The Boo Radleys, Classic or Dud?

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When artists 'give-in' to their baser instincts, (ta, Eno!) and then live to regret it/

Mark G, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

It's very 1995 though, isn't it? I get the same feeling from it as I do whenever I listen to Grand Prix, it always reminds me of that specific year. I don't really get the same feeling of "this sounds like a specific year" whenever I listen to C'mon Kids.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

squeaky brass was a britpop trait. brass seems to be making a bit of a comeback, but it's deeper and lower. imo anyway.

dog latin, Friday, 8 February 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

btw, i'm going to do an artist poll for the Boo Radleys. it will come up sometime in the next five year.

Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

61. Iggy Pop, incl. Stooges - flopson
62. Boo Radleys - Bee OK
63. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 February 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

that is a joke, hopefully it won't be in five years.

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 February 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link

Well, the poll/ballots have really slowed down lately

Mark G, Saturday, 9 February 2013 08:51 (eleven years ago) link

Looking forward to it. I think a boo Radleys poll was what started the idea of that coordination thread.

dog latin, Saturday, 9 February 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yep, will undoubtedly be participating in it... and then the XTC poll afterwards!!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 9 February 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Well, the poll/ballots have really slowed down lately

well it does stop every time in late December for the end of the year stuff. it does gets going again about now.

i'm going to do New Order at 36, starting to feel the pressure...

Bee OK, Sunday, 10 February 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

"Giant Steps" is mostly a classic. Wake Up is hit or miss. Their talent didnt always match their Mcacartney-like ambitions to dabble in all genres but even the Boos failures had their charm.

Cunga, Sunday, 10 February 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

Re. the hit and miss aspect of the Boos (which I agree), I'd say Carr took on too much himself really. I know most bands usually have a talisman or whatever, but they had scope and ambition beyond many of their contemporaries (especially when you get to around 1995) that was...kind of realised.

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 10 February 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

they could've made artistically smaller albums that would've hit the sweet spot for this or that niche or indie ghetto, but the Boos seemed to want to make a pop record, like the kind that were common in the 60s, that could blow minds with its scope and innovation and ability to have something for everybody. Didn't obviously work, but I'm glad they tried.

Cunga, Sunday, 10 February 2013 07:24 (eleven years ago) link

Well, "kingsize" did that, but it came too easy to MCarr and he wanted to try/ fail at more difficult things

Mark G, Sunday, 10 February 2013 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

he's playing at the lexington next week. really wish i could go but got an important band practice :-( :-(

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Friday, 24 October 2014 08:48 (nine years ago) link

are we still doing a boos poll?

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link

Yes, it will happen probably February 2015.

Bee OK, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link

'Reaching Out From Here' still does it for me after all these years.

Welcome To (Turrican), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

because of that nugget, i posted above, i dug out Find the Way Out comp today. this band is so fucking good. stuff like "The Finest Kiss," "Spaniard," "Best Lose the Fear" and "I've Lost the Reason" are all magnificent.

Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

can't wait for February to do this poll.

Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

Don't forget Fosters Van. Those early EPs have so many glorious moments.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link

'Reaching Out From Here' still does it for me after all these years.

― Welcome To (Turrican)

Beautiful song. Should have been the second single after Wake Up Boo.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link

Don't forget Fosters Van. Those early EPs have so many glorious moments.

― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin)

Swansong is my favourite from those first three EPs. The verse is a bit too similar to Fade to Grey by Visage but it's one of those great sad songs they did so well.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

Don't forget Fosters Van.

I once had a chat with Martin Carr in a Camden pub circa 1996 and told him this was my favourite Boo Radleys song

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 26 October 2014 08:15 (nine years ago) link

The new martin Carr album is pretty good

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

Really wanted to see him play at the Lexington tomorrow but sadly have to be somewhere else. Must seek out the new one.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link

Really love the new Martin Carr album. Went back and listened to the last one and enjoyed it too. I think I like him a little more subdued and less feedback freakout.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

did not know about Martin Carr's new album, will have to seek that out.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link

Carr record doesn't sound markedly different than the Bravecaptain stuff that got killed on this board – it's just less Bacharach and glitch and more Britpop guitar-y.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 November 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

here is a new interview with Martin Carr that happened just this month: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/martin-carr-breaks-after-boo-8373791 just bought The Breaks without hearing a song on Amazon.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:34 (nine years ago) link

btw, The Boo Radleys poll is still on track for February of 2015, going to be fun. won't be the first one, maybe the second or third one that will happen after the EOY polls wrap up.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link

Looking forward to the poll Bee. Don't think it will have quite the turnout that your Steely Dan one did but excited anyway.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link

Well, I'll be in it, and I wasn't for SD, so call that net +2

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

i'll def be voting. can't wait.

i have the breaks on vinyl. only listened to it a couple of times. the style is very mid-90s boo radleys, so while it verges on the retro, the best bits are as good as anything the band released circa wake up.

quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link

wow, really? now i'm really excited about getting that CD in the mail.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

the Boo Radleys poll is up next, i have only been listening to them to prepare. they are so fucking good as i feel like i have almost forgot, poll is going to be a blast.

Bee OK, Saturday, 21 March 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link

Martin Carr is playing at the union chapel in about 11 hours time (12 noon today).

koogs, Saturday, 21 March 2015 03:51 (nine years ago) link

I was there! lovely show. enjoyed the medieval horror-folk duo as well.

why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Saturday, 21 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

At 4am my maths is terrible.

That box she had was full of bees, bees of different sizes.

koogs, Saturday, 21 March 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

What was that thing? it was the most unwieldy box shaped instrument to make such a minimal tone (like someone playing a long drone on harmonica)

why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Saturday, 21 March 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

hi.

Mark G, Saturday, 21 March 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

It was a shruti box, an Indian harmonium. Strange noise from a non electric instrument.

koogs, Saturday, 21 March 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OacT6M5CI9k

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 30 March 2017 11:40 (seven years ago) link

Lyrics are pretty cringeworthy, eh.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 30 March 2017 15:58 (seven years ago) link

Revive sent me back to Kingsize. Still enjoy the big brassy Britpop production, clear melodies and "Choose Your Own Adventure" structures. What a way to go out.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link

for some reason i was unable to add the cd version of kingsize to the archive earlier today.
my optical drive would not recognise it as a cd.

mark e, Thursday, 30 March 2017 16:58 (seven years ago) link

oh wow, thanks for this.

i have said it many time, love, with all my heart Kingsize, it's such a great album if you remove "Free Huey."

Bee OK, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link

rub it in bee ..
would have loved to have added it to the archive today.

mark e, Thursday, 30 March 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link

Wake Up! is commonly viewed as their "pop" album because of the big hit single that they had from the album, but I actually think Kingsize is their "pop" album. The production on it is a lot more fuller, smoother and glossier than on previous efforts, and the songwriting (on the whole) is far more accessible, even if it retains the "room with many doors" approach on several tracks. Word has it that the record company got heavily involved in the making of Kingsize and tried to steer the band in a more commercial direction after C'mon Kids was seen to be deliberate attempt to scare the 'Wake Up Boo!' fans (which the band always denied) and this is ultimately why neither Martin or Sice have any real fond memories of making the record. Nevertheless, even with their most slickest and most accessible record to date, the idea of the Boo Radleys suddenly selling a massive truckload of records in 1998 was a laughable one. I still prefer both Wake Up! and C'mon Kids to Kingsize, although I heard Everything's Alright Forever recently and found it to be mostly awful, apart from 'Smile Fades Fast', 'Memory Babe', 'Does This Hurt?' and a couple of others.

The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Thursday, 30 March 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link


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