ILX 70s album poll - results

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those contrarian pink flag blurbs=INEXCUSABLE!

Pink Flag Tago Mago and Low should've been 1, 2 and 3!


-- latebloomer: venting el pissyranto (posercore24...), April 22nd, 2005.

I posted what I could find, given that searching ILM is pretty slow at the best of times, and it is slowing putting the poll results up consideratly. If you don't like them, please find some more to your liking and post those here.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

23

points: 546
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 19

BRIAN ENO - HERE COME THE WARM JETS

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00022M518.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"Maybe it's the blistering solo in "Baby's on Fire", or the what the
fuck-ness inherent in the lyrics of song titled "Needles in the
Camel's Eye". Shit, maybe it's some perverted subconscious intrigue
in the golden showers imagery on the cover and in the buried vocals of
the title track. But probably it's just the brilliant songcraft, as
far as I can tell, unmatched by any other artist in an era when great
music was coming from all over the world. I didn't hear any Brian Eno
music until last year when I bought the remastered discs; now I'm
listening to Here Come the Warm Jets at least twice a week
religiously, something I don't see changing. Taking Tiger Mountain
and Another Green World are brilliant in their own right, but there's
something in HCTWJ, from the first time I heard it, that keeps it on a
level the other two just can't quite touch. I think it's the sound of
musical advancement that must have made it even more awesome to an
audience in 74. That the record still holds endless appeal to a
punk-ass American undergrad stuck at a shitty state school in central
Pennsylvania tells me that, beyond just being a seminal record for
genres like ambient, post-punk and new wave, it's still accessible and
still fucking awesome."


Jared

hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

(x-post: consideratly = considerably)

hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, no way is that album better than AGW. And Before and After Science is still yet to come, yes?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

a little conversation on the cover on my blog:

1. Isn't this the most horrid cover in the history of recorded music?

2. Wouldn't the still life without the framed photograph and without the "Eno" writing in rainbow colours be just about ok?

3. Doesn't Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle alias Brian Eno look like a certain Christa Päffgen from Cologne aka Nico on the photo?

place your comment!

nonightsweats, Thursday, 5. August 2004, 00:18
1. no, it's easily the best cover ever made.
2. no, it would make it worse.
3. yes, he does indeed.

when i first saw the cover i thought it was a band called End and didn't realize until later that it was the new Eno album i was desperately looking for.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

by the way there seem to be covers with different colour schemes. on mine the dry plant on the left is blue and "ENO" in the top left corner is in yellow and light blue with a pink three-dimensional relief shade.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

by the way there seem to be covers with different colour schemes. on mine the dry plant on the left is blue and "ENO" in the top left corner is in yellow and light blue with a pink three-dimensional relief shade.

to get an idea of one possible meaning of the title look closer at that small 8 of spades in the middle part below eno's framed portait with the policeman and the crouching woman. couldn't find a bigger image of that though i am sure it must be out there somewhere.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i hope hejira places high, but i wouldn't be surprised if it didn't place at all.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

hejira should either be top spot or not place at all. everything else is unacceptable. these bloody dichotomies always. stronger than me.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

by the way did keith jarrett's sun bear concerts get any votes, hobart?

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 22 April 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

no Fela Kuti?

jmeister (jmeister), Friday, 22 April 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Hobart, that was an excellent blurb on 'Blue'. i guess it was me and you had it as number 1? you have increased my confidence that everyone else is just plain wrong.

Lee F# (fsharp), Friday, 22 April 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

No love for Todd Rundgren. Bah! Oh well, I am gladdened to see I was quoted about Surf's Up. This is a great thread.

Deluxe (Damian), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe he will appear on the singles list.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Alternate Blue?

Alternate Blue, indeed... I didn't spot that when I posted the cover. I just thought it was a nice big picture of it. The one on Amazon looked sort of...grey...which defeats the point, really. I wonder what Alternate Blue can be.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 23 April 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

by the way did keith jarrett's sun bear concerts get any votes, hobart?

-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), April 22nd, 2005.

I'm afraid not, Alex.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

that's what i thought. it would have been my number one if i had voted...

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Is this going to continue over the weekend, or are you waiting until Monday to do the top 22?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted for Koln Concert if that helps. I haven't heard Sun Bear.

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

the köln concert is nice (maybe a little too nice) but the sun bear concerts are the real deal if you like jarrett's solo piano improvisations.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, here's what we have so far...

100. VA - Nuggets
99. New York Dolls - s/t
98. David Bowie - Heroes
97. Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
96. Bruce Springsteen - Darkness On the Edge of Town
95. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys
94. Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
93. Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach
92. Sparks - Kimono My House
91. Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan
90. Steely Dan - Countdown to Ecstacy
89. Sparks - No. 1 in Heaven
88. Can - Future Days
87. The B52s - The B52s
86. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome
85. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate
84. Iggy and the Stooges - Raw Power
83. The Slits - Cut
82. Nick Drake - Bryter Layter
81. The Beach Boys - Surf's Up
80. Neu! - Neu!
79. The Beatles - Let It Be
78. John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
77. Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
76. Big Star - Third
75. John Cale - Paris 1919
74. Donna Summer - On the Radio
73. Miles Davis - A Tribute to Jack Johnson
72. Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On
71. Parliament - The Mothership Connection
70. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)
69. VA - Saturday Night Fever
68. Wire - 154
67. Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
66. Led Zeppelin - IV
65. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
64. Big Star - #1 Record
63. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
62. David Bowie - Station to Station
61. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
60. Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
59. Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
58. Bob Dylan - The Basement Tapes
57. The Congos - Heart of the Congos
56. Fleetwood Mac - Rumors
55. Ornette Coleman - Dancing in Your Head
54. Richard and Linda Thompson - I Want To See the Bright Lights Tonight
53. David Bowie - Hunky Dory
52. The Fall - Dragnet
51. Neil Young - Tonight's the Night
50. Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
49. Roxy Music - Roxy Music
48. Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
47. Stevie Wonder - Talking Book
46. Suicide - First Album
45. Miles Davis - On the Corner
44. Curtis Mayfield - Superfly
43. Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians
42. Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food
41. Neil Young - On the Beach
40. Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
39. Wire - Chairs Missing
38. Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
37. Can - Ege Bamyesi
36. Brian Eno - Another Green World
35. Serge Gainbourg - Histoire Du Melody Nelson
34. Nick Drake - Pink Moon
33. Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
32. Neil Young - After the Goldrush
31. Big Star - Radio City
30. The Clash - The Clash
29. The Velvet Underground - Loaded
28. The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
27. Wire - Pink Flag
26. Can - Tago Mago
25. David Bowie - Low
24. Joni Mitchell - Blue
23. Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets

whenuweremine (whenuweremine), Saturday, 23 April 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

This is definitely better than the Pitchfork list so far. Less Floyd, for one thing. Though that might not last.

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

but i wouldn't consider a top 100 of the seventies complete without pink floyd. dark side of the moon has to be the one.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

btw it is Histoire de Melody Nelson

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 23 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Dammit, the seventies was arguably the greatest decade of African-American music, so I'm a bit disappointed by all this proto-indie stuff that's filling the list. But I guess a couple of albums are still to come up ("What's Going On", "There's a Riot Going On"), and the singles list is where, for obvious reasons, we should see a lot more black music.

Anyway, I'm a bit surprised too there's no Fela Kuti on the list at all (was anyhthing besides "Zombie" even nominated?). I guess he could still make it, but I'm kinda doubtful...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 24 April 2005 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link

For those who are comparing this list to Pitchfork's, I'm not sure where all the praise is coming from. There's a *lot* of overlap, and while they've got a bit more classic/FM rock (e.g. King Crimson, Randy Newman, Van Halen), we've got a bit more jazz and funk (albeit restricted to a small number of artists).

Then again, our #1 album isn't "Low", which counts for a lot, but the rest of the Pitchfork top 20 is pretty good.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 24 April 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

the pitchfork list was probably better. We've got all three Big Star albums, but they ddin't have LZIV IN THE FUCKING SIXTIES

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Sunday, 24 April 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

wait, wait, wai.. are the ramones about to COUP this shit?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link

This is definitely better than the Pitchfork list so far.

Any list where Pink Moon beats out Mothership Connection by 37 places is better than nothing, except maybe prostate cancer.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Sunday, 24 April 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

ahem.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

III and Houses Of The Holy should always place higher than IV. They're all worthy of inclusion, but I don't see why IV should always be given highest placement.

billstevejim, Monday, 25 April 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Agreed. The third album is brilliant, on most days my favorite...

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link

22

points: 564
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 20

THE RAMONES - THE RAMONES

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JGAB.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Wahayyy.

Our Alice took this album (along with McFly and Busted ones) to her last day at nursery.

I don't know if they played it at her leaving party...

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I was listening to the Ramones earlier, and I just thought they probably wouldn't care if Shania wore their T-Shirt or not. They are like 1,2,3,4, just get on with it.

-- jel -- (freeduni...), January 23rd, 2003.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

nevermind... No Rockets to Russia, i guess..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the reason the Ramones are held dearer than the likes of the Pistols and Clash is at least partly due to something I've rarely seen commented on, and which most of their fans are (probably) not really aware of: the extent to which they borrow, soundwise and imagewise, from early 60s girl groups. They've got more in common with the Crystals than AC/DC. This was always obscured by their "rawk, rawk, rawk!!!" trappings, but I think it's got a lot more to do with their lasting appeal than that ever did. They also borrow a lot from the Beatles - their name, obviously, but also Joey's fake-Liverpool accent - who also owed a lot to the Spector groups, so I guess the Ramones might have absorbed a lot of that through listening to the Beatles.

I could be projecting here, since the main reason I like the Ramones a lot has almost nothing to do with them being "punk legends" (yawn) and everything to do with their girlgroup style. The recent deaths do factor into this as well: once someone dies all sorts of not-entirely-thought-out feelings you had toward that person suddenly twist themselves inside out.

Also, I for one am very upset when I see the Slits maligned.

-- Justyn Dillingham (aubade8...), January 24th, 2003.

errr...let's have some posts about the band rather than about the album... well, they ARE interesting comments on the band, even if something more specific would be better. I'm sure there are lots of pertinent comments specific to this album out there, I'm just having trouble finding them.
I think Justyn is RIGHT.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link


The Ramones *WERE* a handful of magic beans, you fool!

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 28th, 2003.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Wahayyy.

Our Alice took this album (along with McFly and Busted ones) to her last day at nursery.

I don't know if they played it at her leaving party...

-- mark grout (mark.grou...), April 25th, 2005.

I'm just trying to imagine "Blitzkreig Bop" back to back with "Five Colours In Her Hair". Actually, at the risk of being flayed alive, it doesn't seem so terrible.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

21

points: 564
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 16

AL GREEN - CALL ME

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000240T5.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I made it through most of my life not knowing what the big deal was until a pal lent me Call Me which, yeah, is incredible drinking music, and seems to get better with age...

-- Pete Scholtes (pscholte...), April 6th, 2003.

I just got Call Me and I'm going bananas. For me the appeal of the 70s stuff I've heard is like 45% production, 35% Green's voice, 20% songs. The sound of those records, the drums, organ squelches, etc, fascinates me. I think of all the chillout/downtempo producers today & how in love they are with "atmosphere" & they never come close to that sound.

-- Mark (mar...), October 8th, 2003.
ooo listen to those snares...

-- amateurist (amateuris...), October 8th, 2003.

Al Green. As a pure singer he's the best-- eddie hurt (eddshur...)

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll attempt to put some more up over the next couple of days. Sorry for the break over the weekend, I didn't get any spare time.

I dug out a copy of Maggot Brain as a result of this poll. Can't believe I'd overlooked it. Its an immense album - I should have voted for it.

Next poll, maybe..

hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

III and Houses Of The Holy should always place higher than IV. They're all worthy of inclusion, but I don't see why IV should always be given highest placement.

Because with the possible exception of "The Battle of Evermore," IV is utterly perfect. III has moments of brilliance but a lot of weak spots as well, HOTH is fairly close but the overall quality level is prob. a bit lower.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 25 April 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link

20

points: 569
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 16

KRAFTWERK - THE MAN MACHINE

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000087HXO.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


This where Kraftwerk's style, image and theme find their ultimate
expression, The Man Machine is where the group's ideas are most fully
realised. Middle-European melancholy set in "Spacelab", futurism with
an old world touch. All six songs are perfect and beautiful, none of
them sound dated 27 years on. The robots that still define
Kraftwerk's image were introduced here, yet the men's eye for the
ladies in "The Model" shows the machines as human after all. This is
the international edition, in Germany the band released a German
language version. Oh my, the gentle kick drum that starts off "Neon
Lights" has just started while I type this. Oh, and there's that
synth line. I love this music so much.

JoB de wit

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 08:47 (nineteen years ago) link

god what a band

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago) link

19

points: 601
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 17

THE STOOGES - FUN HOUSE

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000005IU2.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Fun House is the greatest rock & roll record of all time. I feel sorry for people who can't understand that.
-- shemp (curl...), March 13th, 2005.

IT KNOCKS THE FUCKING WALLS DOWN?
-- Tim Ellison (timejeanne...), January 13th, 2005.

'Funhouse' is the only 'real' record. Everything else by [or with or whatever] Iggy Pop is very strange. Like, sort of cabaret music. Why? That is very strange to me. I don't complain about it being cabaret music, I can still listen 'past' the cabaret-ness of it, but I wonder why he was never again able to make a record that was not cabaret? On the other hand, the reason seems obvious.
-- antonius (r...), September 6th, 2004.

I'd been playing Black Grape and the Happy Mondays just now, and suddenly throwing on Fun House is just so much more FULFILLING than those records (not knocking them, mind you). But fuck...."TV Eye" is playing right now, and it's just fucking UNSTOPPABLE!
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 13th, 2005.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I never heared this album, until one day the Fun House sessions arrived at my doorstep unbidded.

I love this album.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

18

points: 601
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 18

MICHAEL JACKSON - OFF THE WALL

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Off the Wall

Michael Jackson

Somewhere in between Michael Jackson’s difficult childhood and his possibly psychotic reactions to his difficult childhood, he managed to come out with Off the Wall. At the time, we thought it would always be thus.

You can no longer listen to this record without thinking about what came after. Thriller may have made him the King of Pop rather than a good-looking guy with a few hits, but the seeds of MJ’s musical destruction are there. The paranoia, the megalomania, the self-reference (fictional and non-) made for great songs on Thriller, but he’s walking on a wire. He wobbled on “We Are the World,” teetered with stuff like “The Way You Make Me Feel” a great song rendered stiff by the production) and eventually fell off, handing in calcified junk like “Invincible.”

Off the Wall breathes; it’s engaging while it’s impressive. You can dance to it without worrying that you don’t look as cool as Michael Jackson dancing to it. “We’re the party people living night and day/ Living crazy that’s the only way/ So tonight/ Gotta put that 9 to 5 up on the shelf/ And just enjoy yourself.” Slight? Maybe, but fun too. And, as on “She’s Out of My Life,” as on everything here, he sings like he knows what he’s talking about (even though he probably already doesn’t).

Weird Al Yankovic never parodied anything from Off the Wall (on record anyway). That’s because he tweaks excess. And there isn’t any here.

Rick Massimo

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link


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