1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

Thanks for voting Michael!

rofl at the results
https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1760&bih=809&noj=1&q=anti+rolling+stone+canon&oq=anti+rolling+stone+canon&gs_l=serp.3...988712.995911.0.996440.24.23.0.1.1.0.201.1345.22j0j1.23.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.4.serp.AU4djcvpuok
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Of the RS all-time top 500: http://www.discogs.com/lists/500-Greatest-Albums-Rolling-Stone/140759, here's most of the ones that are on our spreadsheet of nominations:

7 Exile on Main St.
28 Who's Next
33 Ramones
35 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
41 Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols
44 Horses
49 Fillmore East
69 Led Zeppelin IV
72 Superfly
73 Physical Graffiti
81 The Clash
99 There's A Riot Goin' On
128 Raw Power
130 Marquee Moon
131 Paranoid
139 Rejuvenation
159 Alive!
200 Highway To Hell
207 Abraxis
215 New York Dolls
229 Toys in the Attic
243 Black Sabbath
267 Quadrophenia
300 Master Of Reality
337 Aqualung
370 Mott
382 Modern Lovers
403 Pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd
412 Pink Flag
415 Van Halen
426 Live At Budokan
434 #1 Record
441 Suicide
443 In Color
446 Back In The USA
454 Love It To Death
461 Metal Box
479 Maggot Brain
483 Entertainment!
489 Destroyer
490 Tres Hombres

Cheers.Is there really no Rolling Stone Top Albums of the 1970s list or is it just not online anywhere?

lol or is it just their Top Albums Of All Time are from the 60s and 70s anyway they needn't bother with individual lists from the decades?
And the 80s one exists because it was inferior to the 2 previous decades?

ps should I check out the allman brothers? (if the albums are full of long guitar solos then ffs tell me quick so I can get started!)

Correct, there is no separate 70s list. Aside from yearly lists, they didn't start doing more comprehensive ones until for their 20th anniversary they did the best 100 albums since 1967. It was actually a good guide for me at the time to track down some classics. Allman Bros has some solos. I've tried to get into them, even bought the deluxe version of Filmore, but they just don't do it for me. Overall though I have no problem with the RS canon, as most of the music is good. It's kind of like Rock 101 for beginners.

Here's Pitchfork's:
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5932-top-100-albums-of-the-1970s/

1. Low (David Bowie)
2. London Calling (The Clash)
3. Marquee Moon (Television)
4. There's a Riot Goin' On (Sly and the Family Stone)
5. Blood on the Tracks (Dylan)
6. Trans-Europe Express (Kraftwerk)
7. Led Zeppelin IV (Led Zeppelin)
8. Entertainment! (Gang of Four)
9. Unknown Pleasures (Joy Division)
10. Another Green World (Brian Eno)
11. Exile on Main Street (The Rolling Stones)
12. Fun House (The Stooges)
13. Pink Moon (Nick Drake)
14. Loaded (The Velvet Underground)
15. Who's Next (The Who)
16. Singles Going Steady (Buzzcocks)
17. Maggot Brain (Funkadelic)
18. Bitches Brew (Miles Davis)
19. Ege Bamyasi (Can)
20. Electric Warrior (T. Rex)
21. Histoire de Melody Nelson (Serge Gainsbourg)
22. Pink Flag (Wire)
23. Ramones (Ramones)
24. Here Come the Warm Jets (Brian Eno)
25. Neu! (Neu!)
26. Innervisions (Stevie Wonder)
27. Led Zeppelin III (Led Zeppelin)
28. Let It Be (The Beatles)
29. Tago Mago (Can)
30. On the Corner (Miles Davis)
31. Fear of Music (Talking Heads)
32. The Wall (Pink Floyd)
33. Chairs Missing (Wire)
34. Saturday Night Fever (Various Artists - Film Soundtracks 1975-79)
35. Y (The Pop Group)
36. Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
37. My Aim Is True (Elvis Costello)
38. Drums and Wires (XTC)
39. Suicide (Suicide)
40. The Modern Lovers (The Modern Lovers)
41. Rumours (Fleetwood Mac)
42. Specials (The Specials)
43. Off the Wall (Michael Jackson)
44. The Clash (The Clash)
45. More Songs About Buildings and Food (Talking Heads)
46. Heart of The Congos (The Congos)
47. Call Me (Al Green)
48. Live-Evil (Miles Davis)
49. What's Going On (Marvin Gaye)
50. Starsailor (Tim Buckley)
51. Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (Sex Pistols)
52. This Year's Model (Elvis Costello)
53. Music for 18 Musicians (Steve Reich)
54. Cosmo's Factory (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
55. Bryter Layter (Nick Drake)
56. Future Days (Can)
57. Paul Simon (Paul Simon)
58. A Tribute to Jack Johnson (Miles Davis)
59. Rocket to Russia (Ramones)
60. John Lennon / Plastic Ono Band (John Lennon)
61. Surf's Up (The Beach Boys)
62. The Cars (The Cars)
63. Zuckerzeit (Cluster)
64. Lust for Life (Iggy Pop)
65. On the Beach (Neil Young)
66. Third/Sister Lovers (Big Star)
67. Meddle (Pink Floyd)
68. Head Hunters (Herbie Hancock)
69. Faust IV (Faust)
70. The Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd)
71. The Payback (James Brown)
72. Red (King Crimson)
73. Van Halen (Van Halen)
74. Songs of Love and Hate (Leonard Cohen)
75. Houses of the Holy (Led Zeppelin)
76. Parallel Lines (Blondie)
77. Aladdin Sane (David Bowie)
78. Expensive Shit (Fela Kuti)
79. Sail Away (Randy Newman)
80. Hunky Dory (David Bowie)
81. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars (David Bowie)
82. All Things Must Pass (George Harrison)
83. Raw Power (The Stooges)
84. Nilsson Schmilsson (Harry Nilsson)
85. 154 (Wire)
86. Blue (Joni Mitchell)
87. For Your Pleasure (Roxy Music)
88. From Here to Eternity (Giorgio Moroder)
89. Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! (Devo)
90. Zombie (Fela Kuti)
91. 20 Jazz Funk Greats (Throbbing Gristle)
92. The Man-Machine (Kraftwerk)
93. Band of Gypsys (Jimi Hendrix)
94. Starless and Bible Black (King Crimson)
95. Physical Graffiti (Led Zeppelin)
96. The Idiot (Iggy Pop)
97. The Harder They Come (Jimmy Cliff)
98. Rock Bottom (Robert Wyatt)
99. After the Gold Rush (Neil Young)
100. Before and After Science (Brian Eno)

well I know what you mean but the complaints most have are not what is in the lists but what is left out (jazz,funk , black music in general, metal etc) but yeah thats every poll ever. Inc ilm ones. Its impossible to cater to everyone and RS caters no more to their readership than an ILM EOY poll. The difference is obviously that RS self-proclaims theirs as the most important authoritative definitive list.

I would imagine a Rolling Stone Readers poll would be far far worse than a writers one.

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/publications.htm has a lot less lists than it used to. All the RAW Magazine EOY lists are gone from pre-1992 for example.
They used to have all the CREEM lists but most are gone now too.

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/q_mojo_se.htm#Classic%20Rock

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/q_mojo_se.htm#Cosmic%20Rock%20Albums

For Les Rallizes Dénudés fans
http://youtu.be/BYteF-C4S_o

Lots of good albums on the nom list, but it's hard to argue with Boston - s/t as a perfect album.

Here's a RS reader's poll:

Readers' Poll: Your Favorite Prog Rock Albums of All Time
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-your-favorite-prog-rock-albums-of-all-time-20120725

01. Dream Theater - 'Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory'
02. Rush - '2112'
03. Yes - 'Close to the Edge'
04. Pink Floyd - 'Dark Side of the Moon'
05. Genesis, 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'
06. King Crimson - 'In the Court of the Crimson King'
07. Genesis - 'Selling England By the Pound'
08. Rush - 'Hemispheres'
09. King Crimson - 'Red'
10. Rush - 'Moving Pictures'

Wow.

haha iirc DT posted a link on their site so TD fans 'bombed' the poll. RS readers went from bemused to angry. Everyone else laughed.

pretty sure theres a thread about it on ilm

Queensryche fans must have been gutted they didn't think of that first.

Maybe they did but there just isnt many of them now.

Here's one of my prog faves.

http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/vandergraaf-godbluff.jpg

Van der Graaf Generator – Godbluff (Charisma/Blue Plate, 1975)
Van der Graaf Generator was an enigma from the start, and remain just as mysterious over 40 years later. From the beginning they defied easy categorization. They didn’t fit easily into the niches of psychedelic rock, folk, jazz fusion or progressive rock, yet there were all of those elements and more. At the peak of the punk era, when the bloated circus road shows of Pink Floyd, Yes and Genesis were dismissed by punkers as irrelevant, Johnny Rotten famously gave props to Van der Graaf singer Peter Hammill during a radio show. Mark E. Smith of The Fall was also a fan. It’s easy to hear why. When many prog bands were polishing their schtick into static performances, Van der Graaf Generator embodied that restless, questing spirit that led to constant change. They never played the same songs the same way, often pushing themselves to the point failure, alienating half their audiences. This of course sabotaged their commercial viability, but generated awe and respect mostly among fellow musicians. The early albums showed Hammill’s talents as a worldly lyricist as he tackled mysticism, numerology, religion, science fiction and even the Spanish Inquisition. Pawn Hearts brought the madness to a peak as one of the most uncompromising albums of the early 70s. Experimentation with electronics gave their sound an edge that sounded even more evil than before, creating a truly monumental clash of beauty, chaos and horror. After several exhausting tours of Italy and Europe, the band took a hiatus as Hammill tried his hand at some solo work.

Two and a half years later, they triumphantly re-emerged with Godbluff, which trimmed some of the more dense, show-off instrumentation into sharp, laser focus. Introducing some space to breathe gave the music that much more impact on “The Undercover Man” and “Arrow” with a spare, sinewy rhythm in the opening statement, Hammill’s vocals adding sweeping drama that suggests he may have even been an influence on Ronnie James Dio. At a time when prog was falling out of commercial favor or moving in a pop direction like Genesis, Van der Graaf Generator became even more heavy and uncompromising, with perhaps only King Crimson as comparable peers.

My fave VDGG album!

That's not really a bad prog top 10 IMO, excluding the first spot...

My list would be different though. Hmmm. Have we ever done an all-time prog poll?

nope

omg that would worth if for the is it prog or is not roffles

^just volunteered to run it

on a related note, my nonstop of jamming on T2's "no more white horses" led me to the thought that maybe they didn't connect with prog audiences cuz they're not really proggy enough? if NY & crazy horse had dropped the same song it'd be a rock classic, and I wouldn't call them prog either.

nah I find prog kinda ridiculous, that wouldn't be good for anybody

xp

just you wait until people nominated Radiohead, The Mars volta and Coheed & Cambria.

http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1970-79a.htm

the allman brothers album was boring. lasted 4 songs

damn, i forgot to vote for simply saucer!

at least you voted!

This is the best version of Wishbone Ash - The King Will Come
http://youtu.be/QBiYnFa79DM
Its from Live Dates (1973)

cheers tom for voting!

i know some dude will be lurking so get yer vote in before you moan at the results sir! ;)

Today's recommendation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWtIaAZL_y0

well i never.
having kept out of this thread due to thinking i had little interest in "hard and heavy weird shit" side of 70s rock, i've just checked the list.
and damn, actually know and love loads - the usual suspects of course
so, there goes my lazy sunday as i have to now figure out the ordering.

hey mark i wish the rest of ilx would realise that. I bet most people could pop in a top 20 at least if they looked at the nominations
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

ps how big is your shortlist?

and of course for those who cant handle ranking you can do
unweighted (all your votes get equal points) or split rankings (rank as many as you want then the rest will get equal amount of whatever amount of points are left)

or just rank them fully.

Whatever suits you all best. Minimum of 20 maximum of 100.

and then do Takin' Care of Business: ILX 70s RAWK TRAX VOTING RULES AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD - VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

on a related note, my nonstop of jamming on T2's "no more white horses" led me to the thought that maybe they didn't connect with prog audiences cuz they're not really proggy enough? if NY & crazy horse had dropped the same song it'd be a rock classic, and I wouldn't call them prog either.

Yes, T2 definitely were a hard rock/prog fusion. But I think it's only because they broke up too soon, not because of their heaviness that stopped them from wider appeal/recognition. Here's the bands that RYM categorized as both hard rock and prog:
Wishbone Ash, Atomic Rooster, Jethro Tull, Rush, Uriah Heep, T2, Night Sun, The Masters Apprentices, Twenty Sixty Six and Then, Time, Warpig, Golden Earring, Budka Suflera. The first half of these have certainly seen success.

The Masters Apprentices - Choice Cuts (1971) - Australian band started out as psychedelic in 1967, moved to England and recorded this. Some heavy moments, but less so than, for example, Jethro Tull. Didn't impress me much. The only album nominated here was Toast To Panama Red (1972), which is even less heavy.

Twenty Sixty Six and Then - Reflections On The Future (1972) - I like this better, German heavy proggers, singer Geoff Harrison has a good, gruff Paul Rodgers style rock n roll voice. Probably not great enough to make my ballot though.

Time - Time (1972) - I think this is a Croatian band, a real bitch to search for obviously, but I found a couple results using the "Istina mašina" song title, will report back.

Man, I'm woozy, prog overload. I've listened to over 20 albums this weekend by Bachdenkel, Out Of Focus (flutes galore), Tetragon (German instrumental prog/pre-math rock), Agitation Free, Area, Renaissance, Curved Air, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso and Le Orme (Italian symphonic prog) along with the previously mentioned. I'm also re-evaluating Hight Tide, Granicus, Hard Stuff, Jericho and Highway Robbery to decide if any should make the ballot.

And also Italian proggers Premiata Forneria Marconi.

I hope you dug the excellent Agitation Free

someone wake up hellhouse!

the main guy from T2 had another good (but folkier) album two year after Boomland-- Keith Cross & Peter Ross- Bored Civilians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ozNSk36m4

oh cool, will check it out.

btw where are all the ILM Chrome and Fall fans?

well, Dragnet is basically my second favorite album ever so I guess that's me

are they going to be the Sonic Youth of this poll?

Actually are the early 80s Fall albums more critically acclaimed than the 70s albums?