not defending her at all, but i think she's trying to make the (lame) argument that the word (to her) has a meaning totally disassociated from gay people.
― keef qua keef (Jordan), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
she is the fucking worst
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
YUNG RAPUNXEL @AZEALIABANKSWe are all entitled to our own truths. :)
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
that is fucking rage-inducing
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
she also feels entitled to take other people's music and put shitty, energy-sucking raps over them, which I guess is just her exercising her own truth
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
i'm with jordan on this, though tbf i hadn't seen that series of tweets and they're fucking stupid and your derision is appropriate and earned; my bad
i try not to pay attention to the social media of anyone who i'm interested in artistically it serves me well
― Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
It hurts to side against her given the target this time was one of the few gay men I'd be fine calling a colloquialism to his face.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
no one is saying Perez shouldn't die in a fire along with her
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i'm pretty convinced that she wouldn't be remotely as well known or talked about right now, 18 months after the one song people were really enthusiastic about, if she didn't constantly pull this kind of shit, so good for her i guess? well-behaved women seldom make your RSS feed.
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
i think the most generous interpretation is that she is trying to make a disctinction between "gay people" & "faggots" the same way chris rock once distinguished "black people" from "n****rs"
because we all know how well that concept worked out once white people got a hold of it
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
azealia hittin new lows!!!!!! damn she is a dumb fuck
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
She's right tho. Society has really come to embrace n***** as a colloquialism. Why my grandmother greets me with "Hi, n*****!" every time she answers the phone.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
on top of which, she uses emoticons
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
how dare you say that about Eric's grandmother
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
that's how we know Eric's grandmother is kidding
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, well, she's the product of a different era.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
why tim dog and not azealia? god is a crul ringmaster
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
she's terrible. hope her record never comes out.
― teledyldonix, Friday, 15 February 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
i can't see really getting too wrapped up in someone that basically had a fun youtube one-hit-wonder more than a year ago.
― 'glown' with the king (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
she's really inept at forming this argument
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 February 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
i think she has an arguable position but....... yeah
my problem with her argument is that she's just parroting the exact same things said by people like eminem and tyler, the creator and i don't think her queerness really strengthens the position at all.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 February 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think her queerness actually exists.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
well i'm not gonna get into that one
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 February 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
the argument she's making about language has been comprehensively shot into the sun several thousand times. did dinosaurs and humans ever co-exist? hey you can make the argument.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
her problem is that she's conflating one defensible argument (it's okay for queers to use the word "faggot") with a whole other very indefensible argument (it's okay for everyone to use "faggot" because it just means you're a backstabber)
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 February 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
imagining the o'jays "backstabbers" with new lyrics
― keef qua keef (Jordan), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
speaking of tyler, he still uses the f-word constantly, does he just get a free pass on that because of frank now or what
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
Not defending her or anyone else, but don't rappers always toss around the word 'faggot' as often as 'nigga' and people still twerk to it as if they didn't hear those words? Why is it, that a female rapper is getting heat for something that is par for the course, not just in hip hop, but for life for some people. I know many people, from the hood to the suburbs, who toss around 'nigga' and 'faggot' as if they have no historical meaning whatsoever. I hear Filipino, Latino, and everyone else use 'nigga' as their equivalent to 'dude' and it's rare for someone to jump up and be vocally defensive about it because a lot of people, for better or worse, don't grant those words the same power we all collectively once did. Especially the generation born in the late 80's, early 90's. Is her use of the word ignorant? Of course! She is like so many troubled girls I grew up with (who went on to audition for Bad Girls Club) that are angry and defensive as hell and are not interested in anyone's rules of decorum. As a black faggot myself, I hate that someone who is supposed to be a part of my community is spreading ignorance in the way AB is. I don't think it's ever ok to excuse the use of 'faggot' in a derogatory manner. You just give certain people all the more reason to be ignorant and run with it (i.e. Chris Rock and his nigga vs black people argument).
Side note: Why does this dumb ass ALWAYS take the bait? On Twitter, you let the stans defend you! Like, does she not pay attention? People were looking for reasons to justify their hatred of her and she just keeps helping them. Fucking insane.
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
buttstabbers, morelike
― how's life, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
well as to your final point, it keeps her name in the news despite her only notable song being like 1.5 years old
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 February 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
the generation born in the late eighties and early nineties is LESS apt to use those words!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
Are you from America?
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
i believe alfred is
― 'glown' with the king (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
from a little town called "Florida"
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
so, barely
i get uneasy when gays throw the word "fag" around like it's nothing but maybe that's a personal thing
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 February 2013 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
granted I work and teach in a university so I could be protected from the kids saying the f and n words
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
the word "nigga" is a scourge
― Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
I know many people, from the hood to the suburbs, who toss around 'nigga' and 'faggot' as if they have no historical meaning whatsoever. I hear Filipino, Latino, and everyone else use 'nigga' as their equivalent to 'dude' and it's rare for someone to jump up and be vocally defensive about it because a lot of people, for better or worse, don't grant those words the same power we all collectively once did.
michael richards will be relieved to hear about this
― unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
I taught American History to high schoolers and subbed at jr. high. These kids give no fucks about using those words. They don't even seem aware that they should.
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
Micheal Richards doesn't matter. And way to take my comment out of context to make it sound like I'm excusing the language.
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
w/ teachers like you whatta surprise
― balls, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
If they're born in the late eighties or early nineties and in college they don't use thise words, not around here. Plus, my university has a massive anti fag means stupid campaign
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
I do need to get a move on the butthurt=awesome campaign
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Plus, my university has a massive anti fag means stupid campaign
would like to see the posters for this
― keef qua keef (Jordan), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
I get yr larger point, but saying that nobody cares about the n-word or f-word seems kinda idealistic, if a popular white rapper dropped an album w/ the n-word all over it the ppl who care would outnumber the ppl who don't. plus I imagine only half the rappers who throw the f-word around are secretly gay, that's a problem.
xps
― unprepared guitar (Edward III), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Justin_Sane_01.jpg/800px-Justin_Sane_01.jpg
― how's life, Friday, 15 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
whoasorry thought you said "Anti-Flag". nevermind. continue.
Point is, I only use "f*****" as a f***** and directed toward other f*****s who I like. Which is near-diametric to how AB played it.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 15 February 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link