Magic: The Gathering C/D

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omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

8/8

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhlq_GhYGsM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_Judgment

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (6 years ago) Permalink

By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

-- Jordan, Monday, October 29, 2007 2:25 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i did this too ;_;

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

jordan is leading my parallel life i think

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

type I was all about DUAL LANDS right?
my best deck was mostly blue, counterspells, those djinns that only cost 3 that were misprinted green; then red & white & green sprinkled in also...black was fairly worthless.
i miss my magic cards!@!!

johnny crunch, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

black can be great if you play it right, especially with red or blue!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

i had a black/red deck for a long time but all my best cards were green/white so i tended to stick to that

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

my best deck was mostly blue, counterspells, those djinns that only cost 3 that were misprinted green

Now we're talking. Your mox sapphire alone would go for like $400 on eBay.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:20 (6 years ago) Permalink

i know! damn my 19 yr old self!!

cant remember what else was in it. maybe JUGGERNAUTS? the (actual) green djinn that was 4/5 and only cost 4 to cast? dunno...

johnny crunch, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

this dude, so bad ass:

http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?&id=1221

johnny crunch, Monday, 29 October 2007 20:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

MAGIC CARDS.

so we have three decks now.

blue/black: all counterspell, hymm to tourach, serendib efreet, dark ritual, sengir vampire, demonic tutor etc. brainstorms & frantic search.

green/white: standard ernham djinn/serra angel/armageddon deck with sol ring, dual lands, savannahs, giant growth, savannah lions & llanowar elves.

red/green: needs taigas. blood lust/giant growth/kird ape. plus fireballs & 'bolts, assorted creatures and creature enhancers with an eye towards quick playability. i think the red/green deck has the maze of ith. there are also lots of coin-flipping cards in this one, like bottle of suleiman, mana clash and mijae djinn.

ian, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 05:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

the blue/black deck also has some other kind of efreet that costs only 3 for a 4/4 flier, but the downside is that it lets the opponent draw three cards!!

ian, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 05:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Use that to cycle their deck

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 05:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

the blue/black deck also has some other kind of efreet that costs only 3 for a 4/4 flier, but the downside is that it lets the opponent draw three cards!!

-- ian, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:37 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Probably not worth it. If the main strategy of the deck is control through counters and discard it doesn't do a lot of good to give your opponent three cards to regain tempo/replenish their hand. Do you already have force spikes in there?

I need to sell my cards. Dual lands go for mad cash on eBay.

s. morris, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 06:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

i do think secondary mtg prices come more from perception and less from actual demand than people think

ciderpress, Monday, 20 October 2014 17:02 (4 days ago) Permalink

yeah i think the market is deeply distorted but its hard to exactly pinpoint why or speculate on where prices are going - i sold about 3K worth of cards two months ago and felt p good about it but i can see prices still climbing ::shrug::

i have no idea how standard prices are being justified though

≖_≖ (Lamp), Monday, 20 October 2014 17:48 (4 days ago) Permalink

standard is more demand-based than older formats

i think selling cards that aren't on the reserved list is always a fine move regardless of their trajectories, i've long wanted to unload a lot of my stuff but i'm waiting until i have decks built that i'm happy with in each format

ciderpress, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:03 (4 days ago) Permalink

I think in the case of Snaps everyone saw what happened with Dark Confidant and doesn't want to unload them at $15-20 when they're pretty clearly as pushed as that effect is likely to ever get

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 20 October 2014 18:06 (4 days ago) Permalink

yeah and snap is actually a 'better' card than bob at least insofar as it's playable in wayyy more decks. how many people really need bobs right now?

iatee, Monday, 20 October 2014 19:32 (4 days ago) Permalink

deathrite is a better card than both and never commanded $20+ price even when it was modern-legal, whereas snapcaster was $20 on day 1. hype cycles and price memory are a big part of it.

ciderpress, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:08 (4 days ago) Permalink

Frank Karsten's KTK draft article is out:

http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/frank-analysis-a-pick-order-list-for-khans-of-tarkir-draft/

Some interesting observations here. He thinks that blue is the best color (and U/G the best combo) and that black is the worst; IMO it's hardly a core-set level imbalance, and the fact that most decks are 3-color minimizes if one color isn't pulling its weight. Best common, all things considered: Mystic of the Hidden Way. I would still argue it's Debilitating Injury but I don't think black is as bad as he thinks it is.

Overall KTK has an awful lot to think about. It's not very much like RTR or Gatecrash or Alara where you try to hit your faction as hard as possible. I could write a whole article on a card like Force Away or Sultai Flayer since there is just such a depth to what the different clans do. I recently 3-0'd a draft with Sultai (though it only splashed blue for 3 cards) and it had only one card with Delve - it was sort of a Green/Black big toughness deck that won with Pine Walkers and Savage Punches. There's nothing like Populate or Battalion where a bunch of good cards chain together to produce something even better.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 24 October 2014 13:55 (1 hour ago) Permalink

a lot of karsten's observations were somewhat at odds with my own and that will definitely give me a different angle when i am drafting from now on, although i am not quite ready to throw out my own experience/instincts wholesale, by which i have managed to get up to a respectable win rate now. i did agree with him about u/g more or less. definitely if i do not have a strong early pull elsewhere i am looking for u/g because i have found it gives me the highest chance of not ending up with a garbage deck. so the upside is consistency rather than power, but you can do a lot of powerful things off of that consistent base, which can be sultai or temur obv, both are super solid, but the mana is there is do anything.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:48 (39 minutes ago) Permalink

and although i don't rate mystic of the hidden way as highly as he does, i would guess if i ranked the cards that have done the last points of damage to finish me of then mystic and direct damage spells would be way out on their own at the top of the list.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:51 (36 minutes ago) Permalink


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