Iraq War lives with the knowledge they were less skeptical of an international conflict than the tracklist for Rock Against Bush pic.twitter.com/fWtxKtZVps

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You wrote for The New York Times and were further behind the curve than Sum 41

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