A thread for the discussion of Nirvana's "Incesticide"

xpost I totally did

No, but I am old so I remember when it came out :(

the thing i realized about this album is that Nirvana's worst songs are better than a lot of bands' best songs.

funny this comes up today. last night, thanks to the recently revived In Utero thread, I spent a post-midnight hour or two watching/listening to Nirvana rarities on YouTube when I should've been working. and I had the same thought. this band could put together, oh, I will guess three 12-track albums of unreleased songs and they would be better than just about anything else.

I am an unabashed Nirvana fanboy, tho.

anyway, Incesticide rules, but not over Nevermind or In Utero. Except for a couple of the ones near the end (not Aneurysm, tho, one of my fave Nirvana sons), this thing is pretty solid top to bottom. Dive -> Son Of A Gun is a killer stretch.

Lots of awesome pre-Bleach stuff on this. "Hairspray Queen" is still a favorite. I think "Aneurysm" is the only Nevermind-era song on this.

this band could put together, oh, I will guess three 12-track albums of unreleased songs and they would be better than just about anything else.

yeah it's kind of a bummer that no one ever thought to release even one more single disc of non-album-tracks as opposed to another bloated 4-CD boxset of boombox demos.

otm

They probably killed any appetite for that when they released that Best of the Box disc that wasn't even

i kinda got into Nirvana (a little) late and in a weird way, because when they first came out I was more partial to Pearl Jam and Soundgarden -- Nirvana didn't win me over until "Heart-Shaped Box," so the first album i got by them was In Utero, and the 2nd i got was Incesticide. didn't get Nevermind until months later, after Kurt's death. so my introduction to "Polly" was the Incesticide version.

This was the only nirvana album at my local library (I want to listen in on the meeting where they decided this would be the one rock purchase for the year)
I remember thinking Molly's lips was clearly the best song on it and if they made it a radio single, they'd be rich!

They probably killed any appetite for that when they released that Best of the Box disc that wasn't even

yeah i assumed that's what this was going to be.. all the non-album tracks. instead they maintain this attitude that "no one will buy a Nirvana CD that doesn't have a version of teen spirit or all apologies"

yeah I didn't get that

so much good stuff on that box and they create the 9000th generic best of

lots of great songs on incesticide and the box

i need to make a master playlist of Nirvana songs i like and am not sick of, nurture my appreciation of the band back to an appropriate level

I hardly ever listen to the proper albums anymore (waaaay overplayed during my teenage years) but I actually do still listen to and enjoy Incesticide from time to time. I don't think it's any more uneven a collection of songs than any of their other records, tbrr.

as of the past year or 2, i've mostly been listening to "return of the rat" "curmudgeon" "oh the guilt" "if you must" "the money will roll right in" and "endless nameless." i've still never felt burnt out on any of those and they're all pretty sick. i'm assuming some of those would have ended up on an imaginary "Incesticide 2."

Yeah, I don't get why it's so hard to put those tracks, and all the other never-released songs that sound like actual songs together with essential B-sides like "Sappy" and "I Hate Myself." There's more than enough good stuff for a great Incesticide 2.

if you must is my favorite nirvana b-side. so creepy and so distinctly cobain. amazing it's one of the first songs they wrote together.

I've always wanted to hear the full version of this, if such a thing exists!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3kOD77pKuw

Also: "Even In His Youth." Essential Nirvana song, yet somehow it didn't make Incesticide, and the non-WTLO version of it isn't as available as it should be

IM SICK OF BEING MOTHERLOVE BONE

man Turrican should poll Been a Son vs Sliver or something

re: Even In His Youth, i kinda like that they had songs exclusively left as b-sides.. and the teen spirit CD single wasn't hard to find. IIRC CD singles for Nirvana Pearl Jam and NIN were in demand in mid-90's and got reissued because of rabid fans hunting down the b-sides.

Oh man, when the Jeremy single was no longer a "Rare Import" and just anybody could have access to Yellow Ledbetter, that was the real day that grunge died.

Can't somebody on this thread who's good at ripping and uploading and general computing put together an "Incesticide 2" for the rest of us?

if you're on the spotify...

http://open.spotify.com/user/nardwuar/playlist/18uFp8ad0QqjayY0YWAdq8

So glad you got "Pay to Play" on there. Exactly the type of track that should have been on the box but wasn't

Good playlist, although I sense a difference between "Incesticide" and standard b-sides collections. The sequencing and song choices make it feel like an album, similar to Pieces Iscariot.

why is the version of "I Hate Myself and Want to Die" that's on the boxed set so much worse than the one on "The Beavis and Butthead Experience"?

looks like the final version isn't on spotify.

"Marigold" . . . so gorgeous . . . ;_;

lyrics are terrible

the version of marigold on pocketwatch is more charming, i think. just grohl singing and playing by his lonesome (which might also be the case on the in utero version, but it still seems less casual)

marigold is so good, i love it.

"MV" should be somewhere near the end IMO.

I just posted this thread yesterday:
Mark Lanegan - The Winding Sheet (1990, Sub Pop Records)

Can't help but feel that this record was a huge influence on the band's post-Bleach sound, especially this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOsG58MS4o

When I was at college we were doing vocal warm-ups as a group and at one point our tutor was like "now go down to the lowest note you can get to", and one the guys was like "ah, the 'Moist Vagina' sound!"... this woman on the course then turned to him and went "how the hell do you know?" :'''D

Love Incesticide, particularly the second side. It's so fucking dirty.

I dont care anything about any box or Incesticide 2: can we all agree that VCV and Hate Myself should be automatic bonus tracks on any reprintings of In Utero henceforth?

xp really, dl? second side of Insecticide is kind of a big long slog for me

why is the version of "I Hate Myself and Want to Die" that's on the boxed set so much worse than the one on "The Beavis and Butthead Experience"?

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, February 19, 2013 3:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I completely disagree with this btw, but then again it isn't the first time I've butted headz with the 'police so

anyways sorry for bombing the thread

2 minute sock interval

I dont care anything about any box or Incesticide 2: can we all agree that VCV and Hate Myself should be automatic bonus tracks on any reprintings of In Utero henceforth?

and then why not include "MV"?

I wouldnt oppose that

xp really, dl? second side of Insecticide is kind of a big long slog for me

― harvester of lols (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 20 February 2013 07:53 (1 hour ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to it in a long while, but dude it's got Aneurysm on it, which is secretly their best song. And I'll always have a soft spot for Hairspray Queen. The first side is almost as poppy as Nirvana get, but the second side is a total noise fest.

heh I think I have 7 volumes of Outcesticide on my HD.

it's a purposeful mess, and i don't think it holds together as a complete listen, and as much as i love sludge the second side is a sloooooog. but the riff to aero-zeppelin gets stuck in my head for days and just won't shift.

the 2nd side is great!

Version of Aneurysm on the Teen Spirit single > the version of Aneurysm on this.

My vote for the hidden track in the imaginary Incesticide II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moUU4LkuvaY

Have we ever done a Nirvana tracks poll?

I haven't heard those b-sides in years, and this thread inspired me - but my boxes of CDs with the singles are in another country.
I had a look on iTunes and the singles aren't on there - is there any legitimate way to buy them, alone or collected, outside of eBay/Discogs/that sort of thing?

don't remember when i listened to it last, but the couple of nirvana thread revives + old groups putting out new material (mbv, cornelius) made me think the timing is right to listen to it again. i always preferred it to bleach , lots of weird, acid moments that makes me think of other contemporary noise rock stuff. would have liked in utero to get further in that direction but i liked it as it is.

i always forget how good nirvana actually are until i decide to listen to them (which is about once every 1-2 years on average)

nirvana scratches an itch that no other band i have found can scratch.

you should prob see a doctor

nah, i'm just gonna put some incesticide on it and see it that doesn't fix the problem

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or maybe some bleach.

Hairspray Queen has always been a fave off of this, but listening back for the first time in ages the other day, strikes me just how good it is. Never realised how new-wavey it is, like a heavy metal version of Devo or something.

The last four songs are a great run, some of the weirder tracks Nirvana recorded - though I've heard a lot of hate for Aero Zeppelin.

love aero zeppelin, proper neandergenius

Vox on Hairspray Queen have always reminded me of Bobcat Goldthwait.

I never listen to this one, primarily because of Hairspray Queen. Only tracks that I love are Dive and Aneurysm. Don't care or can't remember the rest of them. It was like, oh I have heard a cz records compilation before.

Some days it's my favourite. A few dull tunes on the first side but it's Nirvana at their most unhinged and splintering. Don't you even like Sliver, How's Life?

I really don't like Sliver. :D

On first listen I had presumed it to be one of the many cover songs.

I don't particularly like Sliver.

Incesticide was my introduction to the whole outtakes/b-sides stopgap thing, and it does the whole concept prouder than any other such collection I've heard unless the bonus tracks on the Pavement reissue series count. It rules, FUIUD.

Somehow I never stopped and *hits bowl* really listened to "Beeswax" until like 3 years ago. now it's one of my favorite Nirvana songs. i love this performance of it (ostensibly they played mostly rarities and abandoned songs on purpose at this show to piss off the misogynistic crowd):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0IC1uQjHMY

That specific version of "Beeswax" is one of their best songs.

probably because Grohl improves on the original drumming

Yeah, and Kurt's singing and guitar playing are much better. The version on Insecticide is pre-Bleach. Shame they didn't play it ever again after that Argentina show.