the problem is simple: drum n bass. a problematic genre.
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
actually a proper mix of mbv guitars and Dn'B could have been something - but in practice I don't hear and bass just some muffled drums, buried under that annoying whirring sound
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really know drum n bass but i am pretty sure "wonder 2" is not the classical drum and bass track, maybe mbv's take on it.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
more drum less bass
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
There is nothing even remotely approaching drum n bass on this album.
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Can't we have 3EF and mbv?
Where 3EF's (brilliant) last album was a stunningly intense dark night of the soul, catharsis thru absolute tragedy etc, Wonder 2, while using a similar percussive set-up, is sheer ecstasy, glory-of-God shit. And it's all about the organ, rising and rising, rising a few semitones beyond what you'd expect, veering upwards as feedbacking guitars alternately struggle to keep pace or overshoot, and a wallowing distortion timbre charges in lustily during the instrumental parts in a vain attempt to anchor it all. I don't know about you but when I listen to that song I feel I'm perpetually falling forwards into space, the tension is how far it can go, how long it can keep expanding for
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
If I am
reminds me of 'Swallow'. Another hit for me
― Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
I am increasingly loving If I Am (but have already voted for Only Tomorrow)
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Good winner, but this Nothing Is 3:34 12 is mystifying
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
As someone who has maintained that the final third of the record is the best, having those three songs finish in the top 4 and receiving 43 votes to the 38 votes the rest of the disc garnered, this poll gives me a little validation.
So thanks, ILM.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
It is mystifying that different people like different things?
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link
aw, poor 'is this and yes', you grew on me a lot after a couple of listens
― c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
that was close. i must say that i relistened to "wonder 2" after imago's post and it started to grow on me. in the beginning besides the rather subdued drums i only heard the "whirring" sound and a cacophonous orchestral part which reminded me of modern classical music à la stockhausen and late talk talk. but i think there is much more in this song. maybe i cannot hear everything due to the bad quality of the mp3s. i have to try again.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
No, but mystifying that so many people found that their favourite track out of all of them. It's a bit like voting for that short whale song thing off Loveless (names ecapes me).
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
It seems there hasn't been a Loveless tracks poll...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
Best Song on "Loveless"
― nostormo, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 08:39 (eleven years ago) link
ah, it's those damn quotes again, makes it 'difficult' to search for.,
― Mark G, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 09:14 (eleven years ago) link
No, but mystifying that so many people found that their favourite track out of all of them.perhaps they were trolling
― sleepingsignal, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
not that i really care but 'if i am' was my fave
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
I rly care and I agree
― we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
This really does seem to get better and better with each listen
― the company of wome (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised to see Who Sees You ranked so low, that's the one that grabbed me first and the one I wind up going back to often. Best guitar work on the album imo
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
New You is definitely my favourite followed by In Another Way.
― pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder 2 just feels like an idea Kevin Shields has had lying around since 1997. Which might be true of quite a lot of this actually.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder 2 is a bit of a messy track in execution IMO.
― pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
Just posting up a bit of early Third Eye Foundation for comparison for those who don't know it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rIyiuQ5B0
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 14 March 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
Voted "Nothing Is" and definitely not trolling. Pleased it got so many votes. When I listened to the album through for the first time it was the only track that demanded to be heard again. Obviously the dark horse of the album.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
tbh I am somewhat surprised that anyone gunning for a My Bloody Valentine album in 2013 hasn't already heard Third Eye Foundation
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
You gotta be kidding.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I haven't
― Mark G, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I assumed they were a bigger deal then they actually were/are, I guess; I generally assume by the time I hear about any band everyone else is tired of them and has moved on
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
i've heard exactly one song by TEF.
― pssstttt, Hey you (dog latin), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
Think that later Third Eye Foundation once the guitars got ditched is generally better known too, and at that point any major similarity to MBV is lost
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
I remember being recommended TEF at the time but could not find any of their stuff in stores so I just forgot about it
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
I can remember quite a few acts trying that mbv/shoegaze meets dance thing in the late 90s, Acceleradeck and Chessie were a couple I remember liking quite a bit, although they were generally on the more drone end.
http://youtu.be/JnRI60H-Myg
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 March 2013 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
first TEF album Semtex is definitely essential listening for those who want to hear the shoegaze/jungle amalgam
― in 2013 we will all be yuppies from the 'eighties (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
this album is fucking amazing, of course
― reet pish (imago), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
ehh it's pretty good. i'm not bored of it yet.
― electricsound, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link
the middle run of tracks really does grow on ya
― reet pish (imago), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link
the first track became my favorite now
― nostormo, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
In Another Way gives me all sorts of crazy synaesthetic yearnings. I think it's one of the best songs of the last ten years. I didn't even vote for it here (because Wonder 2 is just as good)
― diarmuid o'gallus (imago), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
Wonder 2 is great but in another way beats it. Only tomorrow has no business being in the top 3 here.
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Friday, 1 November 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link
it does tbf, it's the 3rd best track
― diarmuid o'gallus (imago), Friday, 1 November 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link
Wonder 2 is the only song I skip on this (ok, besides the boring stereolab one), can't understand for the life,of me what people hear in that song. In another way & only tomorrow otoh are career highlights
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 1 November 2013 08:25 (ten years ago) link
New You is the only one I go back to.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Friday, 1 November 2013 09:17 (ten years ago) link
voted for IOW. still think it's the best song here.
She Found Now should be higher
― nostormo, Friday, 1 November 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
this will have been one of the great records of 2010-15
kevin shields is too much
― rahrah avis (imago), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 00:05 (eight years ago) link
I still haven't heard this!
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 00:51 (eight years ago) link
Wow "Is This and Yes" got 0 votes? I love that song! It's like a really really really chilled out Stereolab.
This album is great, I agree. Way better than it should have been.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 01:50 (eight years ago) link