1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

and its great!

best find along with Stray

Anybody who's into doobie bros style funk rock or csn's "dark star" should check out "love do me right" by Rockin' Horse.
I don't know how to post youtube links on this ipad, sorry.

Listening to T2, ears are smokin. There's a nice 2008 reissue still available.

2008 digitally remastered and expanded reissue of this album featuring three 1970 BBC sessions as bonus tracks. The rise of power trio T2 in 1970 was rapid as they made appearances at virtually every major venue in London. Then their debut album was released; they seemed poised for a breakthrough. As the band recalled, they were playing the Marquee club, with John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix hanging out backstage, which was all to the good. But people were coming forward saying, "we can't find your album anywhere." In short order, the band fell apart. Still, their sole Decca album has become well established as an all-time classic amongst Progressive and Psychedelic music collectors-even the Techno and DJ crowds. The fact that it has done so without hype is a testament to the innate quality of the music. The album is packed with melodic acoustic passages, frenzied fuzz guitar workouts, not to mention acid-trip induced lyrical and musical content. It is, in every way, an extraordinary album, one of Rock music's best kept secrets, on a par with all the other major works that form the rock music canon of the time.

Aquarius:

We KNOW this is gonna be one that the legions of AQ customers into psych, prog and other late sixties/early seventies heaviness will want. And even if that's not one of your primary musical specialties, this would be a good choice to check out anyway if at all curious. British psych/prog power trio T2 released this one amazing album on Decca in 1970, the bizarrely-titled It'll All Work Out In Boomland. Somehow, that LP didn't make much of an impact at the time (although the band did play the Isle of Wight Festival) and has pretty much been forgotten by all except obsessive psych/prog record collectors. Until now, it's been pretty hard to come by - the previous cd reissues we know of were either crappy bootlegs or rare, expensive Japanese imports. We've always wanted to list it, though. So we're very happy that the Lion Productions (US) and Acme Gramophone (UK) labels have just teamed up to put out this nice new reish, which boasts three bonus tracks as well!

T2, composed of drummer/vocalist/songwriter Peter Dunton, guitar whizz Keith Cross, and bassist Bernard Jinks, played HEAVY psychedelic bluesrock (a la Cream, Hendrix, Blue Cheer), mixed with progressive stylings (incorporating acoustic guitar, piano, mellotron, strings). Their songs combine Cross's big fuzzed-out hard rock riffs and psych-skronk leads with mellow, melancholic pretty parts and Dunton's gentle, whispery vocals. Very melodic yet heavy, totally classy and special. For instance, the song "No More White Horses" perfectly weaves amped up electric guitar feedback fury into a tasteful tapestry that also glows with lovely piano and majestic horns. Boomland also features T2's side-long, 21+ minute long masterpiece "Morning", a massive, memorable epic of many moods, a track meant to musically and lyrically describe (or potentially enhance?) an LSD trip, as the text and elaborate diagram included underneath the cd tray explains! There's two other songs on the album proper, the storming opener "In Circles" (which reminds us of stuff on Stray's first album, if you know 'em) and the calmer, exquisitely beautiful "J.L.T.", replete with lush orchestration.

Definitely one of the best bands from those magical years of the early '70s! Certainly one that should be better known. Do you dig the fuzzy, proto-metal heft of the aforementioned Blue Cheer? And also heavy progressive Krautrock stuff like Amon Duul II, Gila, Necronomicon, and Out Of Focus? Well kinda put those two together and you'll have some idea of T2's genius. Or imagine Randy Holden's Population II project gone all symphonic. Also, if you're into early, pastoral British psych/prog like In The Court-era King Crimson, Wishbone Ash, or the more obscure (but recently highlighted here) Bachdenkel then you need to hear T2! And for weird, psychedelic cover paintings, this is up there with Culpeper's Orchard, another lost '70s heavy druggy psych classic that we could compare this with musically as well.

Boomland is the kind of thing that turns up in the personal "Top 10 of All Time" lists of those lucky enough to have heard it. This is an official reissue, done up deluxe with those bonus tracks (live BBC Radio sessions from '70, including two non-album songs among them) and a thick cd booklet crammed with insanely extensive liner notes (excerpted from a book about the album or something) that discuss not just T2's history but also provide in-depth examination of Boomland's songs in regard to both the lyrics and the musical theory behind the compositions. Talk about prog! This goes even beyond the usual thorough Acme/Lion packaging treatment. Highly recommended.

Also available is a self-titled album of demos recorded in 1970 meant to be for their second album:

For years, fans assumed that Boomland was both the beginning and the end of the group's recorded legacy. But Acme Records unearthed an eponymous second album of material, recorded in 1970 with the original line-up as demo tracks for a planned second album. This second T2 album, had it been released in 1970, could have put the band on the same level of fame with the likes of Deep Purple, Free, and King Crimson (bands with whom T2 shared a stage). It's hard-driving opener `Highway,' ablaze with wailing guitars, gives way to moody introspection, culminating with the LSD induced finale, 'T2.'

i neglected to nom this beast of an album (no one would've voted for it anyway) but you guys should check it out. no-frills south american hard rock with killer riffing and balls out drumming.

http://discoeterno.com/magicland/images/Aeroblus_1977_Aeroblus.jpg

http://youtu.be/Fqv9J74f2v4

fun review by some guy on RYM

Another real-time review by LoudandNasty. No edits either, otherwise, how could it be real-time?

Aeroblus - I'm no stranger to this album. I already know it kicks ass. The only question is, at this point, how much ass does it kick.

Track 1 - Motherfucker. Heavy, heavy, heavy. Pappo is the guitarist and vocalist. He's a God.
Track 2 - Slide guitar and some chunky rhythms. 1977. Argentina. Very tight. He sings like Rory Gallagher and the approach is similar, but the bass and drums are more dynamic and, frankly, as much as I love Rory, Pappo is a better guitar player. The breaks at the end only confirm this.
Track 3 - Standard heavy blues progression, but with killer guitar fills at every opportunity. Shit, the second verse adds a harmony guitar, both absolutely screaming. I think I heard a double bass in the shuffle transition, and now it's over. Too soon, this song is serious.
Track 4 - Drum solo intro, amazing player. Fuck, the riff when they come in around 0:30 is super heavy. Power trio and they are for real. First solo, no rhythm guitar overdub, just live in the studio I imagine, and super tight, yet loose at the same time.
Track 5 - An introspective number. Brian May-ish with the bends and note selection. He can sing too. Not pushing any boundaries, but perfect for the tunes. I don't think he picks up off the frets unless he really needs to. Very fluid soloing and very heavy. This is hard rock at it's best brothers and sisters.
Track 6 - This is just amazing. Smoke a bowl and enjoy. You know what I mean.
Track 7 - Oh Please. This riff is too much. Too much. There are overdubbed guitars here to amazing effect. Too much.
Tracks 8-10 - More of the same. Amazing musicians. I bet they were fun to party with and amazing to see live.

I'm giving the album a 5. It's too great. If you don't love this album, then you are a poseur. What's funny is there is no mention of Aeroblus on AMG. Fuck AMG. They are poseurs. I've read their reviews and I think they suck.
Also hear Pappo's Blues, to hear more of this amazing guitarist.

http://open.spotify.com/album/5rapG1i2HxcbyOwtUTnKHe

I'm giving the album a 5. It's too great. If you don't love this album, then you are a poseur. What's funny is there is no mention of Aeroblus on AMG. Fuck AMG. They are poseurs. I've read their reviews and I think they suck.

Over to Ned..

Mr Michael B and others find the ranking part hard/overwhelming. So if you dont wanna rank all 100 then why not do a split ballot?
You rank 20 albums (or whatever number you prefer) and leave the rest (they will get equal points out of whats left)
If you need a further explanation seandalai will be happy to do so.

we do prefer split to unweighted as it will makes ties less likely. I myself did a split ballot.

Anyone have a list of Rolling Stone's Top Albums of the Seventies list? They *must* have done one.

Published in 1993 NME Top 50 Albums of the 1970s.

1. What’s Going On - Marvin Gaye ‘71
2. Never Mind The Bollocks - The Sex Pistols ‘77
3. The Clash - The Clash ‘77
4. Unknown Pleasures - Joy Division ‘79
5. Exile On Main Street - The Rolling Stones ‘72
6. London Calling - The Clash ‘79
7. The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust.. - David Bowie ‘72
8. Horses - Patti Smith ‘75
9. Blue - Joni Mitchell ‘72
10. Marquee Moon - Television ‘77
11. All Mod Cons - The Jam ‘78
12. Hunky Dory - David Bowie ‘71
13. Surf’s Up - The Beach Boys ‘71
14. Bryter Later - Nick Drake ‘70
15. Innervisions - Stevie Wonder ‘73
16. Parallel Lines - Blondie ‘78
17. Moondance - Van Morrison ‘70
18. Lust For Life - Iggy Pop ‘77
19. After The Goldrush - Neil Young ‘70
20. Grievous Angel - Gram Parsons ‘74
21. Who’s Next - The Who ‘71
22. Harvest - Neil Young ‘72
23. Metal Box - Pil ‘79
24. Low - David Bowie ‘77
25. The Specials - The Specials ‘79
26. John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band - John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band ‘71
27. For Your Pleasure - Roxy Music ‘73
28. The Idiot - Iggy Pop ‘77
29. Blood On The Tracks - Bob Dylan ‘75
30. There’s A Riot Goin’ On - Sly And The Family Stone ‘71
31. Pink Flag - Wire ‘77
32. Clear Spot - Captain Beefheart ‘72
33. Berlin - Lou Reed ‘73
34. Imagine - John Lennon ‘71
35. Saturday Night Fever - Original Soundtrack ‘78
36. Another Green World - Brian Eno ‘75
37. Setting Sons - The Jam ‘79
38. King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown - Augustus Pablo ‘76
39. Third/Sister Lovers - Big Star ‘78
40. The Kick Inside - Kate Bush ‘78
41. LA Woman - The Doors ‘71
42. Entertainment - Gang Of Four ‘79
43. Tonight’s The Night - Neil Young ‘75
44. Diana Ross Presents - The Jackson Five ‘73
45. Let’s Get It On - Marvin Gaye ‘73
46. If Only I Could Remember My Name - David Crosby ‘71
47. Marcus Garvey - Burning Spear ‘75
48. Funhouse - The Stooges ‘70
49. First Issue - Pil ‘78
50. The Undertones - The Undertones ‘79

possible no. 1's - sabbath, led zep iv, fun house and metal box

Thanks for voting Michael!

rofl at the results
https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1760&bih=809&noj=1&q=anti+rolling+stone+canon&oq=anti+rolling+stone+canon&gs_l=serp.3...988712.995911.0.996440.24.23.0.1.1.0.201.1345.22j0j1.23.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.4.serp.AU4djcvpuok
http://i.imgur.com/5xggIGv.png

Of the RS all-time top 500: http://www.discogs.com/lists/500-Greatest-Albums-Rolling-Stone/140759, here's most of the ones that are on our spreadsheet of nominations:

7 Exile on Main St.
28 Who's Next
33 Ramones
35 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
41 Never Mind The Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols
44 Horses
49 Fillmore East
69 Led Zeppelin IV
72 Superfly
73 Physical Graffiti
81 The Clash
99 There's A Riot Goin' On
128 Raw Power
130 Marquee Moon
131 Paranoid
139 Rejuvenation
159 Alive!
200 Highway To Hell
207 Abraxis
215 New York Dolls
229 Toys in the Attic
243 Black Sabbath
267 Quadrophenia
300 Master Of Reality
337 Aqualung
370 Mott
382 Modern Lovers
403 Pronounced 'Lĕh-'nérd 'Skin-'nérd
412 Pink Flag
415 Van Halen
426 Live At Budokan
434 #1 Record
441 Suicide
443 In Color
446 Back In The USA
454 Love It To Death
461 Metal Box
479 Maggot Brain
483 Entertainment!
489 Destroyer
490 Tres Hombres

Cheers.Is there really no Rolling Stone Top Albums of the 1970s list or is it just not online anywhere?

lol or is it just their Top Albums Of All Time are from the 60s and 70s anyway they needn't bother with individual lists from the decades?
And the 80s one exists because it was inferior to the 2 previous decades?

ps should I check out the allman brothers? (if the albums are full of long guitar solos then ffs tell me quick so I can get started!)

Correct, there is no separate 70s list. Aside from yearly lists, they didn't start doing more comprehensive ones until for their 20th anniversary they did the best 100 albums since 1967. It was actually a good guide for me at the time to track down some classics. Allman Bros has some solos. I've tried to get into them, even bought the deluxe version of Filmore, but they just don't do it for me. Overall though I have no problem with the RS canon, as most of the music is good. It's kind of like Rock 101 for beginners.

Here's Pitchfork's:
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5932-top-100-albums-of-the-1970s/

1. Low (David Bowie)
2. London Calling (The Clash)
3. Marquee Moon (Television)
4. There's a Riot Goin' On (Sly and the Family Stone)
5. Blood on the Tracks (Dylan)
6. Trans-Europe Express (Kraftwerk)
7. Led Zeppelin IV (Led Zeppelin)
8. Entertainment! (Gang of Four)
9. Unknown Pleasures (Joy Division)
10. Another Green World (Brian Eno)
11. Exile on Main Street (The Rolling Stones)
12. Fun House (The Stooges)
13. Pink Moon (Nick Drake)
14. Loaded (The Velvet Underground)
15. Who's Next (The Who)
16. Singles Going Steady (Buzzcocks)
17. Maggot Brain (Funkadelic)
18. Bitches Brew (Miles Davis)
19. Ege Bamyasi (Can)
20. Electric Warrior (T. Rex)
21. Histoire de Melody Nelson (Serge Gainsbourg)
22. Pink Flag (Wire)
23. Ramones (Ramones)
24. Here Come the Warm Jets (Brian Eno)
25. Neu! (Neu!)
26. Innervisions (Stevie Wonder)
27. Led Zeppelin III (Led Zeppelin)
28. Let It Be (The Beatles)
29. Tago Mago (Can)
30. On the Corner (Miles Davis)
31. Fear of Music (Talking Heads)
32. The Wall (Pink Floyd)
33. Chairs Missing (Wire)
34. Saturday Night Fever (Various Artists - Film Soundtracks 1975-79)
35. Y (The Pop Group)
36. Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
37. My Aim Is True (Elvis Costello)
38. Drums and Wires (XTC)
39. Suicide (Suicide)
40. The Modern Lovers (The Modern Lovers)
41. Rumours (Fleetwood Mac)
42. Specials (The Specials)
43. Off the Wall (Michael Jackson)
44. The Clash (The Clash)
45. More Songs About Buildings and Food (Talking Heads)
46. Heart of The Congos (The Congos)
47. Call Me (Al Green)
48. Live-Evil (Miles Davis)
49. What's Going On (Marvin Gaye)
50. Starsailor (Tim Buckley)
51. Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols (Sex Pistols)
52. This Year's Model (Elvis Costello)
53. Music for 18 Musicians (Steve Reich)
54. Cosmo's Factory (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
55. Bryter Layter (Nick Drake)
56. Future Days (Can)
57. Paul Simon (Paul Simon)
58. A Tribute to Jack Johnson (Miles Davis)
59. Rocket to Russia (Ramones)
60. John Lennon / Plastic Ono Band (John Lennon)
61. Surf's Up (The Beach Boys)
62. The Cars (The Cars)
63. Zuckerzeit (Cluster)
64. Lust for Life (Iggy Pop)
65. On the Beach (Neil Young)
66. Third/Sister Lovers (Big Star)
67. Meddle (Pink Floyd)
68. Head Hunters (Herbie Hancock)
69. Faust IV (Faust)
70. The Dark Side of the Moon (Pink Floyd)
71. The Payback (James Brown)
72. Red (King Crimson)
73. Van Halen (Van Halen)
74. Songs of Love and Hate (Leonard Cohen)
75. Houses of the Holy (Led Zeppelin)
76. Parallel Lines (Blondie)
77. Aladdin Sane (David Bowie)
78. Expensive Shit (Fela Kuti)
79. Sail Away (Randy Newman)
80. Hunky Dory (David Bowie)
81. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars (David Bowie)
82. All Things Must Pass (George Harrison)
83. Raw Power (The Stooges)
84. Nilsson Schmilsson (Harry Nilsson)
85. 154 (Wire)
86. Blue (Joni Mitchell)
87. For Your Pleasure (Roxy Music)
88. From Here to Eternity (Giorgio Moroder)
89. Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! (Devo)
90. Zombie (Fela Kuti)
91. 20 Jazz Funk Greats (Throbbing Gristle)
92. The Man-Machine (Kraftwerk)
93. Band of Gypsys (Jimi Hendrix)
94. Starless and Bible Black (King Crimson)
95. Physical Graffiti (Led Zeppelin)
96. The Idiot (Iggy Pop)
97. The Harder They Come (Jimmy Cliff)
98. Rock Bottom (Robert Wyatt)
99. After the Gold Rush (Neil Young)
100. Before and After Science (Brian Eno)

well I know what you mean but the complaints most have are not what is in the lists but what is left out (jazz,funk , black music in general, metal etc) but yeah thats every poll ever. Inc ilm ones. Its impossible to cater to everyone and RS caters no more to their readership than an ILM EOY poll. The difference is obviously that RS self-proclaims theirs as the most important authoritative definitive list.

I would imagine a Rolling Stone Readers poll would be far far worse than a writers one.

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/publications.htm has a lot less lists than it used to. All the RAW Magazine EOY lists are gone from pre-1992 for example.
They used to have all the CREEM lists but most are gone now too.

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/q_mojo_se.htm#Classic%20Rock

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/q_mojo_se.htm#Cosmic%20Rock%20Albums

For Les Rallizes Dénudés fans
http://youtu.be/BYteF-C4S_o

Lots of good albums on the nom list, but it's hard to argue with Boston - s/t as a perfect album.

Here's a RS reader's poll:

Readers' Poll: Your Favorite Prog Rock Albums of All Time
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-your-favorite-prog-rock-albums-of-all-time-20120725

01. Dream Theater - 'Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory'
02. Rush - '2112'
03. Yes - 'Close to the Edge'
04. Pink Floyd - 'Dark Side of the Moon'
05. Genesis, 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'
06. King Crimson - 'In the Court of the Crimson King'
07. Genesis - 'Selling England By the Pound'
08. Rush - 'Hemispheres'
09. King Crimson - 'Red'
10. Rush - 'Moving Pictures'

Wow.

haha iirc DT posted a link on their site so TD fans 'bombed' the poll. RS readers went from bemused to angry. Everyone else laughed.

pretty sure theres a thread about it on ilm

Queensryche fans must have been gutted they didn't think of that first.

Maybe they did but there just isnt many of them now.

Here's one of my prog faves.

http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/vandergraaf-godbluff.jpg

Van der Graaf Generator – Godbluff (Charisma/Blue Plate, 1975)
Van der Graaf Generator was an enigma from the start, and remain just as mysterious over 40 years later. From the beginning they defied easy categorization. They didn’t fit easily into the niches of psychedelic rock, folk, jazz fusion or progressive rock, yet there were all of those elements and more. At the peak of the punk era, when the bloated circus road shows of Pink Floyd, Yes and Genesis were dismissed by punkers as irrelevant, Johnny Rotten famously gave props to Van der Graaf singer Peter Hammill during a radio show. Mark E. Smith of The Fall was also a fan. It’s easy to hear why. When many prog bands were polishing their schtick into static performances, Van der Graaf Generator embodied that restless, questing spirit that led to constant change. They never played the same songs the same way, often pushing themselves to the point failure, alienating half their audiences. This of course sabotaged their commercial viability, but generated awe and respect mostly among fellow musicians. The early albums showed Hammill’s talents as a worldly lyricist as he tackled mysticism, numerology, religion, science fiction and even the Spanish Inquisition. Pawn Hearts brought the madness to a peak as one of the most uncompromising albums of the early 70s. Experimentation with electronics gave their sound an edge that sounded even more evil than before, creating a truly monumental clash of beauty, chaos and horror. After several exhausting tours of Italy and Europe, the band took a hiatus as Hammill tried his hand at some solo work.

Two and a half years later, they triumphantly re-emerged with Godbluff, which trimmed some of the more dense, show-off instrumentation into sharp, laser focus. Introducing some space to breathe gave the music that much more impact on “The Undercover Man” and “Arrow” with a spare, sinewy rhythm in the opening statement, Hammill’s vocals adding sweeping drama that suggests he may have even been an influence on Ronnie James Dio. At a time when prog was falling out of commercial favor or moving in a pop direction like Genesis, Van der Graaf Generator became even more heavy and uncompromising, with perhaps only King Crimson as comparable peers.

My fave VDGG album!

That's not really a bad prog top 10 IMO, excluding the first spot...

My list would be different though. Hmmm. Have we ever done an all-time prog poll?

nope

omg that would worth if for the is it prog or is not roffles

^just volunteered to run it

on a related note, my nonstop of jamming on T2's "no more white horses" led me to the thought that maybe they didn't connect with prog audiences cuz they're not really proggy enough? if NY & crazy horse had dropped the same song it'd be a rock classic, and I wouldn't call them prog either.

nah I find prog kinda ridiculous, that wouldn't be good for anybody

xp

just you wait until people nominated Radiohead, The Mars volta and Coheed & Cambria.

http://www.acclaimedmusic.net/Current/1970-79a.htm

the allman brothers album was boring. lasted 4 songs

damn, i forgot to vote for simply saucer!

at least you voted!

This is the best version of Wishbone Ash - The King Will Come
http://youtu.be/QBiYnFa79DM
Its from Live Dates (1973)

cheers tom for voting!

i know some dude will be lurking so get yer vote in before you moan at the results sir! ;)

Today's recommendation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWtIaAZL_y0

well i never.
having kept out of this thread due to thinking i had little interest in "hard and heavy weird shit" side of 70s rock, i've just checked the list.
and damn, actually know and love loads - the usual suspects of course
so, there goes my lazy sunday as i have to now figure out the ordering.