2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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seriously, the dusky dukakis? the fuck?? is there some other interpretation to this beyond lol darkie cuz id like to hear it

and what, Monday, 22 September 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

plz c&p "dusky dukakis" graph so as i dont have to read the article

update prefs (ice crӕm), Monday, 22 September 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Why is Obama so vapid and hesitant and gutless? Why, to put it another way, does he risk going into political history as a dusky Dukakis? Well, after the self-imposed Jeremiah Wright nightmare, he can't afford any more militancy, or militant-sounding stuff, even if it might be justified. His other problems are self-inflicted or party-inflicted as well. He couldn't have picked a gifted Democratic woman as his running mate, because he couldn't have chosen a female who wasn't the ever-present Sen. Clinton, and so he handed the free gift of doing so to his Republican opponent (whose own choice has set up a screech from the liberals like nothing I have heard since the nomination of Clarence Thomas). So the unquantifiable yet important "atmospherics" of politics, with all their little X factors, belong at present to the other team.

^^ wtf does this even have to do with contrarianism?? oh lets wait 5 weeks for hitchens' take on the election which is exactly the same as everybody who posts on the nro blog

and what, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

well you could consider it contrarian in the sense that obama is obv winning the presidency as we speak

update prefs (ice crӕm), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

but yah "dusky" o_O

update prefs (ice crӕm), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i mean seriously, slate published it with that headline? wtf?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it is seriously bad enough that he's become utterly incomprehensible 80% of the time, there's no need to add any whiffs of racism to the mess, guys.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe they're trying to get rid of him

caek, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

ie been saying for a long time that his entire shtick is an ovb cry for help and everyone will feel bad when he finally kills himself

update prefs (ice crӕm), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think he's mobile enough to kill himself

caek, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

his entire shtick

That's not true: I'll defend most of his columns from the eighties through mid decade, his Orwell and Kissinger books, and whenever he turns his attention to literature. But what we are seeing is how contrarianism is always doomed to collapse.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

alfred why u always defending this beast

update prefs (ice crӕm), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll defend most of his columns from the eighties through mid decade, his Orwell and Kissinger books, and whenever he turns his attention to literature.

No, his literature reviews are pretty crazy, too:

Reviewing Roth’s Exit Ghost in these pages some months ago, I speculated that he sometimes urged his flagging prose along by giving himself something to jerk off about: in extremis, the very word panties was enough to bring young Alexander Portnoy to the sorry peak of yet another shuddering and solitary ejaculation. I lost count of the number of times Roth summoned the same magic term in this, the most hard-working and hard-worked passage of his latest book. So much effort, alas, for such scant effect.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/print/200810/hitchens-roth

Mr. Que, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Jury/witness selection for the Ted Stevens trial has begun

Powerful lawmakers on Stevens trial witness list
Several powerful senators and former Secretary of State Colin Powell are among possible witnesses at the corruption trial of Sen. Ted Stevens.

WASHINGTON —
Several powerful senators and former Secretary of State Colin Powell are among possible witnesses at the corruption trial of Sen. Ted Stevens.

Jury selection began Monday in the trial of the Alaska Republican. A federal judge listed dozens of people who might be called at the monthlong trial.

Among them are Democratic Sens. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Daniel Inoyue of Hawaii. Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah is also on the list, as is Powell.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

to my knowledge hitchens has never written about policy or economics

"goole" (goole), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

ahahahahaha "dusky dukakis" i think i have come around to kind of loving chris hitchens because wtf.

he was never any good, either, at writing or thinking.

horseshoe, Monday, 22 September 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

whirl of change sounds like snickers ice cream

Put big bows (or small) In you hair. (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 22 September 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

One Sweet Whirled is the Dave Matthews flavor of Ben N' Jerry's.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

http://wpcomics.washingtonpost.com/feature/08/09/09/po080909.gif
ARGLE BARGLE

and what, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

DAM'

Thal in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Monday, 22 September 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

...boxcar?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

"i will hate the gooks as long as i live" vs GLOOKA SLOBBER BLARTOGGER

and what, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

wonka burble

homosex quarterly (velko), Monday, 22 September 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

what does it mean when sarah palin says "fremme neppa venette"?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 22 September 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

it means Jesus told me to charge you $1000 for the rape kit

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

classy

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 September 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

GOD I HATE HER FLAMES ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE!!!

horseshoe, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

wha

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i hope that stays in the news as long as it can

Vichitravirya_XI, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

it's been all over blogs for weeks, glad to see it hit the MSM finally

akm, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Based on that CNN piece, it doesn't seem like the connection between Palin and the rape-kit policy has the legs for lots of coverage.

caek, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

even so I kinda wonder if/hope there will be a similar "Mr. Dukakis what if your wife were raped" question at the debates for her

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

"Mrs. Palin, what if your wife were raped?"
"Well, I would pray to God for strength-"
"LOL U GOT A GAY WIFE, BUSTED"

i am the small cat (HI DERE), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

"Governor, what would you do if the First Dude got pegged? Would you make him give you $1000 for admitting it?"

Radiant Flowering Crab (Rock Hardy), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

TRACK!

update prefs (ice crӕm), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"darky dukakis" vs http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/18/chicago-thug-urges-cult-followers-to-get-thuggish-too/

and what, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Based on that CNN piece, it doesn't seem like the connection between Palin and the rape-kit policy has the legs for lots of coverage.

there SHOULD be enough there to lambast her. i mean, either she was fully aware of this reprehensible policy and condoned it, which the majority of people are going to say is a very bad idea and discourages reporting crime in the highest rape-per-capita state in the union, OR she had no fucking idea what was going on in the town she purports she ran, making her a viable presidential candidate. which is it?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/1racecardo002.jpg

and what, Monday, 22 September 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

ick linking to michelle malkin btw, party foul.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 22 September 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

even so I kinda wonder if/hope there will be a similar "Mr. Dukakis what if your wife were raped" question at the debates for her

where's the story about how the campaign is basically dumbing down the VP debate format so she doesn't have to think? PLEASE SEND GUESS PAPERS FOR INTERMEDIATE OF PRESIDENCY AMERICA

El Tomboto, Monday, 22 September 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Mudflats has it:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/mccain-blinks-palin-not-ready-for-prime-time/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 September 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

funnies

press has totally turned on McCain now. Overplayed his hand with all that "let's cast Palin as the victim" crap.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 September 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

like I said, if you want the press to play nice, try not nominating the former local tv sports bimbo who took 5 years to get a journalism degree

El Tomboto, Monday, 22 September 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

nobody in the media besides David Brooks actually buys that Horatio Alger/Capra shit, John

El Tomboto, Monday, 22 September 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry if this was already posted by someone else and fell into the thread black-hole, but

Mark Buse, McCain's Chief of Staff = gay

well

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 22 September 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Something sweet about how they met at a Divine show and how dude partner's a trucker down in McCainland.

Kicker is whether dude will be asked to leave in light of Mccain's trying to get support from the crazies, or whether dude's corporate sponsorship links will prevent this.

Thal in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Monday, 22 September 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not asking for the Dems to go "haha hypocrisy". I'm just wondering how Buse feels about his job right now, especially since Palin entered the fray.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 22 September 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Buse feels about his job right now

Perhaps it hasn't changed much, as he knows he only has like 6 more weeks left to steal office supplies

Thal in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Monday, 22 September 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably for the "shit to prevent McCain election" thread, but if McCain or Palin play the anti-homo card, it would be quite easy for the Democrats to go "How can you say that when your Chief of Staff is gay? Do you not respect the work he's done for you?"... very little chance of McCain and Palin saying something in public that's anti-homo here on out, tho.

Mackro Mackro, Monday, 22 September 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably feels like as long as he's collecting a paycheck he doesn't give a shit same as the other log cabin republicans who've brown-nosed to Bush (or head the RNC.)

Alex in SF, Monday, 22 September 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link


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