1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

just funnin man, your tireless "everybody vote" enthusiasm is cute & made me smile is all

ssooooo is anybody gonna vote for that emerson lake & palmer album?

I see, well dont forget to vote in the sister poll run by the viceroy Takin' Care of Business: ILX 70s RAWK TRAX VOTING RULES AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD - VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

I dont think this poll can compete with Madonna though.

Yeah but Madonna will be over with by 3/8

they said that after her first hit

Has anyone else discovered album(s) they like that they had never heard before?

Pavlov's Dog sounds OK so far but also don't sound very different to me from other American AOR bands that you hate. If someone told me it was an early Styx record, I would have probably believed them.

"doesn't sound... told me that album was an..."

None of them have a song like Song Dance I first heard them when my mate bought a 2 albums in 1 Double LP in the late-ish 90s. At first the vocals made us laugh hard but i grew to love them.

http://youtu.be/bn6PoixRZcs

ok since ILM will be down for a spot of maintenance tonight it would be a great time to do the poll!

k sweet I did nominate Paul Kantner's Sunfighter. First track on that is called "SIlver Sppon" and I have grown irrationally in love with it in the last 24 hours...

http://youtu.be/7Is2OeUZ6Sg

nothing quite sums up 1971 like Grace Slick balls out singing a song she wrote celebrating cannibalism on an album where her infant daughter is on the cover. \m/

Damn, Gary Wilson - YTYRKM is really insane. I got Mary Had Brown Hair when it came out and never really got into it.

one I've not heard of

Has anyone else checked out the Man albums yet?

and we're back

nothing quite sums up 1971 like Grace Slick balls out singing a song she wrote celebrating cannibalism on an album where her infant daughter is on the cover. \m/

I just started listening to that last night. I thought she was singing about wanting to eat her baby! Or maybe about how nursing is kind of like cannibalism?

I've now heard five Man albums and enjoy them, but they will not make my ballot. Not much prog had broken into my top 100 because I'm organizing per the "hard, heavy, loud" factors. Brainticket, Kraan, Walter Wegmuller, Selda, A.R. & Machines, Sand and Erkin Koray haven't shown much of those characteristics either, though I haven't finished listening to all of them. From what I read about A.R. & Machines, it seems the sprawling double album Echo (1972) is their most far-out. I heard half of it last night, it's pretty great, but haven't gotten through the others yet. Les Rallizes Denudes is promising though.

Have you heard Man - Rhinos, Winos and Lunatics yet? That's their best (and not on Spotify)

a few of the tracks are on one of the comps on Spotify like Kerosene but sadly Taking The Easy Way Out Again isn't on it.

Are all of these really ending up on someone's ballot, or did people go a little crazy with the noms??? Please enlighten us if any of these are must-hears!

― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:03 PM (Yesterday)

here are some notes on ones I know and/or nommed, some of these descriptions I'm just c&p'ing from the noms thread which is here for all interested archaeologists: 1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! Nominations ! (ends Oct 17 you slack bastards - jjjusten edit)

Circle X - early industrial/noise rock band, influential on swans and SY

Coum Transmissions - this was genesis p-orridge's pre-TG experimental art group, I nommed them cuz hahaha

Crushed Butler - these guys were kind of like the UK version of death, an unsigned band that had a rocking EP discovered and released decades later, made a big splash in hard rock circles some years back, wouldn't be surprised if they placed.

Demics - canadian punkers, their "new york city" is kind of renowned in canada, and yeah, it's a pretty cool tune: http://youtu.be/wwfkpW63Nj8

Gary Wilson - weirdo outsider soft rock guy who made a comeback in the oughties, I actually dig his recent work more than the original stuff, this pretty much explains it all: http://youtu.be/-AYQyHxhhic

Gaseneta - an early entry in japanese noise rock berserkitude circa 1978, they were a big influence on high rise. sounds like a flying nun band got pumped full of amphetamines and then shot out of a cannon, strong ballot contender for me. entire thing's here: http://youtu.be/we88Aj7RzZ8

Gift - german acid fried riff rock from 1972

Good Rats - long island band, legendary in the northeastern US in the 70s due to their live shows, albums never got much recognition and not much of a legacy to speak of but all boogie blues bandits should prolly check em out

Johnny Moped - are kidding me this guy's f'kn grrreat, a yobbo legend, and frankly this is one of the greatest UK punk songs ever recorded: http://youtu.be/8UI48HKarcY

Legionaire's Disease - off the hook houston punk shit http://youtu.be/xBMUhvBM888

Les Rallizes Denudes - you've been significantly chided about yr blind spot on these guys, there are numerous ILM threads for them if you want to dig in. also they improbably have an album on spotify (improbable because most of their albums were bootlegs). psychedelia gets no heavier.

Monitor - KILLS ME that ppl don't know more about these guys, tho the record's been out of print forever. def a top 10 album contender for me. spooky LA synth punk that I'm almost certain influenced a young kim gordon (who was in art school in LA at the time they were gigging), they were instrumental in getting the meat puppets started on their career, and were part of the LAFMS. plus they have their own ILM thread so you can't even front like they're unknowns: Monitor's - "Monitor"

Satan's Rats - lumped in w/ the UK punk movement but these guys are mostly straight-ahead rock n roll imo, did a string of great singles in '77 and '78 http://youtu.be/YAiQITWuHRQ

Teenage Head - canadian glammy/rockabilly, kind of thunders-damaged stuff, also they were the punk band in the classic motion picture class of 1984 lol http://youtu.be/ahstXVB3BEU

The Drones - mancunian contemporaries of the buzzcocks tho obv y'all will be voting for the latter and not the former

The Gizmos - bloomington indiana's finest! http://youtu.be/JDxTpfmA1pQ

The Hand of Doom - awesome but obscure german band doing stripped down NWOBHM type stuff, just meat n potatoes riffs w/ no nonsense: http://youtu.be/ekQC7B9VDCY

The Kids - underloved belgian punk band, also direct and right on, dig these guys so much: http://youtu.be/mx7dtY4HAwg

Vertical Slit - jim shepard fronted ohio pre/post-punk shit, mutated into V3 who oddly enough ended up on this poll: The 40 Weirdest Post-'Nevermind' Major-Label Albums (according to Spin) . here's my fave vertical slit tune, "living in fear": http://youtu.be/jyTQQYujPyg

Told you that he was responsible for a lot of it!

such filth
http://s3.amazonaws.com/quietus_production/images/articles/9011/cactus_1339318450_resize_460x400.jpg

Proto-trash metal Texas boogie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvBJzHNjb0I

imagine wearing a tshirt of that to school in the 70s

blimey there's a ton of Les Rallizes Denudes on spotify (15 albums or so)
http://open.spotify.com/artist/1LxdCpPSFpzNBKyQI22aDz

wow, a couple months ago I think they only had heavier than a death in the family and blind baby has its mothers eyes

And probably by next week they will all be gone! its 17 btw. I didn't scroll down far enough last time.

Because of this I can see some late ballots with them on it coming.

oh wait,lol. I dont think that album nominated is there.

It's not there, but somebody organized all of the Live '77 YouTube tracks into the correct order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzzC5os7Bpc&feature=share&list=PLgzxmfwIozbbMZOf28-K8Fe-qjkjfwWOa

Crap, I didn't mean to embed that.

live 77 is basically heavier than a death in the family in a different order with an extra track, so spotify will suffice in a pinch

xp

fair enough

and yes please try keep embeds to a minimum

Today's recommendation is
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5A6fSMDiXaI/TTvDgJ24SfI/AAAAAAAAA7E/48NnwGja0B0/s1600/Hipgnosis_-_Wishbone_Ash_-_Argus.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5v2VhaPqn4kydTX06Mdvse

voted! very tough work and some of my rankings may have been a bit impulsive and arbitrary, but as a list it reads pretty accurately, i think. it's just a shame i couldn't find a place for some of the more obscure records.

Thanks! It went through ok.

I cant wait to see the results and have no idea how it looks as I've not seen any interim results yet. One thing I have noticed however is that the albums that get a wee bit of campaigning seem to result in a spike in their votes. So campaign away no matter how obscure as it could make a big difference to the poll. Do not fear campaigning or voting for the obscure as you saw how the 80s poll turned out!
(direct link to full results The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today )

That Argus cover was prominently featured in my 1981 edition of the Illustrated Encyclopedia of Rock! I wondered if they modeled Darth Vader's helmet from that. I only heard the album for the first time less than 10 years ago, and I loved it. Their twin lead guitars were a big influence on Judas Priest, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, etc. I got all their other albums too, and was disappointed that none had Argus' magic, but are still good.

http://covers.openlibrary.org/b/id/6620858-M.jpg

The live album from that time is great. You heard that?

http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/thinlizzy-black.jpg

Thin Lizzy – Black Rose: A Rock Legend (Mercury/Vertigo, 1979)
My order of favorites changes every year. For a while Vagabonds of the Western World (Deram, 1973) was in my top three on the strength of "The Rocker," "Mama Nature Said" and "Little Girl In Bloom." Recently Bad Reputation (1977) overtook Jailbreak (1976) for the #2 spot, but Black Rose has remained my #1. I wrote this in '06:

Like a lot of people, I had written off Thin Lizzy for a long time, because “The Boys Are Back In Town” was one of the most annoying, overplayed songs of the 70s. Knowing that “Jailbreak” was a great song wasn’t quite enough to overcome the prejudice that Thin Lizzy were no better than Foghat, Grand Funk Railroad and Black Oak Arkansas (who all had a decent song or two, but were distinctly uncool). Old metal faves Iron Maiden cited Thin Lizzy as an influence on their twin guitar sound, but I didn’t think anything of it. It wasn’t until the early 90s, when Urge Overkill (Saturation definitely had a nice Thin Lizzy flavor) and Billy Corgan (unfortunately none of Phil Lynott’s soulful charm rubbed off on him) were preaching the greatness of Thin Lizzy. I picked up a cheap vinyl copy of Jailbreak and agreed that it was indeed a classic. Yet it didn’t occur to me for several more years that they might have other great albums. Interestingly, Phil Lynott also haunted the backdrop of the history of punk. In reading interviews and oral histories, Lynott could be found lurking amongst punkers, metalheads and new wavers, inelegantly wasted. There must have been something to his music that would cause such a wide array of countercultural types to respect him.

So I picked up Fighting, Johnny The Fox and Bad Reputation, and realized they’re all great. Thin Lizzy had it all—Dylan’s lyricism, Van Morrison’s Celtic, mystical soul, Springsteen’s working class romanticism and storytelling, Led Zeppelin’s pomp and grandeur, and even Judas Priest’s (via Wishbone Ash's) ass-kicking twin-guitar attack. The last album I picked up was Black Rose: A Rock Legend, and it became my favorite, with a great one-two kick off in “Do Anything You Want To” and “Toughest Street In Town.” More great storytelling and guitar solos throughout, it’s at least as consistent as Jailbreak. With Tony Visconti producing, it’s also their best sounding album. The only tune I don’t like is “My Sarah,” written for his daughter. I also found that their debut album was full of promise, range, and great guitars. And while their 80s work was not the same as the classic run of Lizzy albums, since they were influenced a bit by their NWOBHM progeny, and Lynott’s drug use was getting out of control, they also were quite good. Chinatown was probably the biggest letdown at the time coming off of the amazing Black Rose, but even it has good things to offer, at least in the first half. In his book The Collector’s Guide to Heavy Metal Volume 2: The Eighties, Martin Popoff rated Renegade the fifth best album of that decade. Now that’s just crazy talk. It’s pretty great, but Thunder And Lightning is better. It’s as if Lynott knew his days were numbered and he had to go out with a bang.

What do you think of Phil's electronic stuff?

xp, Yeah I listened to Man's Rhinos, Winos & Lunatics, and it may indeed be their best. I have the double Live Dates (1973) Wishbone Ash, and it's good. Crushed Butler is interesting, Death comparison is apt, but only one song really stood out. I've heard The Drones, and always considered them pretty third rate, especially if you put them up next to Buzzcocks, but I will re-listen. I acquired Gaseneta but forgot to bring to work. I'm most excited to hear Monitor, but also don't have access at the moment. The descriptions of the obscure stuff has been very helpful and I'm enjoying hearing them, but so far none would remotely qualify for my top 100, even Les Rallizes Denudes. Keeping an open mind though!

Phil's solo albums? Mostly terrible, but of interest to hardcore fans.

one of phils solo singles was the 80s theme tune for top of the pops

Live Dates is great!

is the Monitor album on Spotify usa? its not available here anyway

brad c thanks for voting!

Welcome!

You like Ya ho wha 13, AG? Been listening to Penetration: An Aquarian Symphony, and its cool, for sure.Kind of like Hendrix with all the stuffing tore out.

(at least one is. others are more vast instrumental explorations more in the outre Kraut end of the spectrum. kind of like what Sungod was trying to do with some of the more aimless passages in Crash Galactic but better at it)