1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

looks like a lot of stuff is under
johnny thunders
johnny thunders and the heartbreakers
heartbreakers

which is annoying to search

ha, I searched LAMF for exactly that reason

lol http://open.spotify.com/album/7ij38PXpjMd7rK6HLvfW14

so did we ever agree which Chrome album was best?

the 8 track of the heartbreakers' wohin der wind uns weht is the best version btw

I've never actually heard LAMF but I love Live At Max's.

which ive not heard.

oh man, that's like loving evilive and never having heard walk among us

xp

so did we ever agree which Chrome album was best?

how is it not Alien Soundtracks?

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Cockney Rebel – The Psychomodo (EMI, 1974)
By 1974 everyone was declaring glam rock dead. Bowie sent it an apocalyptic kiss-off with Diamond Dogs, and even Bolan was saying it even though his latest T. Rex album still retained its basic glam pop essence despite incorporating more soul and funk elements. But it the hands of Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel, it simply grew fangs and developed a sinister, fractured circus blues twist. When their excellent debut The Human Menagerie (1973) didn’t quite reach the commercial heights as their peers, the band got even darker and weirder rather than chase the hits. While they did not rock as hard as Sweet, the music was plenty menacing, evoking images of “morgue-like lips,” “blow-job blues and boogaloos.” The nearly 16 minutes of dirgey darkness of “Ritz” and “Cavaliers” is balanced by the romantic melodicism of “Mr. Soft” and “Bed in the Corner.” “Sling It!” and “Tumbling Down” wrap up the album with some storming emotional intensity. The last fading, repeated refrain, “Oh dear, look what they’ve done to the blues!” While the band technically broke up after that, Harley wasn’t quite finished with the Cockney Rebel name, releasing the similarly underrated The Best Years Of Our Lives (1975) and the less essential Love’s A Prima Donna (1976).

emil.y, us one of your 2 fave albums by Faust?

― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Friday, March 1, 2013 10:05 AM (Yesterday)

No, though two of those battle it out close to the top in a grand epic of pop vs experimentalism. For those who really care, my top two are La Dusseldorf and Acnalbasac Noom, and no, I still haven't decided which to go with.

xp I think everyone had expressed a preference for Chrome's Alien Soundtracks.

Just as there was confusion over the various mixes of L.A.M.F., there was some back-and-forth with the Dead Boys album too. Remember Younger, Louder, Snottier (The Rough Mixes) from '89? It had scrawled in faux spray-paint on the cover, "yo!!! ...more balls den da original!!!" It was actually a trebly mess and the original is still best.

The first La Dusseldorf is listed twice:
La Dusseldorf - La Dusseldorf
La Dusseldorf - ST

The $10 shirt is only in XL. This one is a bit more, but in L and S for the ladies.

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xp
that doesn't mean emil.y gets to vote twice!

seandalai hasn't been around lately to fix it as he's busy.

I'm grappling with Khan and Gong right now. I love the space opera concept of Khan, just wish it were a wee bit heavier and cosmic. Still heavier than Gong though. I used to favor Camembert Electrique but Flying Teapot is pulling ahead.

Are you really listening to every album nominated before voting?

made a spotify playlist with only the track records reissue of LAMF in it

http://open.spotify.com/user/edward_iii/playlist/20msOrGfGsc4IUDiFdpFyh

Ha ha, 1,000+ albums? No. I was just relistening to a few I wasn't sure about. I just listen to whatever I'm in the mood for or am curious about. On top of the poll albums this week I've been digging into Tonio K, Jeff Wayne, Haruomi Hosono, Abecedarians, 70s Alan Parsons Project, as previously mentioned Golden Earring, Armand Schaubroeck Steals and the new Autre New Veut, Section 25 and Jess & the Ancient Ones.

A couple of great albums in the post-Hendrix/post-Miles heavy fusion vein that may not be as well-known to some:

John McLaughlin - Devotion: Truly great instrumental heavy rock. Not as acrobatic or busy as Mahavishnu Orchestra, which came later and which I also love. Plenty of Cream/Hendrix influence. (Buddy Miles on drums). Recommended to fans of King Crimson's Red, although I actually think this is more soulful than that album. (Absence of soulfulness is not a bad thing!) There may even be days when I like it more than Inner Mounting Flame.

Larry Coryell - Barefoot Boy: Coryell is an amazing guitarist, even gets a little noisy at times. Trades off with Steve Marcus on sax. Nice mix of drums and some Latin percussion. Opens with a version of "Gypsy Queen".

I have never heard Devotion I should rectify that

For certain!

is it from before Mahavishnu Orchestra?

Yes, from 1970, after he took a break from Miles's band and before he formed the Orchestra.

ahh, I did not know that.

I might vote for miles davis' big fun just for mclaughlin's turn on "go ahead john"

my corny dilettante false metal soft sad spiritual hat ballot is GO ^_^

you can come campaign for 70s poll stuff here http://plug.dj/ilxors/

thanks for your ballot wins. Its through ok.

59 album ballots in. Doubles not counted. Pretty healthy amount.

imagine how many you'd have if only you asked ppl to vote

It's true I've not been trying hard enough. But I cba.

I already voted, but I've been listened to some nominated albums tonight:
Bloodrock- st is fucking great and the Culpeper's Orchard- st is also pretty nice.

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Anyone seen Seandalai? Not even sure if he will be able to tabulate this thing

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Family - A Song For Me (Reprise, 1970)
During the fertile period of 1968-1970 in the UK, a number of bands navigated the transition from psychedelic rock to prog. Many kept their fingers in a number of other genres, and while the likes of Traffic, Procol Harum, Spooky Tooth, Family, new favorites Stray and even Yes were pretty well known, they don't necessarily get enough credit for making groundbreaking albums during that three year span. Apart from the astounding Stray debut, the heaviest and most experimental of the bunch is Family's A Song For Me. Lead by vocalist Roger Chapman, who boasted a unique, scratchy vibrato, but could also wail as well at Steve Marriott, Family released very strong albums with Music In A Doll's House (1968) and Family Entertainment (1969). In the face of adversity (failed U.S. tour, losing two members and a manager), their third was their best yet. Psychedelic rock, folk, jazz, blues and boogie are all explored, but the most exciting bits of this diverse set are the unusual arrangements in heavy progressive rockers "Drowned In Wine," "Love Is A Sleeper" and especially the 9:20 long title track, a real monster that competes with Stray's "All In Your Mind" and "Suicide" for extended length rockers that keep you enraptured every second. The band continued to evolve on the less consistent Anyway... (1970), Fearless (1971) and another fan favorite, Bandstand (1972). But A Song For Me captures them at their edgy peak.

xp McLaughlin's Devotion is great, though my favorite is the frantic first album by Mahavishnu Orchestra. I hadn't included any jazz fusion, but The Inner Mounting Flame is a monster. Not nominated, but also check out the Coltrane tribute he did with Santana, Love Devotion Surrender (1972).

well yeah, the concept of a "first punk" is stupid but hell was certainly a forebearer of what became an archetype, from style to attitude to music. always felt bad reading bangs' account of him opening for the clash in '77, getting spit on by dudes who were prolly listening to mud or whatever while he was busy inventing their steez for them back in '74.

at one point I had posted on ILM a zip file with the evolution of "love comes in spurts" with versions by neon boys, television, heartbreakers, and the voidoids. should see if I can dig that up.

― unprepared guitar (Edward III), Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:34 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that would be cool

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:11 AM (5 days ago)

original files are lost in the archives but all the stuff's on youtube anyway so here are 4 versions tracing the evolution of richard hell's "love comes in spurts". in typical hell fashion, the best version of the song isn't officially available.

neon boys, 1972
slow choogling original sounds so much like the velvet underground it still makes me lawl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JqFEz-_AjE

heartbreakers, 1975
after hell quit television and thunders quit the NY dolls in the same week in '75, they teamed up and recorded my fave version of the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWu_NlU4t3c

rh + the voidoids, 1977
hell finally lands a record deal and his guitarists get their wavo freak on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23oodi_93KQ

heartbreakers - "one track mind", 1977
after hell leaves the heartbreakers, nervy bastard thunders keeps playing "love comes in spurts" but with different words. LAMF is so good I forgive him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wnCidDiqzw

ah shit did not mean to embed

anyway take 10 minutes to wonder at the splendor of richard hell before casting yr ballots thx

voted, bare minimum effort, solid gold choices

Got it, thanks!

remember everybody there is the tracks poll that balls started and the viceroy is helping out with Takin' Care of Business: ILX 70s RAWK TRAX VOTING RULES AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD - VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

Lets try get to 70 ballots for the 70s poll.

Kraan tracks going down well in plug.dj/ilxors and noticed a few votes for em so if anybody wants more info
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/kraan-mn0000102542

will add them to spotify list

Really good and just outside my top 100: Stomu Yamashta, Granicus, Hard Stuff, Blue Phantom, Agitation Free, Masters Apprentices, Erkin Koray, Dust, Debris, Catapilla, Kraan, Le Orme, A.R. & Machines.

from memory i think i made room for that Dust album. it'd be a shame if i cut it.

Ballot it!

Felt bad picking so many already well known albums to be honest but found many hard to overlook. Looking through the nominations list in depth made me think that I've got a lot to benefit from in paying attention to the results and checking out albums I've heard about time and time again but lacked that push to actually go out there and listen to them. I haven't had enough time recently to focus enough on the thread and look into recommendations. I'll make up for that during the results and aftermath hopefully.

Well, I hope lots of people will find lots of new music to enjoy via the results. That is what polls are about for me.

Skot, last night sund4r and I were talking about "musical chops" and weren't really feeling the "american bands lost chops because of punk" narrative (we agreed the UK did fall for that post 76 stuff of manifestos and haircuts were more important than guitar solos and I felt it was more the emergence of Nirvana that did that in the us) but sund4r was also talking about something you said once about how american bands learned their trade in the 60s and early 70s by playing rnb,jazz,blues ,funk covers etc and bands could play a variety of styles. Whilst 80s bands and onwards did not. Could you perhaps expand on your theory here please?