oh the other important thing that stems from this vast Heath-Robinson inadequacy is a lack of individual accountability - where the decision-making is delivered not by department but by politburo committee, the notion of responsibility gets diffused. ideal for managers innit.
― fizzles tics (Fizzles), Saturday, 23 February 2013 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
Good posts.
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 23 February 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
God, this cover
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD-_5mSCAAAPoWm.jpg
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
FREE SEEDS indeed
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
Grey haired old man known for wearing ostentatious jewellery and ridiculous clothes, recently accused of sexual offences. And next to him, Jimmy Savile.
― These goons are from Galactor and who gives a s*** (snoball), Monday, 25 February 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
recently accused of sexual offences.
"inappropriate behaviour" does not necessarily = "sexual offences"
― pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
That's true. All he did was abused his position of power to coerce subordinates into doing something that wasn't allowed, and that he'd taken a very public stand opposing. Allegedly.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
If the allegations are true he has clearly abused a position of power and it may even have been illegal but as this point he has not been "accused of sexual offences". I think that's quite an important distinction - I certainly wouldn't want people on the Internet incorrectly claiming I had been accused of crimes.
― pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
"Inappropriate acts" is the wording the Guardian has used, though (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/26/pope-keith-obrien-english-cardinal ) - that isn't a wording which I would ordinarily associate with (say) bullying / fraud / cover-up style "abuses of power".
Also that piece says this:
[Murphy-O'Connor] also refused to comment on whether the fact that O'Brien's accusers were serving or former priests meant it represented a turning point in the abuse scandal for the church leadership.
I read this as the Guardian letting its readers know that the accusations are in the same kind of area as "the abuse scandal". Now, I have no idea about the allegations, and I don't know whether the Guardian have the faintest idea about the allegations; for all I know they're just playing a baseless innuendo game but there are clear newspaperese hints here, wouldn't you say?
― Tim, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
- that isn't a wording which I would ordinarily associate with (say) bullying / fraud / cover-up style "abuses of power".
The allegations are that the acts were of a sexual nature and have been described as "unwanted sexual advances". Again, that is not necessarily illegal but would constitute an abuse of power, as it would in any workplace.
― pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
The allegations are quite widely reported - it's claimed he felt up one priest after a heavy night's drinking, had some kind of mutual homosexual contact with another, and two more have said he came on to them after night prayers. At least one of these alleges that O'Brien used his bishopric to place pressure on them.
It's news because if true then he must be an "aberration", as he famously labelled homosexuals in 2005. He was also Stonewall's 'Bigot of the Year' in 2012 for his position on homosexuality.
The people making the allegation are not claiming illegal acts, as far as I can tell. Their objection seems to be that a man as morally bankrupt and hypocritical as they believe him to be shouldn't be in the college of cardinals choosing the next Pope.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
The people making the allegation are not claiming illegal acts, as far as I can tell.
I know they aren't. That is what I was saying. I was clearly referring to the "accused of sexual offences" post in this thread.
― pacing like a lion, as weightless as an astronaut (onimo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Which is why I was explaining it for Tim.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
And now I understand it! Thanks both, what you're saying makes sense. I hadn't seen the nature of the accusations reported.
― Tim, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/13/dave-lee-travis-re-arrested
"Nazir Afzal, chief crown prosecutor from the CPS, said there would be a wave of very high-profile arrests of celebrities in the coming days"
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
dunno why this thread isn't just renamed rolling celebrity paedo thread
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
it would be libellous?
― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
its not the thread title that would be libellous
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
some of them really are celebrities
― Have fun with your (in complete) (onimo), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
Media reporting "82 year old australian celeb arrested, The Agee/AP not naming names but its p obvious who it is (and another website is naming him). I am a little shocked at this one tbh
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 29 March 2013 06:08 (eleven years ago) link
Age, not Agee.
interesting to note that seven was running news breaks with a VERY OBVIOUS CUT right when the newsreader said 'an australian entertainer'
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:35 (eleven years ago) link
'rofl', i thought
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:36 (eleven years ago) link
haw
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:38 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i thought i'd exercise caution and not name names because altho some offbeat media are, mainstream are queerly not, which speaks to some kind of slander caution Im guessing?
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:39 (eleven years ago) link
maybe it would count as harrisment
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:40 (eleven years ago) link
*harassment
― Esteban Buttiérrez (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 29 March 2013 07:41 (eleven years ago) link
Holy didgeridoos!
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 29 March 2013 07:58 (eleven years ago) link
I do remember that when a roadshow from Australian Customs visited my primary school back when I was a young lad, they gave away comics aimed at us young children that may or may not have featured the entertainer who has been arrested explaining that undeclared fruit could cause havoc on the natural environment.
It's a damn shame that I didn't keep that comic because it would be the perfect time to cash in on eBay.
― Hurry Up, Tell 'Em They're Dreaming (King Boy Pato), Friday, 29 March 2013 08:04 (eleven years ago) link
*looks over shoulder for libel hawks* *dying to post macro*
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 29 March 2013 08:36 (eleven years ago) link
I know right?
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 29 March 2013 08:37 (eleven years ago) link
Mine is a two-frame photo of a man drawing; second frame drawn is a CUTE KITTY.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 29 March 2013 08:41 (eleven years ago) link
oh my. win.
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 29 March 2013 08:57 (eleven years ago) link
He was questioned about 4 months ago, it was reported at the time, just not too widely.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 29 March 2013 09:05 (eleven years ago) link
Trayce, YHFBM.
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 29 March 2013 09:59 (eleven years ago) link
can i have FBM too pls??
― The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Friday, 29 March 2013 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Done. If anyone else is FB friends with Scanner, you'll have seen....
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, 29 March 2013 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
Suzy: got, replied, ta!
― It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Friday, 29 March 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
R---: "Kids, in water, I love them"
Director: "That's not in the script, R---"
― Step not on a loose unforgiving stone on a pyramid to paradise (Tom D.), Friday, 29 March 2013 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
Probably a good thing that Popular has already covered his only UK #1
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 March 2013 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
Trayce, YHFBM.― karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, March 29, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― karl lagerlout (suzy), Friday, March 29, 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Black Metal?
― how's life, Friday, 29 March 2013 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
Worst KMFDM tribute band ever...
― FINNISH HIM! Tuomas wins... (snoball), Friday, 29 March 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
Jimmy Saville is still alive...
from this thread in November
― Habemus opiniones pro vobis (onimo), Friday, 29 March 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
rolfles
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 29 March 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
oh man I swear I knew nothing of this when I made this post
― c21m50nm3x1c4n (wins), Friday, 29 March 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Its the poor bastard kangaroo he had tied down i feel for
― mister borges (darraghmac), Saturday, 30 March 2013 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
any word on who brand named?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4865736/Russell-Brand-accuses-two-UK-showbiz-stars-of-being-paedophiles.html
― NI, Saturday, 30 March 2013 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ hinch
― Devendra Bumhat (sic), Saturday, 30 March 2013 07:31 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
himself, Alan Davies
― don't put the anus on me (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 March 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
So a couple of years a um close relation and her husband, who honestly sometimes have a lot more money than sense or good taste, bought this huge Rolf Harris painting for their living room. They chose it for a variety of reasons I think - honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was the most famous living painter that they could think of - but other than that it matched the sofa, would be an investment for the future (they specifically said this), and also it would be a good talking point when visitors came round. Well they have one of those wishes now I suppose. And they still have the same sofa, so they're ahead of the game still right?
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Friday, 19 April 2013 09:42 (eleven years ago) link