1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

oh cool, will check it out.

btw where are all the ILM Chrome and Fall fans?

well, Dragnet is basically my second favorite album ever so I guess that's me

are they going to be the Sonic Youth of this poll?

Actually are the early 80s Fall albums more critically acclaimed than the 70s albums?

The Fall poll is coming up here p soon and everybody's acting like it's going to get a record number of ballots or something, but I think that there's been kind of a silent backlash against them lately, partly because their last record was not v popular, (who can be sure it isn't any good? though that was my gut reaction)

like the 80s was their decade and they only had one song and two albums nominated for that. Like This Nation's Saving Grace didn't get nominated which is kind of crazy if you ask me! Like everybody forgot. Part of that is my fault, considering I was the one who nommed the two Fall albums that did make it--TNSG was my first Fall album and it's good but I didnt quite get it back then, and then later I connected w the 79-83 stuff so deeply that I tend to underrate the Brix stuff--but the fact that nobody even thought to pick up my slack really is kind of weird imho

xp yeah I'd say so

but yeah Dragnet and Early Years are going to place v high on my ballot

Its hard to tell if the fall will place high as their fans on ilm, of which are many, might just go "oh a rock poll im not clicking on it" and miss out (presumably that is why they werent nominated in 80s poll?)
but thats why people need to campaign. It reminds people , especially those who glance through nomination lists. Albums that get campaigned for seem to do best see 80s results for that. It was hardly surprising big black and sonic youth did so well as most chat was about them.
Do people just assume sabbath/led zep/bowie/rush/yes will dominate this poll so dont bother?

Im surprised at the lackof the fall and chrome chat on here. I guess we need hellhouse,stirmonster and edward!

Mind you I never understood the fall love on ilm

man I could probably write a short essay on each one of at least half of the tracks on Dragnet and the surrounding singles explaining why I love that particular one so much, but I really think that would be a bad way to stimulate conversation and convert people who already think this undertaking is a solipsistic wankfest

actually that would be great!

I for one would welcome any dragnet related thesis

Wow, I'm surprised by how much I'm digging Love It to Death after Billion Dollar Babies didn't do much for me beyond the title track. I can totally see how Thurston Moore was into this.

Sund4r do you like Chrome?

I don't know Chrome very well at all.

xp lol no thesis, more like "Flat of Angles always sounded to me like some superamalgam of His Latest Flame (acknowledged rip) and People Funny Boy (unacknowledged maybe nonexistent)" or "seriously guys, my mission to find songs that superficially resembled Psykick Dancehall led me to Liquid Liquid's Optimo, and then Liquid Liquid led me to Fela Kuti, this record really changed my life" or "Dragnet is like Surfer Rosa if Black Francis had been listening to the Upsetters albums instead of arsing about w Husker Du"

I mean, its not false and it prolley isn't bad, but the whole name-tag-genre-influence-signifier game is kind of really up its own ass

I do think that mark s giving us some paragraphs about Dragnet would be a way more awesome treat but I mean

Chrome is v good, Idk which one I like more, Alien Soundtracks or Half Machine Lip Moves

Now Fela Kuti, we need more discussion on him too!

I believe Edward prefers Alien Soundtracks to Half Machine Lip Moves. Something like it pisses over at least half of it anyway.

Is he right?

I just put on Alien Soundtracks, at least the Youtube rip. Did you see some connection to Alice Cooper?

no?

Ha, well, I only asked because you brought it up after I mentioned liking an Alice Cooper album.

AG is worrying that Chrome isn't going to have enough votes. How many are you counting down from Kerr?

Ahhh ok. I did wonder. I had mentioned Chrome before though and was hoping someone might talk about them. They're a band I expect to crack the top 50 in this poll.

yeah I would say both albums deserve to be in the top 100 at least

I dunno. It all depends on how many ballots we get. So wont be able to tell until Ive seen the final results. As for the tracks poll Viceroy will decide on that, its his poll. Think hes excited about doing the rollout!

There's 4 Chrome albums nominated iirc

With the 80s poll there was only ballots of a max of 50. This time its 100 so in theory we could do a bigger rollout. It all depends on how many vote, how many do huge ballots and people dont vote for the same 100 bands in each ballot!

do you like the idea of a large roll out?

was it a 351 I did in 80s poll?

So I guess it will be around that 300 figure if we get enough ballots.

yeah I loved the bigger rollout, the phrase I probably beat to death in that thread was 'greatest discount record bin ever'; it really did feel like you were flipping through just a massive amount of amazing LPs, even stuff I adamantly did not dig was a welcome sight just bcz of the rarity/obscurity or the sheer weirdness of it being juxtaposed with the other stuff

that was a bit vague, do you get what I mean?

yeah I get exactly what you mean. Just wish I could find those records in a discount bin!!

ps did jjj ever listen to the sonic youth cd he bought?

what size of rollout do you want mr a money?

i could probably be down with 500

Do you guys think the 70s results will be more or less obscure compared to the 80s poll?
Have the 70s albums been more..... set in stone as part of the canon? Are we all settled with regards to our fave albums of that decade?

Also with the 80s poll it was quite clear plenty of ilxors were into the more obscure bands at the time , clearly its not going to be the case with a 70s poll (or a possible 60s poll in the future), is it?

idk I think that there's some obscurities that are going to get some dece wider recognition: Ya Ho Wha 13, Guru Guru, Agitation Free, Brainticket, T2 obv, Randy Holden, maybe Blue Phantom and Dust...

Are Agitation Free or Guru Guru that obscure though? Certainly not compared to some of the stuff edward and hellhouse got in the 80s poll

I mean, who doesnt love zonked out cult head music?

http://youtu.be/qHuJfUaKCxc

xp I'd guess they were largely on the side of Krautrock that folks have heard of more than heard

I suppose we will find out how well known they are based on how high or low they place.

i suppose you are correct

I've never heard of either of those bands fwiw.

There seems to be a more glaring divide wrt 70s rock: stuff everyone hears daily on FM radio vs truly obscure things that did not benefit from the distribution that indie labels were able to manage in the 80s

I can totally dig that

Hey AG you like Blue Phantom? Fantastic Italian instrumental prog-metal film soundtrack. Distortions is probably up there with Satori as far as 1971 heavy psych goes:

http://youtu.be/nekhwrKSdYA

^track three. Another one of the full track samples that Sufi and a Killer helps itself to.

here's the full album: http://youtu.be/jtZyL595E8A

Looks like I kinda mangled the background info:

BLUE PHANTOM were a secret project by a bundle of session musicians, smartly plotted by a composer H. Tical aka Armando Sciascia, who was renowned as an Italian film composer, editor, producer in mid-60s, and simultaneously an owner of an Italian label Vedette Records. They released one and only album 'Distortions' in 1971 via Vedette Records, which was distributed not only in Italy but also in UK and France. Although 'Distortions' can be thought as a psychedelic progressive gem worldwide, it had never been re-released for a long while - an Italian independent label AMS reissued this album in 2008 finally.

i know some dude will be lurking so get yer vote in before you moan at the results sir! ;)

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:39 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

leave me out of this shit and i won't say another word on any threads associated w/ this nonsense

There's so much great music in the 70s, and a lot of it is very familiar as it's been around between 33 and 43 years, plenty of time to discover stuff. The amazing thing is there is always more great 70s albums to uncover. By the time I've finally submitted my ballot I'll have listened to well over 50 albums for the first time ever since the nominations started last Fall, and I already have a handful of new favorites.

I'm still digesting Agitation Free, it's definitely cool. Not sure why Copey snubbed them. Possibly the same reason he ignored the later Guru Guru albums, he maybe felt too much guitars made them too close to ordinary traditional rock.

Regarding The Fall, their vast catalog is a neverending source of awe, confusion and stimulation. For a long time Live at the Witch Trials would have been my favorite, but since the last reissue of Dragnet, that's taken over the top spot for their 70s albums. Chrome factored heavily on my radio shows, and Alien Soundtracks has always edged out Half Machine Lip Moves.

I’ve been meaning to submit a revised ballot. I've sat down a few time's but been interrupted. I think my first one was probably pretty predictable so maybe I should take more time and listen to explore some of the recommendations and suggestions a bit more. Really hoping the poll results turn me onto some stuff I’ve foolishly ignored in the same way the 80’s ones did.

I’m guessing my ballot will include lots of Krautrock stuff as they are the albums that jump out at me most looking at the nominations list. Tempted to place La Dusseldorf’s debut higher than a lot of the more popular albums from that scene (Faust IV, Harmonia etc) as I think it’s amongst the best from that era and doesn’t get anywhere near the plaudits it deserves. (Also, Algerian Goalkeeper, it looks like it’s listed twice in the nomination spreadsheet).

I did listen to Flamin’ Groovies ‘Teenage Head’ last week, that’s a great LP; out Stone’s the Stone’s in many places.

I’m expecting the Modern Lover’s debut to make top 10 here which would be nice.