Naw, it didn't read like that to me at all. Thought it was a better song live than on record, too.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 March 2013 06:39 (eleven years ago) link
Damn. What a dead-on Elton impersonation on SNL.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really see how the performance carried any more of that vibe than, say, the "Senorita" video, or any number of JT performances
― some dude, Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
I was listening to "suit&tie" this morning with the sun in the bus and it was very smooth.I really like that song now !
― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
The problem with "Mirrors" is that for most of its length it doesn't give you a place to land: it's all chorus and climax, and exhausting.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
lot of problems with "mirrors," but that's otm. i also think it's so overstuffed that it sounds unmixed
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
but also "suit & tie" is in my head at every station of my life now so who knows maybe one day it'll slip in
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
'let the groove in' on fallon is the best one i've heard so far. i haven't heard the studio record yet though, just these live versions.
― shit tie (Jordan), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
loved "suit and tie" on SNL, esp the choreography
― Plasmon, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
<i>it was like watching the climactic scene of a film where the plot is a white pop singer goes down to the carribean and saves a village by teaching it the joy of music</i>
well, yeah -- but it comes across on the album too. to be fair part of this might be the PR seeping in (but what ever isn't), but, like, not expecting much else from a Justin Timberlake song called "Let the Groove Get In" described as having "Latin beats." plus with timbo bringing back the whole "let's sample/'sample' Middle Eastern pop to sound ~*dangerous and exotic*~" early-'00s schtick...
― katherine, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
so is everybody coming around to loving suit and tie now? i was here first *ahem*
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind it, i.e. still a middling grade. Jay-Z gets a D- though.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
I've come around to Jay's verse. I like that it adds a more personal touch to the song.
― only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
it isn't the worst thing on the album but kanye is still correct
― katherine, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
i really like the breakdown that occurs prior to jay's verse
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
Don't mind Suit and Tie, just wished the album had it's own SexyBack.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
who hits the prince guitar solo 3:48 into "spaceship coupe"? damn
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 15 March 2013 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
Listening to "Strawberry Bubblegum" for the first time, on Fallon, right now. There is an influence from Stevie Wonder's "All Day Sucker" here.
There's also a career similarity, a similar personality as well, between Kobe Bryant and JT.
― Cunga, Friday, 15 March 2013 08:36 (eleven years ago) link
I hate to say it but I've had "mirrors"' chorus in my head since this morning...
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 15 March 2013 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
you're gonna have to expand on this one
― Darth Icky (DJP), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
the stretch from "don't hold the wall" to "let the groove in" is heavenly
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
is the sample on "tunnel vision" meant to sound like it's saying "i know she lies"?
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
it's a vocal sample going "i know you lie"
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's just weirdly at odds with the song's sentiment
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
yea other than like phenom @ a young age or something? i dont see a kobe/jt parallel @ all
― johnny crunch, Friday, 15 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
i thought it was "i know you like"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 March 2013 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think it's "i know you liii-i-ke it" now that i listen closer
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 15 March 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, fair enough. This was a drowsy night thought but when I thought about it the comparison held up.
Ages: Kobe is 34, Justin is 32Both have child-star or child-actor qualities. Kobe is the son of Joe "Jellybean" Bryant, a former LA Clipper. Since he was little he's been a basketball prodigy and grew up believing that he would be a super star one day. Justin was a child actor on the Disney Channel and has always had child-actor precociousness about him. Neither one stumbled on their career ambitions but both were raised, almost from birth, to excel in their fields.
Breakout year for both was 1996 (Kobe entered the NBA Draft, and 1996 was the first year NSync charted)
Both had a squeaky clean image that they abandoned. Kobe in 2003, after his rape case (previously he smiled for magazine covers -- now he scowled and got some tattoos). Timberlake tried, some might even say successfully, to act tougher and more like le bad boy circa 2002, with his album Justified. The Jackson Jackson half-time show nipple scandal -- a kind of rape (of the innocent).
They both "broke up the band" so they could finally receive all the glory for themselves. Kobe getting Shaq traded in 2004 so he could chase scoring titles (which he wouldn't have been able to do with O'Neal as a team-mater), and Justin in 2001 by going solo and ending N Sync.
Those are a bunch of side-by-side comparisons that are hard to disagree with, but I have criticisms that are obviously more subjective. Kobe and Justin's squeaky clean personas never fit either one of them. They're both incredibly hard workers whose ambitions were always greater than their talents (though they're both obv talented). Kobe should've played more like a SF earlier in his career rather than try to be like Jordan, a SG. Timberlake's on-screen presence is always bizarre and his comedy is always forced. Kobe is a ball hog, Justin is a camera hog. Kobe has his kind of hilarious "psychopath" face that he makes when things are getting intense out there, Justin has his male model lust face. Both are forced. Neither dude is ever subtle ("Call me the Black Mamba -- that's my new nickname")
And Kobe has done everything he can to make people compare him to Jordan. Timberlake wanted everyone to compare him to Michael Jackson. the effort was always obvious
― Cunga, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
To underscore Kobe Bryant's child-star personality: he has no conception of money. If you're his bodyguard, or in his Kobe posse, and you're hungry-- want to run into McDonalds -- Kobe will hand you a $100. "Kobe, I want an iPod" you'll ask, and he'll just hand you $100. "But Kobe, an iPod is worth $200-$400" and he'll just say "Oh, here you go," and give you three more Ben Franklin sheets.
― Cunga, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9QVNbUPzgM
― Cunga, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
timberlake is actually p capable @ comedy imo
i honestly dk abt how all n'sync ended but if jt's ego was involved or w/e then i truly think hes outgrown it & seems p well adjusted now
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln in a theater and hid in a warehouse, Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy from a warehouse and hid in a theater!
― only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of that conjecture about kobe is completely off-base fwiw.
― Clay, Saturday, 16 March 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
Assuming you guys don't want to hear my Chris Kirkpatrick-Derek Fisher analogies.
― Cunga, Saturday, 16 March 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
I just heard "let the groove in" : it's very good ! love the... groove !
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 16 March 2013 10:37 (eleven years ago) link
i enjoyed the last 'history of rap' on Fallon, mainly for JT doing "All Good Everything" with "don't believe me just watch jimmyjimmyjimmy"
― some dude, Saturday, 16 March 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
Uh, I don't think Nipplegate is comparable to rape.
― rallying against young people who wear hats (Nicole), Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Janet Jackson's nipple raped the minds of America's children.
― tsrobodo, Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
the hits medley on Fallon is fire. i love a huge, expensive, well-rehearsed pop band.
― shit tie (Jordan), Saturday, 16 March 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
Cry Me A River!
yeah that medley was awesome. Fully on the JT train now. Ignore my earlier statement re new album boringness - I am in lurve & On. Board.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 March 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
the horns sounded fantastic on some of those tracks
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 16 March 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that was a mighty backing band
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Why N Sync only spawned one star.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
JC was awesome when I saw him tour behind that album.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
that whole article should just be those 2 pictures and the caption "this is what JC's hair looked like when he launched his solo career"
― some dude, Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
lol otm
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
omg yes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
† ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) †1 day ago✞ Only God can judge me ✞
That's bullshit (yeah I'm addressing you and your fake accounts).
JC only never made it because he never made a pact with the new world order. All these illuminati filth enablers will rule the world, but will burn in hell. JC is better left out of this insidious industry, while his peer JT will have to sacrifice his love life (Britney) for his career (Cry me a river). This is truly a disgusting world †
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 16 March 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
This is truly a disgusting world †
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 March 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
Wow. It's not that I doubt Joey Fatone knows what he speaks of re: NWO, but you just wonder about the timing.
― Cunga, Saturday, 16 March 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link