1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

Original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0m9DvyqrIU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tnrLT0uyNc

that's The Pink Fairies vs Motorhead btw (Larry Wallis was in both)

Going back to yesterday's buttrock topic, is there any particular album by Black Oak Arkansas, Foghat, Grand Funk, Humble Pie, etc. that anyone wants to talk up? Not makin fun, I enjoy most of 'em, just not sure if any one album stands out the most, other than Humble Pie's Smokin' which wasn't even nominated!

I'm not sure why the self-titled (Red) Grand Funk album wasn't nominated. I'm guessing it was a date thing. I thought it was released in '70, but maybe it was '69. Either way, that one stands out to me. It is mind-blowingly amazing if anyone hasn't heard it.

Ah what the heck - I think I'm going to campaign for some stuff (what is the rule on youtube embeds in this thread now - not sure what to think when the organizer is breaking their own rules ;-) ) ...

You know ya wanna put these higher in your lists:
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny - If you don't rank this high, Halford will hold that last Victim of Changes coda wail and blow out all of the windows on the planet
Dead Boys - Young, Loud, and Snotty - Cheetah Chrome is such an under-rated guitar player - neck and neck with Ramones for funnest American first-wave punk songs
Truth & Janey- No Rest For The Wicked - seriously - all should give this a re-listen, I think the guitar work and general jamminess is on par with Captain Beyond - one of two ballot rankings I would change
DMZ - s/t - I want to go back and time and attend a party where this is the house band
Steel Mill - Green Eyed God - I want these guys to reform and play my wedding
The Groundhogs - Thank Christ For The Bomb - I ranked Split higher, but this was my Groundhogs gateway rekkid and it seriously slays
Khan - Space Shanty - If you're gonna pick one Canterbury rock rekkid - this is it
MX-80 Sound - Hard Attack - other ballot ranking I wish I would have changed - early wave of American post punk filled with fun sounds and ideas

point taken i wont embed anymore

Sad Wings is so great. Are you saying that Space Shanty is better than Soft Machine's Third, BIP?? I better listen to the whole thing then. I've heard (and liked) the title track + I love solo Hillage.

I'm the wrong guy to Pepsi challenge the 'Cant' Rock - just never really got Soft Machine (or Wyatt for that matter) - maybe someday it will click. But 'Angel's Egg' era Hillage playing (not even nominated - I rank it higher than teapot or you), his solo rekkids, or Space Shanty - that vibe just gets me. But I'm rockist at heart and am more likely to blast some Bad Brains or Budgie.

I think I'm also gonna throw down and campaign for the Betty Davis nominations - those records are seriously amongst my fave funk rock (not to mention she's the most awesome lady on the list of noms - I kinda get the gripes in another thread about not enough women on the list - I'll admit that I slept on the nominations, but dang, I just thought at least Blondie - Parallel Lines woulda made it).

cosign on sad wings of destiny, DMZ, and MX-80 sound

sad wings not only their best record of the 70s, it's their best record, period

Awesome Sad Wings t-shirts on ebay for like 10 bux - you know y'all wanna get one in time for the results ...

Word. Sad Wings is my favorite Priest, and pretty high up my ballot. Great reminders with MX-80 Sound (connection between Pere Ubu and The Fall?), DMZ and Dead Boys. My files of Hard Attack seem incomplete with just 8 tracks. It was a two-fer with the Big Hits EP, will have to check my CD when I get home to make sure I ripped it all.

Got my 'Hard Attack' vinyl at a Salvation Army in Chicago about 15 years ago (in great shape, too - it's like the record gods smiled and parted the sky that day). Got their followup 'out of the tunnel' at a CHIRP record fair for cheap too.

fyi it's getting reissued on vinyl this year

Superior Viaduct is honored to present Hard Attack's first-ever vinyl edition in the US. Mastered from the original analog tapes for the first time since 1977 and remixed by the band, this deluxe reissue will soon become the definitive version for longtime fans and newcomers alike. The singular and staggering innovation of MX-80 SOUND still harkens to rock's future potential.

http://www.superiorviaduct.com/mx80sound/

Nice, the same label that did The Sleepers. Did you see MX-80 play the Shellac-curated show at Logan Auditorium in '94?

BTW lol at the thread started just to piss and moan about this poll. It seems to have disappeared just now. Will they move on to protest the Rolling Metal thread?

another one?

why is a rockist 70s poll running? is still on ile

Ah, ILE. I thought it had been crushed by a mod or the rockist hegemony, e.g. swaggering thundercockz.

ONE WEEK TO GO
PLEASE READ ALL OF THE BELOW BEFORE VOTING

You can vote for a minimum of 20 and maximum of 100 albums, But you CANNOT VOTE FOR MORE THAN 3 ALBUMS BY THE ONE BAND UNLESS YOU FILL OUT A FULL BALLOT OF 100 THEN THERE IS NO LIMITS

You can choose to submit a weighted, unweighted or split ballot. Points will be assigned as follows: Weighted: 1st choice (top of the ballot) 260 points, then 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on down to 2 points for 100th place. Unweighted: Every choice gets 113 points. Split: The top portion is treated as a weighted ballot and the remaining potential points total is divided equally among the bottom portion.

But It would be good if those who don't want to rank a full ballot would still rank the top 10 or 20 then do a split unranked ballot rather than pure unweighted.
It's entirely up to you but It's helpful for avoiding ties and the top albums deserves the points. So please try and rank part of your ballot. You know it looks better when albums have a #1.

Some may want to just vote for the heaviest or 'rockingest' tracks. They may wish to vote in the style of the 80s poll. Or you may just simply want to vote for your favourite albums in the list. It's entirely up to you. Just vote please!

Please make sure you copy and paste your selections directly from the following spreadsheet: ALBUMS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

Here is the voting form
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEN3MGdQQkdWWUtsM19SYlZ0UTdzQkE6MQ

There is also a Spotify Albums Playlist please subscribe to it. Not everything is on Spotify though.

Voting Closes MARCH 8th 11.59 PM UK Time 1 week from now!

Along the lines of weird outsider rock of MX-80 Sound and Chrome is Debris. I don't know if it's quite awesome enough to make my ballot, but perhaps someone would like to promote it?

Last night we were listening to nominated stuff in this room http://plug.dj/ilxors/

not going to get much campaigning done today but I do want to implore everybody to check out the heartbreakers' LAMF if you've never heard it. or if you heard one of the various awful remixes done over the years - wretched attempts to correct the original's (overstated) vinyl mastering problems.

it's not just one of the best rock records of the 70s, it's one of the best rock records EVER. sorely underrated, I defy you to find a bad song on here. oddly enough the most sonically satisfying version can be found on the original cassette which can be heard in all its glory on the youtube:

http://youtu.be/nYNM6_O3MjU

the long-suppressed original mix was reissued by jungle records just last year but I still haven't heard it

I have a late 90s cd version of LAMF

I've been pulling out my copy of Stomu Yamashta's Floating Music over the past few days and have been really enjoying it. IIRC the first side is pretty groove based fusion and the second side gets a bit more firey. It's a great album and definitely worth a few listens...I've definitely been enjoying more now than when I first found it 5 or 6 years ago. They fuck around for a minute or two on the first track before they find the groove...you know, in case yr getting impatient.

http://youtu.be/d--rBihvjoA

Also, the Harlem River Drive album is a latin fusion beast...and that album cover is so great.

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/h/harlemriver_harlemriv_101b.jpg

http://youtu.be/akhVgotIlhk

oh shit! the definitive LAMF is on spotify! that's the one w/ the original track records mix on it. it sounds fucking awesome! forget the youtube, listen to this.

that 90s CD is the lost '77 mixes, which is not a bad listening option but it's *too* cleaned up. this a backalley junkie punk album, you *want* some scuzz n grime in there, and the lost 77 mixes is all midrange surface, no balls, the drums are anemic. this new reissue restores the bassy undertones that bring the thunder to lure & thunders' lightning.

on spotify the track records version starts at track 15 - the first 14 tracks are the lost 77 mixes. compare the 2 versions of "pirate love", no contest, the track records version does burly justice to one of the greatest runaway train codas in rock.

only one on Spotify UK is this one
http://open.spotify.com/album/4CLnHCjgBVBEoCU6e4kts1

can you link to your version please so i can see what it says when i click?

bummer. and weird, since jungle is a UK label.

http://open.spotify.com/album/6sv1O38v4YBG8kBI5iRatz

hmmm that link worked!

looks like a lot of stuff is under
johnny thunders
johnny thunders and the heartbreakers
heartbreakers

which is annoying to search

ha, I searched LAMF for exactly that reason

lol http://open.spotify.com/album/7ij38PXpjMd7rK6HLvfW14

so did we ever agree which Chrome album was best?

the 8 track of the heartbreakers' wohin der wind uns weht is the best version btw

I've never actually heard LAMF but I love Live At Max's.

which ive not heard.

oh man, that's like loving evilive and never having heard walk among us

xp

so did we ever agree which Chrome album was best?

how is it not Alien Soundtracks?

http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/cockneyrebel-psychomodo.jpg

Cockney Rebel – The Psychomodo (EMI, 1974)
By 1974 everyone was declaring glam rock dead. Bowie sent it an apocalyptic kiss-off with Diamond Dogs, and even Bolan was saying it even though his latest T. Rex album still retained its basic glam pop essence despite incorporating more soul and funk elements. But it the hands of Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel, it simply grew fangs and developed a sinister, fractured circus blues twist. When their excellent debut The Human Menagerie (1973) didn’t quite reach the commercial heights as their peers, the band got even darker and weirder rather than chase the hits. While they did not rock as hard as Sweet, the music was plenty menacing, evoking images of “morgue-like lips,” “blow-job blues and boogaloos.” The nearly 16 minutes of dirgey darkness of “Ritz” and “Cavaliers” is balanced by the romantic melodicism of “Mr. Soft” and “Bed in the Corner.” “Sling It!” and “Tumbling Down” wrap up the album with some storming emotional intensity. The last fading, repeated refrain, “Oh dear, look what they’ve done to the blues!” While the band technically broke up after that, Harley wasn’t quite finished with the Cockney Rebel name, releasing the similarly underrated The Best Years Of Our Lives (1975) and the less essential Love’s A Prima Donna (1976).

emil.y, us one of your 2 fave albums by Faust?

― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Friday, March 1, 2013 10:05 AM (Yesterday)

No, though two of those battle it out close to the top in a grand epic of pop vs experimentalism. For those who really care, my top two are La Dusseldorf and Acnalbasac Noom, and no, I still haven't decided which to go with.

xp I think everyone had expressed a preference for Chrome's Alien Soundtracks.

Just as there was confusion over the various mixes of L.A.M.F., there was some back-and-forth with the Dead Boys album too. Remember Younger, Louder, Snottier (The Rough Mixes) from '89? It had scrawled in faux spray-paint on the cover, "yo!!! ...more balls den da original!!!" It was actually a trebly mess and the original is still best.

The first La Dusseldorf is listed twice:
La Dusseldorf - La Dusseldorf
La Dusseldorf - ST

The $10 shirt is only in XL. This one is a bit more, but in L and S for the ladies.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Judas-Priest-Sad-Wings-of-Destiny-T-shirt-NEW-/00/s/ODI2WDEwMDA%3D/%24%28KGrHqV%2C%21i8E-bSjfggzBPu6%29kpY%2C%21%7E%7E60_57.JPG

xp
that doesn't mean emil.y gets to vote twice!

seandalai hasn't been around lately to fix it as he's busy.

I'm grappling with Khan and Gong right now. I love the space opera concept of Khan, just wish it were a wee bit heavier and cosmic. Still heavier than Gong though. I used to favor Camembert Electrique but Flying Teapot is pulling ahead.

Are you really listening to every album nominated before voting?

made a spotify playlist with only the track records reissue of LAMF in it

http://open.spotify.com/user/edward_iii/playlist/20msOrGfGsc4IUDiFdpFyh

Ha ha, 1,000+ albums? No. I was just relistening to a few I wasn't sure about. I just listen to whatever I'm in the mood for or am curious about. On top of the poll albums this week I've been digging into Tonio K, Jeff Wayne, Haruomi Hosono, Abecedarians, 70s Alan Parsons Project, as previously mentioned Golden Earring, Armand Schaubroeck Steals and the new Autre New Veut, Section 25 and Jess & the Ancient Ones.

A couple of great albums in the post-Hendrix/post-Miles heavy fusion vein that may not be as well-known to some:

John McLaughlin - Devotion: Truly great instrumental heavy rock. Not as acrobatic or busy as Mahavishnu Orchestra, which came later and which I also love. Plenty of Cream/Hendrix influence. (Buddy Miles on drums). Recommended to fans of King Crimson's Red, although I actually think this is more soulful than that album. (Absence of soulfulness is not a bad thing!) There may even be days when I like it more than Inner Mounting Flame.

Larry Coryell - Barefoot Boy: Coryell is an amazing guitarist, even gets a little noisy at times. Trades off with Steve Marcus on sax. Nice mix of drums and some Latin percussion. Opens with a version of "Gypsy Queen".