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. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

haha no it's a los campesinos lyric :/

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

the frankie knuckles version of Blind is also much better than the orig

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The Hercules Club Mix is better than both.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

loool @ jaymc

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, listening to it now, it's shit

like, get a tune that doesn't base itself on a piss-weak 8-bar loop for 3 minutes, ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples, get rid of the annoying voice, use a beat that isn't soporific, and basically stop making music

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

some EMD here but Knuckles >> OG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the boring boring Club Mix

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Anthony Guy ("Tony") Cascarino (born 1 September 1962 in St Paul's Cray, Orpington, Kent, England) is a former association football player. He made his name as a striker for various British and French football clubs and for the Republic of Ireland national football team.

Cascarino was born in England but represented the Republic of Ireland, qualifying through his Irish grandfather. However, he later revealed that his mother told him in 1996 that she was adopted and therefore no blood relative to the grandfather. Cascarino said in his autobiography: "I didn't qualify for Ireland. I was a fraud. A fake Irishman". However, through the adoption his mother gained the right to Irish citizenship and therefore he was indeed eligible.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Paper Planes was technically released and was a critical darling in 2007 but 2008 was its year. not everything can be easily delimited by calendar year. also, consider songs that have multiple releases, or peak in different regions of the world at different.

lil waynes babymama (musically), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

He has become something of a cult figure and was referenced in the song "All Your Kayfabe Friends" by Welsh band Los Campesinos! where the singer tells that "You asked if I'd be anyone from history / Fact or fiction, dead or alive / I said I'd be Tony Cascarino, circa 1995."

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

1995 is a weird year to pick

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

ditch the crappy, corny, crass guns'n'money samples
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The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Am I doing a good enough job at relieving the unbearable tension?

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

lj, I'm not even that big a fan of PP but way to get completely blindsided by the entire point of the song

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

You can do those kind of samples well. MIA's are just pointless gimackry, once they've come the first time they fall predictably on the beat every time that "chorus" comes round (which is the same as the "verse")

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I prefer my gunshot and cash register samples in 12/8.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture, whatever. It's got the sophistication of a boiled egg and I hate it.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 22:59 (fifteen years ago) link

boo hiss at M.I.A. voters. I'll forgive those that voted for "With Every Heartbeat" and "Rehab" as being unaware the first time around - but who the heck on ILM hadn't heard "Paper Planes" in 2007?

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

lol Matt, what I'm saying is that one or two here and there upon a particularly cutting lyric really can work, but using it as a chorus is shit.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture
it's a big stupid anthem celebrating/satirising London's vibrant gangsta culture

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

YO DAWG WE HERD YOU LIKE CHALLOPS

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

It's like saying "Perfect Day" was the best song of 1996 because it was used in that movie.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I hadn't, btw xps. This is in fact the first time I've knowingly heard it.

Rev, sometimes I toss off a deliberately facile line as a means of flippant dismissal. This was one of those times.

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

not everything can be easily delimited by calendar year.

^^^otm

It's not even arguable that this song reached its peak outside of small knowledgeable circles in 2007. Its year was 2008.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm typically impartial at best when it comes to guns n' cash samples, but for some reason I really like them in "Paper Planes," not for their symbolic import, but for their musical quality. I cannot explain this.

I really like the beat & (especially) the bassline in the DFA remix, but the vocals lose their "open air" quality and being synched with the tight pace makes the whole ordeal a little too claustrophobic for my tastes.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

It's like saying "Perfect Day" was the best song of 1996 because it was used in that movie.

― danzig, Friday, February 6, 2009 3:02 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Was "Perfect Day" also a huge hit that got played on the radio all the time that year?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Was 1995 pre-buying the league? Because Marseille were pretty great until all that hit.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

It's like saying "Perfect Day" was the best song of 1996 because it was used in that movie.

Was it a charting single in several countries? Because if it wasn't, it's not the same thing at all.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe he still thought he was a real Irishman in 1995, and in 1996 he realised he was a fraud?

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Was "Perfect Day" also a huge hit that got played on the radio all the time that year? - No, but "Lust For Life" was.

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

big cas could still do a job at the top level

Local Garda, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Paper Planes was only released as a single for the first time this year, I'd say it counts. Andy Townsend.

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Was "Perfect Day" also a huge hit that got played on the radio all the time that year? - so much so they did a charity version of it the next year.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

He has publicly told Giovanni Trappatoni that if the side needs him he'll be available, for all eternity.

Local Garda, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Again, the public at large didn't give two shits about "Lust for Life" until 1996 and, if it was re-released as a physical single at the time, it would've probably been eligible for consideration.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Roy Keane on the other hand, said "stick it up yer bollocks, you 2007 cunt".

Maximo Park Ji-Sung (Matt DC), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

ILX's two "grandmothers" have suddenly and tragically asked that Paper Planes be voted for

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

who the heck on ILM hadn't heard "Paper Planes" in 2007?

Um... It's pretty easy not to catch things the first time round, especially if you hold the artist in the special kind of contempt reserved for useful idiots and poshos who think they're succeeding against all odds. Anyway, as others have pointed out it only clicked this last year and, contempt notwithstanding, is a magnificent record. Anyway, it was released as a single in 2008 and therefore meets the rules

Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a huge difference between a song that's a few months old taking on a new popularity (ffs it wasn't even released as a single until December) and song that's something like 20 years old. Is that a tremendously difficult concept?

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

There was a bunch of reissues on the albums poll (Pacific Ocean Blue for one) - same difference?

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I love Kala, but better songs like Bamboo Banga, Boyz and 20 Dollar are invisible in comparison with Paper Planes since Pineapple Express it seems

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

and slumdog millionaire, ugh.

danzig, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Likewise, the Vampire Weekend songs have been floating around since the fall of 2007, yet "A-Punk" (and possibly "Oxford Comma") wasn't officially released until the top of 2008.

I guess the real argument is that it placed on the ILM poll two years running. Perhaps we can install a "Paper Planes" clause in the future that will prevent such a thing from happening.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Again, the public at large didn't give two shits about "Lust for Life" until 1996 and, if it was re-released as a physical single at the time, it would've probably been eligible for consideration.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, February 6, 2009 6:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

By this rationale, could "Bohemian Rhapsody" have been considered in a 1991 poll, or would it have been disqualified b/c it was also a hit the first time around (even though it was a bigger hit the second time)?

Ricky Apples (Pillbox), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Naw, cause then you get things like "Rehab" or "With Every Heartbeat" that scrape in one year on certain demographics and then are consensus picks the next. xp

The Reverend (rev), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

How many non-singles feature in this top 50? I know National Shite Day is one...

Robin van Injury (country matters), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

you'd think after years of those robyn/annie albums being part of polls, ilx would have come up with some sort of reasoning for this situation already.

xpost.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont think that there needs to be any rules - as i said earlier this is a pretty unique situation

your infinity in you is mad lifted (J0rdan S.), Friday, 6 February 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the reasoning is, "who gives a shit, if they get votes they're a song of the year"

caek, Friday, 6 February 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link


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