The Boo Radleys, Classic or Dud?

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I've always found this band to lack that extra special charm...I think it's the vocals. They don't really have much character, do they?

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 7 February 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

idk the boyishness of the vocals well suits the wide-eyed pocket-adventure quality of much of the music

imago, Thursday, 7 February 2013 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

the cover of Giant Steps is absolutely horrible

Poliopolice, Thursday, 7 February 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

Joel is a beautiful song the string arrangements and then it goes full on Revolver by the end

dog latin, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

idk the boyishness of the vocals well suits the wide-eyed pocket-adventure quality of much of the music

― imago, Thursday, February 7, 2013 11:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I quite like it how, on things like 'Run My Way Runway', Sice is like, this tiny voice in the middle of chaos. His small voice actually does the trick of making the music seem bigger.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 February 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link

OTM. The one thing his voice just doesn't suit are brash pop numbers - I never liked or saw the point in It's Lulu, C'mon Kids, Free Huey etc...

dog latin, Friday, 8 February 2013 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

I don't mind his brash voice so much on 'What's In The Box? (See Whatcha Got)', but I do get what you mean!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 February 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe it's because I'm not a super fan and I have a place in my heart for pretty cheesy pop songs, but I don't get why something like "It's Lulu" stands out as a blatantly bad song. I never thought it was that bad in the scheme of things...not that I've listened to it in years.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

I like the horns.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

It's just such a drag. The whole premise behind the song and the lyrics are weak and condescending. It's brash in a horrible alarm clock kind of way. It sticks out from the rest of the album like a sore thumb. Just sounds like Carr was asked to do another Wake Up Boo and tossed this off in about five minutes.

dog latin, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

'It's Lulu' might have been one of the first songs written for Wake Up!, actually... I remember reading that Martin wrote it while the band were mixing Giant Steps. Apparently he tried to write it in the style of the Buzzcocks.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

I read an interview where he says he hates it, so I guess I'm just not listening to it with very critical ears. I always wonder how artists can hate their own songs.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

When artists 'give-in' to their baser instincts, (ta, Eno!) and then live to regret it/

Mark G, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

It's very 1995 though, isn't it? I get the same feeling from it as I do whenever I listen to Grand Prix, it always reminds me of that specific year. I don't really get the same feeling of "this sounds like a specific year" whenever I listen to C'mon Kids.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 8 February 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

squeaky brass was a britpop trait. brass seems to be making a bit of a comeback, but it's deeper and lower. imo anyway.

dog latin, Friday, 8 February 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

btw, i'm going to do an artist poll for the Boo Radleys. it will come up sometime in the next five year.

Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

61. Iggy Pop, incl. Stooges - flopson
62. Boo Radleys - Bee OK
63. XTC - Shakey Mo Collier

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 February 2013 03:26 (eleven years ago) link

that is a joke, hopefully it won't be in five years.

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 February 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link

Well, the poll/ballots have really slowed down lately

Mark G, Saturday, 9 February 2013 08:51 (eleven years ago) link

Looking forward to it. I think a boo Radleys poll was what started the idea of that coordination thread.

dog latin, Saturday, 9 February 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

Yep, will undoubtedly be participating in it... and then the XTC poll afterwards!!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Saturday, 9 February 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

Well, the poll/ballots have really slowed down lately

well it does stop every time in late December for the end of the year stuff. it does gets going again about now.

i'm going to do New Order at 36, starting to feel the pressure...

Bee OK, Sunday, 10 February 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago) link

"Giant Steps" is mostly a classic. Wake Up is hit or miss. Their talent didnt always match their Mcacartney-like ambitions to dabble in all genres but even the Boos failures had their charm.

Cunga, Sunday, 10 February 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link

Re. the hit and miss aspect of the Boos (which I agree), I'd say Carr took on too much himself really. I know most bands usually have a talisman or whatever, but they had scope and ambition beyond many of their contemporaries (especially when you get to around 1995) that was...kind of realised.

Master of Treacle, Sunday, 10 February 2013 02:53 (eleven years ago) link

they could've made artistically smaller albums that would've hit the sweet spot for this or that niche or indie ghetto, but the Boos seemed to want to make a pop record, like the kind that were common in the 60s, that could blow minds with its scope and innovation and ability to have something for everybody. Didn't obviously work, but I'm glad they tried.

Cunga, Sunday, 10 February 2013 07:24 (eleven years ago) link

Well, "kingsize" did that, but it came too easy to MCarr and he wanted to try/ fail at more difficult things

Mark G, Sunday, 10 February 2013 11:19 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

he's playing at the lexington next week. really wish i could go but got an important band practice :-( :-(

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Friday, 24 October 2014 08:48 (nine years ago) link

are we still doing a boos poll?

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Friday, 24 October 2014 09:35 (nine years ago) link

Yes, it will happen probably February 2015.

Bee OK, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link

'Reaching Out From Here' still does it for me after all these years.

Welcome To (Turrican), Friday, 24 October 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link

because of that nugget, i posted above, i dug out Find the Way Out comp today. this band is so fucking good. stuff like "The Finest Kiss," "Spaniard," "Best Lose the Fear" and "I've Lost the Reason" are all magnificent.

Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:29 (nine years ago) link

can't wait for February to do this poll.

Bee OK, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:30 (nine years ago) link

Don't forget Fosters Van. Those early EPs have so many glorious moments.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link

'Reaching Out From Here' still does it for me after all these years.

― Welcome To (Turrican)

Beautiful song. Should have been the second single after Wake Up Boo.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:43 (nine years ago) link

Don't forget Fosters Van. Those early EPs have so many glorious moments.

― Shepard Toney Album (dog latin)

Swansong is my favourite from those first three EPs. The verse is a bit too similar to Fade to Grey by Visage but it's one of those great sad songs they did so well.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

Don't forget Fosters Van.

I once had a chat with Martin Carr in a Camden pub circa 1996 and told him this was my favourite Boo Radleys song

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 26 October 2014 08:15 (nine years ago) link

The new martin Carr album is pretty good

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link

Really wanted to see him play at the Lexington tomorrow but sadly have to be somewhere else. Must seek out the new one.

Shepard Toney Album (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link

Really love the new Martin Carr album. Went back and listened to the last one and enjoyed it too. I think I like him a little more subdued and less feedback freakout.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link

did not know about Martin Carr's new album, will have to seek that out.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link

Carr record doesn't sound markedly different than the Bravecaptain stuff that got killed on this board – it's just less Bacharach and glitch and more Britpop guitar-y.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 November 2014 00:02 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

here is a new interview with Martin Carr that happened just this month: http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/martin-carr-breaks-after-boo-8373791 just bought The Breaks without hearing a song on Amazon.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:34 (nine years ago) link

btw, The Boo Radleys poll is still on track for February of 2015, going to be fun. won't be the first one, maybe the second or third one that will happen after the EOY polls wrap up.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link

Looking forward to the poll Bee. Don't think it will have quite the turnout that your Steely Dan one did but excited anyway.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:49 (nine years ago) link

Well, I'll be in it, and I wasn't for SD, so call that net +2

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:26 (nine years ago) link

i'll def be voting. can't wait.

i have the breaks on vinyl. only listened to it a couple of times. the style is very mid-90s boo radleys, so while it verges on the retro, the best bits are as good as anything the band released circa wake up.

quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link

wow, really? now i'm really excited about getting that CD in the mail.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

the Boo Radleys poll is up next, i have only been listening to them to prepare. they are so fucking good as i feel like i have almost forgot, poll is going to be a blast.

Bee OK, Saturday, 21 March 2015 03:46 (nine years ago) link

Martin Carr is playing at the union chapel in about 11 hours time (12 noon today).

koogs, Saturday, 21 March 2015 03:51 (nine years ago) link

I was there! lovely show. enjoyed the medieval horror-folk duo as well.

why dont u say something or like just die (dog latin), Saturday, 21 March 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link


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