I almost want to protest. The last two are inextricably tied together in my brain, they can't be separated.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 February 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
the whole text of that part is one of the funniest things ever written:
The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders' dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.
"You hurt me deeply," Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. "You hurt me deeply in my heart."
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Sunday, 24 February 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
Your hurt me deeply vs. You hurt me deeply in my heart
― administrator galina (Matt P), Sunday, 24 February 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of nice to see that he was just as much of a ridiculous tool back when he was in the middle or writing Mellon Collie classics
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Sunday, 24 February 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
Billy Corgan can't make his face into a heart.
Loser
the whole text of that part is one of the funniest things ever written: /The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders' dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns."You hurt me deeply," Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. "You hurt me deeply in my heart."/
/The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders' dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.
"You hurt me deeply," Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. "You hurt me deeply in my heart."/
Yes but can Billy Corgan make his face into a heart?
― hyggeligt, Sunday, 24 February 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for Aha! A Virgo. You're argumentative. for personal reasons, but the answer really is You hurt me deeply in my heart.
― harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 24 February 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^ so choice. the others are all outwardly amusing & ridiculous, but this one paints such a vivid picture of the interior life of billy corgan, installing a microphone in his kitchen to record the sound of clingfilm being stretched, driving way out of town to see if he can get a cheap deal on a new printer, looking up the zoning details of his building in the city ordinance to see if he could push his landlord for reduced rent.
― schlump, Sunday, 24 February 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
like '83-'84 new wave, not like Berlin.
― B.A. "Bad Attitude" Santamaria (King Boy Pato), Monday, 25 February 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
i thought Corgan is straight..
― nostormo, Monday, 25 February 2013 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
Straight trippin
― how's life, Monday, 25 February 2013 12:18 (eleven years ago) link
Clearly "You hurt me deeply"/"You hurt me deeply in my heart" are the real winners here, but I'm voting for "I hate how in magazine pictures, they always stick me somewhere in the back" because it's just so stunningly needy and is a perfect encapsulation of how Corgan's personality has always seemed to me. Thayil's measured, rational and 100% OTM response is great too.
Mostly, though, I just wanted to post this:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4846659584/h82F1F34C/
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
Especially since it's not really borne out by press photos of the time:
http://www.thevinyldistrict.com/chicago/files/2011/04/The_Smashing_Pumpkins-425x310.jpg
Voted for "You hurt me deeply in my heart" though.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 25 February 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
You know Iha in that photo was all, whatever, I don't give a shit, put me in back.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Whatever you want, Billy, I'm flipping you off behind your back.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/Siamese_Dreamer/Smashing%20Pumpkins/billy-corgan-01.jpg
― how's life, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/321369/Billy+Corgan.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/06/25/billy-corgan-6-22-12-3_custom-7b6f3b85c7864bd1337b32e7a25383ebad962910-s6-c10.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs4/i/2004/227/d/d/Billy_Corgan_is_adorable.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ona4Cy9TfOA
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
the corgan/thayil standoff has been etched in my brain for nearly 20 years as well
― da croupier, Monday, 25 February 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
so many great moments but i have to go with "you hurt me deeply in my heart"
voted for echo and the bunnymen just going from the options sitting there by themselves, but actually reading the piece, they are all pretty compelling.
"Aha!" Corgan says. "A Virgo. You're argumentative.""Damn right, I'm argumentative," Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, "which you should know because I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign.""I'm a Pisces," Corgan replies. "We pick up on those things."
"Damn right, I'm argumentative," Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, "which you should know because I've been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign."
"I'm a Pisces," Corgan replies. "We pick up on those things."
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 February 2013 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
this fucking guy
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 February 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
I wish I could vote for the actual best part of this, which is this:
Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita.
― :C (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Aha! A Virgo. You're argumentative.
'Cuz I'm a Virgo and I'm argumentative.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 25 February 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
Curt otm.
Although my favorite all time Billy moment is him dressing up in a clown costume onstage because he was butthurt over a bad review in Melody Maker.
― Ulna (Nicole), Monday, 25 February 2013 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
What's so amazing is that this is what Corgan was like early in his career, a good many years before any other number of insufferable transgressions.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 February 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
He was insufferable right off the bat.
― Ulna (Nicole), Monday, 25 February 2013 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
totally insufferable nightmare
otoh, "Rhinoceros" and "Bury Me"
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not saying all the music is bad, but he has always been a complete twit in interviews, etc.
― Ulna (Nicole), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
serious lmao at this exchange as presented here. somehow i didn't realize corgan was just as fascinating of a personality pre-mellon collie.
― billstevejim, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
he is basically crazy
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
I always liked Thayil but that interview pretty much cemented it in my brain when it ran. Would buy him a beer anytime.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
I love that nearly 20 years after these exchanges took place it's still endlessly rewarding to pick them apart and lol at what a giant tool Billy Corgan was and is. His dickheadery transcends time.
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
you hurt me deeply in my heart FTW
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
that interview is so great, alltime favorite
in context, "I'm a Pisces, We pick up on those things," is probably the most amazing line here
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
I had to go for "But I hate it, it means they don't think I'm the cute one." because it's so hilariously childish and petulant.
― Ulna (Nicole), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden's "Outshined" that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.
― :C (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw imagining pumpkins covering "outshined" sounds like it could be awesome.
― billstevejim, Monday, 25 February 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a Pisces, We pick up on those things. is really speaking to me right now
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 25 February 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
this makes me wish Kim Thayil did all of Soundgarden's interviews, possibly also co-hosted That Metal Show or something
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
"you hurt me deeply in my heart" is not complete without the image of corgan pointing to the superman logo on his chest/shirt
― brimstead, Monday, 25 February 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
okay
Imagine Dawn Richard is singing all of Armor On and Goldenheart to Billy Corgan in a Superman t-shirt
;_;
― This beat is TWEENCHRONIC (DJP), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
i kept the poll options strictly to the quotes but feel free to vote based on their full meaning and context
― luaka boppa flame (some dude), Monday, 25 February 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
This interview should have won a pulitzer. Best ever.
The winner has to be "..deeply in my heart", but they're all solid gold.
― Mule, Monday, 25 February 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
"I'm a Pisces, We pick up on those things" is 100x funnier in context:
― :C (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
haha oh wait somebody already posted that excerpt
― :C (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
That's okay. I think it's the most remarkable part of the piece too.
― balls, I mean, balls, and the eternal frustration (how's life), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
such great margarita talk.
― balls, I mean, balls, and the eternal frustration (how's life), Monday, 25 February 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
Ugh
― calstars, Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link
I think he's trying to get festival bookings for a full SP reunion in 2018,
not with D'Arcy on bass, surely?
― korla pundit (crüt), Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:37 (six years ago) link
was that really necessary Turrican
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 15 July 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link
jesus...
― flappy bird, Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
_I think he's trying to get festival bookings for a full SP reunion in 2018,_not with D'Arcy on bass, surely?
yes, they're in contact and have been since last year
― flappy bird, Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
What? I was talking, of course, about the Alt. Rock Hall of Fame...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 15 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
Some of these guitars look pretty cool tbh, really love the James Trussart Rustomatic but they're expensive enough when they're not previously owned by someone famous.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 15 July 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
Wow, is there really no ILX Jonathan Gold appreciaation thread? RIP JG, one of the best.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 23 July 2018 05:03 (five years ago) link
holy shit, Jonathan Gold wrote this piece??
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 July 2018 05:07 (five years ago) link
...the same Jonathan Gold?
Yeah he wrote a lot about WC Gangsta Rap & pre-/post-Nirvana-grunge for the LA Weekly, LA Times & SPIN. He was at all the club shows... Al's Bar, Jabberwocky, Raji's.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 23 July 2018 05:22 (five years ago) link
Wow
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 July 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link
I meant Jabberjaw, not Jabberwocky! That's what I get for posting in the middle of the night.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 23 July 2018 05:34 (five years ago) link
lol, just stumbled upon this video of Billy interviewing an openly-contemptuous Nick Cave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X1LThFfA8U
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 April 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
lol, amazing
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 April 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
lol great find
― brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
Easter came early.
― Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
I love that MTV wasn't like 'eh, we can't air that' but rather like 'oh, we MUST air that'.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
loooooool
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
*makes dick-sucking motion with microphone* and it all goes downhill from there.
― ☮️ (peace, man), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
Love it when he calls Cave English
― la légende d'beer (Matt #2), Friday, 10 April 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link
hahaha none of you have seen that before? I think about it semi-often
"I mean you know, for the typical American teenager, it's all the same.""Yeah well it's not.""I know I'm sorry.""You said you're a teenager? How old are you?""27.""Right."
🤣🤣🤣
its awesome to watch Billy eat shit bc it so rarely happens. there was a great one maybe 5 years ago when he was on an Australian morning show to promote a festival appearance by SP (I think the Download Festival or something). at the end of the interview, the host said "Hope you have a good time at Download!" and Billy just said "What's that?" DEAD AIR 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 April 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
yeah it’s amazing to see billy actually feel uncomfortable and painfully uncool
― brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link
there’s not a second of it that’s not golden but my favourite part might be the footage of cave and the seeds giving it their all in front of a bemused audience in full blazing sunshine
― force ghost bg (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 10 April 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
it's even better when he quadruples down and claims that Germany, England and an entire continent on the other side of the planet from them "all look like" one country, from as far away as America
― donald failson (sic), Friday, 10 April 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
he was mocking Americans when he said that, but didn't give it the right polish
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 April 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
yep, he half-assed the self-deprecation and it backfired
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 April 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Friday, April 10, 2020 2:47 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
OTM
― Deflatormouse, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
he tried for self-deprecation but accidentally showed his whole ass
― donald failson (sic), Friday, 10 April 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
my favourite part might be the footage of cave and the seeds giving it their all in front of a bemused audience in full blazing sunshine
yeah thats amazing. Looks like its 11am.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 10 April 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link
https://www.nme.com/news/music/billy-corgan-says-he-was-not-considered-good-looking-in-smashing-pumpkins-early-days-2948368?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=billy-corgan-says-he-was-not-considered-good-looking-in-smashing-pumpkins-early-days
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 25 May 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link
Aw, you were an adorable little scamp back in the day, Billy, don't sell yourself short.https://www.boyactors.org.uk/actors/1488.jpg
― Jerome Percival Jesus (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
“So, my looks were not part of anybody’s formula as far as the success of the band. It was never talked about. Photographers would try to stick me in the back of photo shoots with the band and put other people [in front of me]. I swear to God… Well, you know, things change.”
dogg you're like half a foot taller than your bandmates!!
― eisimpleir (crüt), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link
“I have two distinctive and handsome people in the band whom I do not permit to play on our records. I’ll be FUCKED if I let them appear in the photographs instead!”
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link
lol that's not billy corgan
http://washedupcelebrities.blogspot.com/2007/05/jerry-supiran.html?m=1
xxp
― Fauna Sukkot (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 04:26 (two years ago) link
Lmfao yes!!!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 06:33 (two years ago) link
Excellent bump
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/b7/ab/efb7ab5fdfc6136bc37327c01d3dcc04.jpg
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 06:38 (two years ago) link
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/smashing-pumpkins-on-51091-in-chicago-il-picture-id75371914?k=6&m=75371914&s=612x612&w=0&h=2wQ5yd9GyruOdtx1Z6OJQnQadAwRsu8ENRgJfBhEpwg=
― Sam Weller, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 07:21 (two years ago) link
NOTHING is uglier than Jimmy's shirt
― burnt hombre (stevie), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link
lol thats not Billy Corganhttps://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/famous-murders/amanda-knox/
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 08:02 (two years ago) link
james iha was and is the only member of the rolling stones
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 09:19 (two years ago) link
Poll: Who has the more fragile ego - Billy Corgan or Donald Trump?
― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 11:33 (two years ago) link
at least Billy can read
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link
Looks as if the Pumpkins were part of that power pop Paisley psych look that Redd Kross/Posies/Jellyfish were giving off circa 1990
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 26 May 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
oh yeah, the gish era was 100 percent that
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 May 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link