The game's out there, and it's play or get played. The Wire characters poll. That simple.

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Actually, hang on - more seriously, NONE of the new characters from season 4 are there. I might vote for Duquan if I was voting for the Wire character I feel most for.

Alba, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Why is Leander Sydnor such a non-character?

Alba, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I hear you Oily, but your expectations of realness evidently differ from mine -- which includes superheroes! Even without knowing that conspicuously colorful characters like Mouzzone have real-life analogues, I take those guys as a given in the show's landscape; from a strict dramatic POV, they might violate certain rules of verisimilitude, but when I'm watching, all other aspects of the show, and even the other characters, lend and suffuse Mouzzone, Omar, et al with realness. Maybe not as "real" as, say, Royce, but I don't notice how out of place they are, dramatically speaking.

Leee, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm sure someone will cry about the Season 4 kids not being included but it won't be me.

It was me!

Alba, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw, I really like Cutty too. I'd never vote for him, but I might rank him in my top 5. It's tough though - could I really put him above Bunk, Omar, McNulty, Bubs, Carcetti, Landsman, Stringer, D, Slim Charles? Fuck. I even like Rawls - his delivery of those asshole lines is impeccable.

I'm not even sure what criteria I'm going to vote on. Omar is probably the coolest character but Stringer and Carcetti might be my favorite dramatically. Slim Charles is probably my favorite more *secondary* character (if there is such a thing) based on his delivery alone. "He do look natural."

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Also missing are Bird and Stinkum (not that anyone would vote for them), and that Fruit guy that works for Marlo. I really hate that guy for some reason - maybe because he fucked Cutty over on the package.

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

You're right, Lee, that my objections (minor as they are) to Omar and Mouzone pretty much disappear when those guys are actually on screen. When I'm watching the show I get totally sucked in, it's only with hindsight that they strike me as a bit hinky.

I love this show so much.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 10 November 2007 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

that Fruit guy that works for Marlo. I really hate that guy for some reason - maybe because he fucked Cutty over on the package.

OTM!!!

Rawls is the truth, even if he's living a lie.

Also missing, Terri D'Agostino and her VA-VA-VAVOOM.

I gotta say, I never really felt String. ;_;

Oily, hugz!

Leee, Saturday, 10 November 2007 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Mouzone is one of the worst characters. There's not a convincing bone in his characterological body.

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link

> that Fruit guy that works for Marlo. I really hate that guy for some reason - maybe because he fucked Cutty over on the package.

SPIOLARZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

S.4 will be very good to you.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 10 November 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Mouzone is kind of like Brain from Pinky and the Brain. But less funny.

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

GUYS! Bernard's girlfriend from season 3. She was GOLD in EVERY SCENE SHE WAS IN!

from nagging to dropping empty crisp bags in the street. awesome.

Gukbe, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

LOL GHETTO!!!

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually I guess she's more like LOL BALLBUSTER than anything. But still, I find her to be kind of a lazily written easy laugh character. I guess she's kind of a plot device though.

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:30 (sixteen years ago) link

constant nagging leads to bernard's purchase of tapped burners, yeah i'd say that's a plot device.

tehresa, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, exactly

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I had to pick Omar, mostly because he's just magic to watch. i agree with the 'superhero' comments though, and i always play down how much i like him when i discuss this show with friends.

seasons 3 and 4 made me like Bunny the best, so he's my second choice. i also love any scene with Clay Davis in it.

Mouzone was like the worst thing about The Wire. it was more like the Sopranos than The Wire whenever he was on screen (much love to the sopranos, but i don't want sopranos in my wire any more than i want ketchup on my pancakes). i guess the same could be said for omar, though.

rockapads, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Clay Davis is great too. Such a classic weasel. I especially love the scenes with him and Stringer, and the way he says "String"

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

guyz bubbles connects it all

ok maybe not all, but he sure knows a lotta people!

tehresa, Saturday, 10 November 2007 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i think what i like about bodie is that he embodies the fatalism of the show. (which the season 4 kids do too, obviously.) he's not a boss, not a cop, didn't really seek anything out, just did what there was to do. his moral compass, such as it is, is stuck on a sort of useless loyalty to people and a place that have never really done shit for him. he's not dumb, not smart enough for it to do him any good, and his sense of possibility is inevitably limited by his circumstances. to the extent he's aware of that, he accepts it as just the way things are. and he's right, because that's the way things are.

tipsy mothra, Saturday, 10 November 2007 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

McNulty's definitely my favorite because he's a sad-sack loser, but never abandons his morals when trying to topple the Baltimore drug trade. Of course, he doesn't give a flying fuck about morals in a any other situation.

Bunk is great too, but I've long been disappointed that his character doesn't play a bigger role in the show. He was much more prominent at the beginning of Season One, but began to fade after that.

Herc is pretty great for comic relief, and Stringer is just pure evil menace. Avon is nice because he can be evil and loveable at the same time.

Moodles, Saturday, 10 November 2007 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Very well put tipsy.

I actually wound up voting for D'Angelo. He feels trapped and resentful but is only semi-aware of the extent to which he feels it. The same thing that has given him as much power as he has -- his family connection -- has also kept him from achieving more because it's made him soft; he didn't have to fight to get where he is and he'll always be the baby. The fact that he takes so long to get dressed is a great character detail - he has a veneer of pride but a core of insecurity and indecisiveness.

He has slow-witted moments, but there are plenty of scenes that betray his intelligence - he's smart, just not sharp.

Also I find the fancy restaurant scene heartbreaking (in part because it's exactly how I feel in expensive restaurants). "Do you think they know?"

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I always like Daniels the most for some reason. Came close the voting for D'Angelo too--love the Great Gatsby scene.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Saturday, 10 November 2007 08:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i loved d'angelo. after his demise, you want namond to break free from the game sooo badly. i think that's why i also loved wallace so much. but damn, i still can't vote! this is way too hard!

tehresa, Saturday, 10 November 2007 08:27 (sixteen years ago) link

He was much more prominent at the beginning of Season One, but began to fade after that.

He does go after Omar in Season 3. I think he's a pretty crucial measuring stick to gauge how McNulty's self-centeredness is ruining everyone else's lives. And this (badly paraphrased) exchange changed my life:

McNulty: Bunk, you know what they call guys who spend so much time thinking about their clothes?
Bunk: Yeah, adults.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 10 November 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Bunk's and Omar's paths crossing in S4=great. Their "Junior Bonner" tribute scene at the train tracks=magnificent.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 10 November 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE

Stringer Bell
Omar
Bunk
Bodie
Wee-Bey (the man cared about his fish and i feel that)
Cutty (heinous omission)
Snoop
Proposition Joe
Lester Freamon
Avon Barksdale
Wallace (seriously people wtf)
Jay Landsman
Herc
Slim Charles
Frank Sobotka
Rawls
D'Angelo
Bubbles
Marlo
'Clay' Davis
Pryzbylewski
Chris Partlow
Kima Greggs
Daniels
McNulty
Ellis Carver
Rhonda Pearlman
Tom Carcetti
Maj. Valchek
Burrell
Det. Leander Sydnor
"Poot"
Bunny
Royce
'Beadie' Russell
The Greek
Nick Sobotka
'Ziggy' Sobotka

strongohulkington, Saturday, 10 November 2007 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

GUYS! Bernard's girlfriend from season 3. She was GOLD in EVERY SCENE SHE WAS IN!

i totally wanted to fast forward every time she was on screen. i didn't do it, cause i knew i'd miss something crucial, but i really wanted to.

I think I actually ended up voting for D, though the Gatsby scene seemed really heavy-handed to me.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 10 November 2007 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^^^^+1 on the Gatsby scene

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The chess scene too, honestly.

But I love the "Ey mista nugget" speech.

Hurting 2, Saturday, 10 November 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Ziggy is the greatest fuckup character ever.

caek, Saturday, 10 November 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

exactly

Oilyrags, Saturday, 10 November 2007 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

damn I'd forgotten Bodie died.

stet, Saturday, 10 November 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

i figured this would be a toss-up between bodie and wee-bey but only strongo has even mentioned wee-bey!!? weird

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 11 November 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

he's not in it that much tho.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 11 November 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

no deacon, also no credibility

czn, Sunday, 11 November 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

wee-bey is pretty awesome.

tehresa, Sunday, 11 November 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't know if he comes back in 4, but I've always felt like Lester Freamon was a poorly utilized character. He's great in S1 but then becomes a caricature of himself.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

while omitting Brother M was a mistake-i never really took to him. he seemed out of place to me too. unnatural in a way,when set against everyone else in the wire.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:06 (sixteen years ago) link

nah he was ok because of his sidekick, you know, the guy who was always rolling his eyes like "there he goes again"

I also think there was much sad irony in what happened to d because on some level string and d were a lot alike.

ziggy was a great character but reminds me of people from college so it's hard to watch him without moderate to intense degree of embarrassment!

daria-g, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I also think there was much sad irony in what happened to d because on some level string and d were a lot alike.

But String is more calculating and more willing to do what he has to do in spite of any distaste for the ugly side of the game.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link

The first scene Ziggy is in, where he gets his willy out in the bar, is so otm for one of my college friends. I do not understand the Ziggy hate.

The scene where Brother M is ragging on his sidekick for getting the wrong magazines (something about The Nation or Atlantic Weekly?) is presumably supposed to be funny, but I didn't like it and it sums up what everyone is saying about him not really belonging in the show.

caek, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 09:55 (sixteen years ago) link

lester does come back fairly strong in s04, but when the carcetti story starts there's that much less space for the cops anyway.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 09:57 (sixteen years ago) link

brother mouzone is one incongruous mufuuuur… and that is what is GREAT about him

czn, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

First thought was Stringer, but chances are he'll get enough to win this anyway. So Frank Sabotka for me. I'm a sucker for that 'tragic flawed hero' thing.

Phil Will, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i still can not decide!

tehresa, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 12:19 (sixteen years ago) link

no one else going for bunk at all??? FOR SHAME!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Bunk is best when he's trying to set his pants on fire

kenan, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

or vomiting.

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

i figure bodie must have some huge role in season 4 otherwise he's way overrated

deej, Thursday, 22 November 2007 07:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i totally lied, it was daniels, not freamon. i should not post at 2am.

tehresa, Thursday, 22 November 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I didn't vote in this because I wasn't caught up (still not). But I just finished season 3 and omg I miss Stringer Bell! his death scene was perfect.

not entirely unrelated: is Idris Elba maybe the hottest man ever?

horseshoe, Thursday, 3 January 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i know i shouldn't be poking around wire threads when i haven't finished the series but still, argh i hate spoilers^^^

anyways, i'm almost finished w/ season 2 right now (brother mouzone just arrived), so these results seem weird. bodie? really? i take it he plays a bigger role as the show progresses.

also my favorites are obv affected by how far i am w/ the series.

bubbles was a season 1 favorite for me.

also daniels, seriously he is one of the best characters on the show, best cast, too

d'angelo & wallace, love them too and miss them

stringer, kima. kima got robbed on this

mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

also, omar's obv great but i think he was just hyped way too much for me before i started the series. i only started watching this show at the beginning of june but i had already heard so much about omar that w/ every appearance i expect so much. he is a great character tho

mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i enjoy the greek, serge, and vondas and all them but i have little to no affection for them. they're well-acted and well-cast but something about them still seems like standard 'foreign criminal' shit.

what i liked about season 1 was how sympathetic it made me feel towards the barksdale crew. obviously the sobotkas are more sympathetic but the series thus far hasn't pulled me into them the way it has w/ the barksdale crew.

mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

*meant that the sobotkas are more sympathetic than the greek et al, not more than the barksdale crew

mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

prop joe robbed

"I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Friday, 4 December 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Slim Charles 0

http://demongirl.org/pics/lolz/dood-why-u-gota-be-so-mean.jpg

mascara and pies (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 December 2009 09:40 (fourteen years ago) link


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