Azealia Banks

Um, I don't know...maybe people who write about music and make lists of the top rappers of all time? I rarely, if ever on these lists, see a great deal of time spent on Eminem's homophobic lyrical content. If it is, it's usually accompanied by some crap about his duet with Elton and how that somehow excuses it...along with that "talent" and "charisma".

what happened?

i have no fucking clue

it's usually accompanied by some crap about his duet with Elton and how that somehow excuses it...along with that "talent" and "charisma".

I guess I missed these think pieces...?

No, balls. No.

^^^ Em and Tyler's agegnda

i mean i'll grant his homophobia doesn't completely define him (though he's obv aware and unrepentant about it being a part of his arsenal, cf roman's revenge), but it defines him more than say ice cube's issues w/ koreans defines him. that azealia banks is defined more by her bigotry is due to their being little else to define her - she had one youtube hit forever ago and she rants about gays on twitter, that's her public persona to the small segment of the public that's even aware she exists. if m.i.a had only had 'galang' and anti-gay rantings on livejournal that'd be her legacy also. that ppl even care at this point is due less to banks continuing to dig (cuz really, who still think's we're looking at a 'career artist' or whatever here?) than reddit types like juzwiak or slappy here feeling the need to defend or spin it. she's a bigot and a moron, there's no interesting takes to be plumbed from it.

otm

can you link to one of these lists that has eminem listed as one of the greatest rappers of all time and mentions his duet w/ elton john but doesn't mention his use of SHOCKING language. did larry king write it?

straight guy chides gay guys for not being sensitive enough to homophobia

actually that's the London Cunt in the U.S.

― 'glown' with the king (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:04 (23 minutes ago)

rejected madonna album titles

srsly you gays need to wake up, homophobia's all around in case you didn't notice

wake up queeple

lol

yeah rev no offense but goon squadders rallying to spin whoever's being bigoted on twitter today is so par for the course that i can't even pay it any mind any more, reddit at least has some 'influence' in the world at large and is worth passively detesting, goon squadders are only respected by other goon squadders, why bother. someone could maybe write something on the role white male critics had in giving a free pass to various bigotries in hip hop and how it continues on today w/ j0rdan, deej, whiney, whatever white critsetc (the last one encouraging it), but considering the increasingly shrinking number of ppl who can make a living from or who care about music crit or hip hop it's probably not worth it.

'reddit types'!

lol@ you taking your reddit frustrations out on me.

Why are you acting like I don't know she's a bigot and a moron? Once again, I'm not defending her, but I think it helps to put her ignorance into context, which is what my first post was attempting at. I'm not excusing, spinning, or justifying. Where did I say it was perfectly ok to toss around the word 'faggot'? I can condemn her language and attempt to understand the thought behind it at the same time. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The article you seek, is here (the publication sucks, but my point is still valid)

http://www.complex.com/music/2012/08/the-30-best-rappers-in-their-30s/eminem

Not only is he their number one, but there's not a single mention of his homophobic lyrical content. And just over ten comments in, you have someone dropping 'faggot' as if it's nothing...

Yeah, I see what you meant about 'progress' earlier. I guess if you're not on the receiving end of all this progress, it's easier to see.

posting that list is super ironic given the salvo just launched

the fact this debate is occuring between two ppl named "balls" and "Cousin Slappy" gives it a weird vibe

lol

http://wellness.nysbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/victory-main_full.jpg

well back to the lab. evening yall!

goon squatters

balls, slaps, flops

in the real world using that kind of language will make it impossible for them to hold a job (unless they work in silicon valley),

I lol'd

mostly cuz yeah no racism/homophobia on say wall street or the movie industry etc

also "queeple" has redeemed this thread, well done some dude

Goon Squatters lol

tbh i am v surprised that juz is a 'reddit type'

queeple get ready

"queeple" sounds like a collective term for group of Moby Dick fanatics

"Moby Dick fanatics" sounds like a euphemism for queeple

"Man I went to a queeple party last saturday, I got fucked up molly and some dude from Germany ishmaeled me in the bathroom"

cf: people who queef

i am NOT from germany fyi

Queepaly then?

notice he does not deny ishmaeling someone in the shithaus

oh look here comes a "that was a joke," everybody, wave to it!

er that was THE joke

who is giving a free pass to bigotry?? wtf?

& fwiw ive never repped for anything azealia banks as is evidenced by this thread

denying me the pleasure of writing "ishmaeling someone in the shithaus" is very undudelike

I thought the biggest Banks booster around here was lex fwiw. don't recall goon squatters really caring about her one way or the other

i think balls is just implying we're apologizing for bigotry because .... ?

He can't even answer that.

i disagree with balls' characterization of goonsquatters but i am glad we have a true enemy in the era of Mordy & the thrilling debate itt are the rolling hip-hop threads racist?

you can't blame Mordy for those results tho tbrr

i actually hadn't seen the results til just now--i only blame mordy for being boring!

i don't think the position is indefensible, i just don't find it a very interesting one when no one is, like, defending it. aside from it being a thread where people discuss gangster rap, i do wonder what about the content of the thread is seen as racist by ilxors. maybe that seems naive but rejection of gangster rap music is not a position i associate with ilx, but maybe more people feel that way than i've imagined, or maybe there's something about the way we post about it that ppl feel is racist... any of that would have been more interesting than what we got

anyways i'm glad to have an angry dude who writes a lot of words on our nuts v.s. smug cultural studies dude, is all

ha i'd bet money every goon voted yes

lol yeah I kinda guessed that too

and there is basically no discussion in the poll thread so yeah I don't know what the majority of voters were thinking