Azealia Banks

elton john's out of her league, maybe rufus wainwright is available

but hey maybe rural alabama is more progressive and has better schools than where mr slappy subs and they throw up their hands at kids using bigoted language and think 'well, kids don't always follow the preferred narrative! whattya gonna do?' instead of maybe pointing out to these kids that in the real world using that kind of language will make it impossible for them to hold a job (unless they work in silicon valley), maybe discipline and guide them, maybe even teach them (call it a 'teachable moment' maybe). maybe mr slappy subs in mississippi.

who exactly forgot eminem is a bigot?

You really need to de-crabbify your cunt. You are projecting extra hard this morning. I can't even be offended because it's like you're not even responding to what I wrote.

looks like that cunt's gettin' de-crabbified

iirc ppl mostly stopped caring about Eminem because he was spending most of his time yelling "I LUV U" at his daughter, so he said some homophobic shit on a Nicki Minaj song and threatened to beat up Rihanna on "Love the Way You Lie" to become noteworthy again

that was sooner than I expected lol

the more I think about it the more feeble comparisons between f-word and n-word use seem, if alone for the fact that few ppl are secretly black

oh man you dropped the c-word, leveling up huh

it's ok to say on the azealia banks thread, pass it on

yeah it's never an especially useful parallel, but they're also probably the most powerful and prevalent slurs against minorities that constantly get thrown around and debated about, so they'll always be twinned to some extent. the Blur and Oasis of hate speech. (xp)

slappy was there another homophobic rapper who did a duet w/ elton john and their bigotry was forgotten? are you referring to axl rose here - do a duet with Elton John and I'm sure we'll all forget...just like last time?

yeah it's never an especially useful parallel, but they're also probably the most powerful and prevalent slurs against minorities that constantly get thrown around and debated about, so they'll always be twinned to some extent. the Blur and Oasis of hate speech. (xp)

does that make c-word the Suede of hate speech

actually that's the London Cunt in the U.S.

No, balls. No.

Eminem is still listed as the best rapper of all time, for many people (not myself, obv). No one associates his name with his homophobic lyrics these days as often as you'd like to think. And if they do, they down-play that fact with gushing over his "talent' and "charisma".

who is 'they' here?

Um, I don't know...maybe people who write about music and make lists of the top rappers of all time? I rarely, if ever on these lists, see a great deal of time spent on Eminem's homophobic lyrical content. If it is, it's usually accompanied by some crap about his duet with Elton and how that somehow excuses it...along with that "talent" and "charisma".

what happened?

i have no fucking clue

it's usually accompanied by some crap about his duet with Elton and how that somehow excuses it...along with that "talent" and "charisma".

I guess I missed these think pieces...?

No, balls. No.

^^^ Em and Tyler's agegnda

i mean i'll grant his homophobia doesn't completely define him (though he's obv aware and unrepentant about it being a part of his arsenal, cf roman's revenge), but it defines him more than say ice cube's issues w/ koreans defines him. that azealia banks is defined more by her bigotry is due to their being little else to define her - she had one youtube hit forever ago and she rants about gays on twitter, that's her public persona to the small segment of the public that's even aware she exists. if m.i.a had only had 'galang' and anti-gay rantings on livejournal that'd be her legacy also. that ppl even care at this point is due less to banks continuing to dig (cuz really, who still think's we're looking at a 'career artist' or whatever here?) than reddit types like juzwiak or slappy here feeling the need to defend or spin it. she's a bigot and a moron, there's no interesting takes to be plumbed from it.

otm

can you link to one of these lists that has eminem listed as one of the greatest rappers of all time and mentions his duet w/ elton john but doesn't mention his use of SHOCKING language. did larry king write it?

straight guy chides gay guys for not being sensitive enough to homophobia

actually that's the London Cunt in the U.S.

― 'glown' with the king (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 February 2013 20:04 (23 minutes ago)

rejected madonna album titles

srsly you gays need to wake up, homophobia's all around in case you didn't notice

wake up queeple

lol

yeah rev no offense but goon squadders rallying to spin whoever's being bigoted on twitter today is so par for the course that i can't even pay it any mind any more, reddit at least has some 'influence' in the world at large and is worth passively detesting, goon squadders are only respected by other goon squadders, why bother. someone could maybe write something on the role white male critics had in giving a free pass to various bigotries in hip hop and how it continues on today w/ j0rdan, deej, whiney, whatever white critsetc (the last one encouraging it), but considering the increasingly shrinking number of ppl who can make a living from or who care about music crit or hip hop it's probably not worth it.

'reddit types'!

lol@ you taking your reddit frustrations out on me.

Why are you acting like I don't know she's a bigot and a moron? Once again, I'm not defending her, but I think it helps to put her ignorance into context, which is what my first post was attempting at. I'm not excusing, spinning, or justifying. Where did I say it was perfectly ok to toss around the word 'faggot'? I can condemn her language and attempt to understand the thought behind it at the same time. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

The article you seek, is here (the publication sucks, but my point is still valid)

http://www.complex.com/music/2012/08/the-30-best-rappers-in-their-30s/eminem

Not only is he their number one, but there's not a single mention of his homophobic lyrical content. And just over ten comments in, you have someone dropping 'faggot' as if it's nothing...

Yeah, I see what you meant about 'progress' earlier. I guess if you're not on the receiving end of all this progress, it's easier to see.

posting that list is super ironic given the salvo just launched

the fact this debate is occuring between two ppl named "balls" and "Cousin Slappy" gives it a weird vibe

lol

http://wellness.nysbs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/victory-main_full.jpg

well back to the lab. evening yall!

goon squatters

balls, slaps, flops

in the real world using that kind of language will make it impossible for them to hold a job (unless they work in silicon valley),

I lol'd

mostly cuz yeah no racism/homophobia on say wall street or the movie industry etc

also "queeple" has redeemed this thread, well done some dude

Goon Squatters lol

tbh i am v surprised that juz is a 'reddit type'

queeple get ready

"queeple" sounds like a collective term for group of Moby Dick fanatics

"Moby Dick fanatics" sounds like a euphemism for queeple

"Man I went to a queeple party last saturday, I got fucked up molly and some dude from Germany ishmaeled me in the bathroom"

cf: people who queef

i am NOT from germany fyi

Queepaly then?