1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

My fave VDGG album!

That's not really a bad prog top 10 IMO, excluding the first spot...

My list would be different though. Hmmm. Have we ever done an all-time prog poll?

nope

omg that would worth if for the is it prog or is not roffles

^just volunteered to run it

on a related note, my nonstop of jamming on T2's "no more white horses" led me to the thought that maybe they didn't connect with prog audiences cuz they're not really proggy enough? if NY & crazy horse had dropped the same song it'd be a rock classic, and I wouldn't call them prog either.

nah I find prog kinda ridiculous, that wouldn't be good for anybody

xp

just you wait until people nominated Radiohead, The Mars volta and Coheed & Cambria.

http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1970-79a.htm

the allman brothers album was boring. lasted 4 songs

damn, i forgot to vote for simply saucer!

at least you voted!

This is the best version of Wishbone Ash - The King Will Come
http://youtu.be/QBiYnFa79DM
Its from Live Dates (1973)

cheers tom for voting!

i know some dude will be lurking so get yer vote in before you moan at the results sir! ;)

Today's recommendation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWtIaAZL_y0

well i never.
having kept out of this thread due to thinking i had little interest in "hard and heavy weird shit" side of 70s rock, i've just checked the list.
and damn, actually know and love loads - the usual suspects of course
so, there goes my lazy sunday as i have to now figure out the ordering.

hey mark i wish the rest of ilx would realise that. I bet most people could pop in a top 20 at least if they looked at the nominations
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

ps how big is your shortlist?

and of course for those who cant handle ranking you can do
unweighted (all your votes get equal points) or split rankings (rank as many as you want then the rest will get equal amount of whatever amount of points are left)

or just rank them fully.

Whatever suits you all best. Minimum of 20 maximum of 100.

and then do Takin' Care of Business: ILX 70s RAWK TRAX VOTING RULES AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD - VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

on a related note, my nonstop of jamming on T2's "no more white horses" led me to the thought that maybe they didn't connect with prog audiences cuz they're not really proggy enough? if NY & crazy horse had dropped the same song it'd be a rock classic, and I wouldn't call them prog either.

Yes, T2 definitely were a hard rock/prog fusion. But I think it's only because they broke up too soon, not because of their heaviness that stopped them from wider appeal/recognition. Here's the bands that RYM categorized as both hard rock and prog:
Wishbone Ash, Atomic Rooster, Jethro Tull, Rush, Uriah Heep, T2, Night Sun, The Masters Apprentices, Twenty Sixty Six and Then, Time, Warpig, Golden Earring, Budka Suflera. The first half of these have certainly seen success.

The Masters Apprentices - Choice Cuts (1971) - Australian band started out as psychedelic in 1967, moved to England and recorded this. Some heavy moments, but less so than, for example, Jethro Tull. Didn't impress me much. The only album nominated here was Toast To Panama Red (1972), which is even less heavy.

Twenty Sixty Six and Then - Reflections On The Future (1972) - I like this better, German heavy proggers, singer Geoff Harrison has a good, gruff Paul Rodgers style rock n roll voice. Probably not great enough to make my ballot though.

Time - Time (1972) - I think this is a Croatian band, a real bitch to search for obviously, but I found a couple results using the "Istina mašina" song title, will report back.

Man, I'm woozy, prog overload. I've listened to over 20 albums this weekend by Bachdenkel, Out Of Focus (flutes galore), Tetragon (German instrumental prog/pre-math rock), Agitation Free, Area, Renaissance, Curved Air, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso and Le Orme (Italian symphonic prog) along with the previously mentioned. I'm also re-evaluating Hight Tide, Granicus, Hard Stuff, Jericho and Highway Robbery to decide if any should make the ballot.

And also Italian proggers Premiata Forneria Marconi.

I hope you dug the excellent Agitation Free

someone wake up hellhouse!

the main guy from T2 had another good (but folkier) album two year after Boomland-- Keith Cross & Peter Ross- Bored Civilians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ozNSk36m4

oh cool, will check it out.

btw where are all the ILM Chrome and Fall fans?

well, Dragnet is basically my second favorite album ever so I guess that's me

are they going to be the Sonic Youth of this poll?

Actually are the early 80s Fall albums more critically acclaimed than the 70s albums?

The Fall poll is coming up here p soon and everybody's acting like it's going to get a record number of ballots or something, but I think that there's been kind of a silent backlash against them lately, partly because their last record was not v popular, (who can be sure it isn't any good? though that was my gut reaction)

like the 80s was their decade and they only had one song and two albums nominated for that. Like This Nation's Saving Grace didn't get nominated which is kind of crazy if you ask me! Like everybody forgot. Part of that is my fault, considering I was the one who nommed the two Fall albums that did make it--TNSG was my first Fall album and it's good but I didnt quite get it back then, and then later I connected w the 79-83 stuff so deeply that I tend to underrate the Brix stuff--but the fact that nobody even thought to pick up my slack really is kind of weird imho

xp yeah I'd say so

but yeah Dragnet and Early Years are going to place v high on my ballot

Its hard to tell if the fall will place high as their fans on ilm, of which are many, might just go "oh a rock poll im not clicking on it" and miss out (presumably that is why they werent nominated in 80s poll?)
but thats why people need to campaign. It reminds people , especially those who glance through nomination lists. Albums that get campaigned for seem to do best see 80s results for that. It was hardly surprising big black and sonic youth did so well as most chat was about them.
Do people just assume sabbath/led zep/bowie/rush/yes will dominate this poll so dont bother?

Im surprised at the lackof the fall and chrome chat on here. I guess we need hellhouse,stirmonster and edward!

Mind you I never understood the fall love on ilm

man I could probably write a short essay on each one of at least half of the tracks on Dragnet and the surrounding singles explaining why I love that particular one so much, but I really think that would be a bad way to stimulate conversation and convert people who already think this undertaking is a solipsistic wankfest

actually that would be great!

I for one would welcome any dragnet related thesis

Wow, I'm surprised by how much I'm digging Love It to Death after Billion Dollar Babies didn't do much for me beyond the title track. I can totally see how Thurston Moore was into this.

Sund4r do you like Chrome?

I don't know Chrome very well at all.

xp lol no thesis, more like "Flat of Angles always sounded to me like some superamalgam of His Latest Flame (acknowledged rip) and People Funny Boy (unacknowledged maybe nonexistent)" or "seriously guys, my mission to find songs that superficially resembled Psykick Dancehall led me to Liquid Liquid's Optimo, and then Liquid Liquid led me to Fela Kuti, this record really changed my life" or "Dragnet is like Surfer Rosa if Black Francis had been listening to the Upsetters albums instead of arsing about w Husker Du"

I mean, its not false and it prolley isn't bad, but the whole name-tag-genre-influence-signifier game is kind of really up its own ass

I do think that mark s giving us some paragraphs about Dragnet would be a way more awesome treat but I mean

Chrome is v good, Idk which one I like more, Alien Soundtracks or Half Machine Lip Moves

Now Fela Kuti, we need more discussion on him too!

I believe Edward prefers Alien Soundtracks to Half Machine Lip Moves. Something like it pisses over at least half of it anyway.

Is he right?

I just put on Alien Soundtracks, at least the Youtube rip. Did you see some connection to Alice Cooper?

no?

Ha, well, I only asked because you brought it up after I mentioned liking an Alice Cooper album.

AG is worrying that Chrome isn't going to have enough votes. How many are you counting down from Kerr?

Ahhh ok. I did wonder. I had mentioned Chrome before though and was hoping someone might talk about them. They're a band I expect to crack the top 50 in this poll.