Is this anti-semitism?

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http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/122877/germanys-most-annoying-jew

The Entebbe raid of 1976, Broder wrote, was his “private awakening.” At Entebbe, the Palestinian terrorists and their European comrades made a selection: They spared non-Jewish passengers while they continued to hold the Jewish ones as hostages. The Palestinians couldn’t tell on the basis of last names whether passengers were Jewish or not, so one of their German collaborators, Wilfried Böse, helped them out. When a Jewish passenger showed Böse his death camp tattoo, Böse is supposed to have responded that he was no Nazi, but rather an “idealist.” U.N. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, whose Nazi past later came under scrutiny, condemned the Israeli action as a violation of Ugandan sovereignty, and the German “anti-imperialist” left agreed with Waldheim. In the aftermath of the Israeli raid, German Maoists expressed their solidarity with “his excellency Idi Amin.”

Broder, in disgust, turned away from the radical left. In the German leftist imagination, he later argued, Gaza became the Warsaw Ghetto, and Palestinians became Jews. “Never again” came to mean “don’t let our victims do what we did”; Germans, Broder said, loved to reiterate “the eternal German worry about whether the Israelis have learned the lesson of history.” “The Israelis are responsible for anti-Semitism” is now, Broder declared, the most prevalent form of anti-Semitism, in Germany as elsewhere.

Mordy, Friday, 1 February 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Last week, Analisis24, a right-leaning Argentinean news website, released 50 documents attributed to the Venezuelan intelligence agency containing private information on prominent Venezuelan Jews, local Jewish organizations and Israeli diplomats in Latin America. The Anti-Defamation League, among others, believes the documents are authentic based on the wealth of detailed and private information included.

Mordy, Friday, 1 February 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

...and the apoplogy..
"Sunday Times acting editor apologises for cartoon" :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21253364

nostormo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

Dozens of comments contained the phrase “shoananas,” a combination of the Hebrew name for the Holocaust with the French world for pineapple. Coined by the anti-Semitic comedian Dieudonne, it is used as a code word for denying the Holocaust seen to be too vague to violate France’s law forbidding it.

who knew?

http://forward.com/articles/170552/french-muslim-rapper-hit-by-anti-semitic-rants/#ixzz2K2YALQ5H

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

Is "anti-Semitic comedian" an actual field, or is he simply a comedian who is anti-Semitic?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

"What kind of comedy do you do?"

"Mostly observational stuff. And you?"

"Oh, you know, some crowd work, a little anti-Semitism..."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

"In 2012 Dieudonné made his directorial debut in a film called “L’Antisémite” (“The Anti-Semite”),[10] which stars him as a violent and alcoholic character who dresses as a Nazi officer at a party, and also features the Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson, as well as imagery that mocks the Auschwitz concentration camp.[11] The movie, which was produced by the Iranian Documentary and Experimental Film Center and is also known by the title “Yahod Setiz,” was canceled at the Cannes Film Festival's Marché du Film, where it was to be screened."

?!?!

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

he is really terrible

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

"What kind of comedy do you do?"

"Mostly observational stuff. And you?"

"Oh, you know, some crowd work, a little anti-Semitism..."

lol

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

"Take my Jew, please!"

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Pierre-André Taguieff, a French specialist on racism, told me that Dieudonné in some ways reminds him of Céline, who, in 1937, “sensed something in the air, coming partly from abroad, from Germany and other parts of Europe, and partly from France—a feeling that anti-Semitism was becoming a strong cause, with a broad resonance, across the political spectrum. I think Dieudonné sensed a similar thing in 2001 to 2002, after the second intifada.” He went on, “I think our Dieudonné has quite a keen intuition for the movements of public opinion, and he immediately sought to instrumentalize this creeping anti-Semitism in public opinion by bringing it into his sketches, as a popular provocation, as a means of connecting with people on a visceral level. Dieudonné is a provocateur; he exists through provocation.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

that article literally makes me feel ill whenever i think about it

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh, on Sunday night I was out for a few drinks in my local, and some kid I hadn't met before came over and kept bothering me (I think someone had pointed me out as a leftist, which he claimed to be as well). Anyway, he was deeply irritating in his crude conspiracy theory 'sheeple' stuff. At one point he repeated the old 'jews were warned about 9-11' story. Surprisingly hard to engage with people like that, even if you have the energy, which I don't. After denying this was an anti-Semitic story he started on about how 'jews are only interested in money anyway'. I haven't had much exposure to that sort of stuff, even being politically active on the Left, which sometimes gets hijacked by anti-Israel stuff. Anyway, I told him to fuck off because he was doing my head in (and I'm generally very nice to idiots). Anyway it's obviously antisemitism, I was just surprised that the 9-11 stuff was still in circulation.

the so-called socialista (dowd), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

all conspiracy theories eventually lead to anti-semitism ime

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

you should report him to the Elders of Zion. he'll be out of a job within a week!

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

theyre all rooted in anti-semitism! or most of em at least.

max, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

every passover we get together and laugh our asses off about the moon landing

bnw, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

btw in this vein i would be interested to hear this threads take on umberto eco's prague cemetery, which is sort of a fictional history of the protocols of the elders of zion that attempts to show its anti-semitic narrator as a lunatic but i think kinda revels a little too much in his anti-semitism

max, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

i mean if nothing else its a pretty difficult read

max, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

wait did we genetically engineer the AIDS virus? I forget

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

best lunatic anti-semitic narrator in literature is Col. Pyat imo

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Dieudonné is Batman-villain-level of insane. He used to be good, you know, when he was in a duo act with a jewish comedian.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

the funny thing is that if you had to pick a minority group that was the biggest victim of actual conspiracy theories, well, jews would def be up there

zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Whom do I hate? I could say the Jews, but the fact that I am yielding so compliantly to the suggestions of that Austrian (or German) doctor suggests I have nothing against the damned Jews.

All I know about the Jews is what my grandfather taught me. "They are the most godless people," he used to say. "They start off from the idea that good must happen here, not beyond the grave. Therefore they work only for the conquest of this world."

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

btw in this vein i would be interested to hear this threads take on umberto eco's prague cemetery, which is sort of a fictional history of the protocols of the elders of zion that attempts to show its anti-semitic narrator as a lunatic but i think kinda revels a little too much in his anti-semitism

― max, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 3:40 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sounds like an unnecessarily risky narrative methodology.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

I dreamt about Jews every night for years and years.

http://i45.tinypic.com/6h3n0l.jpg

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

There are Paris intellectuals who, before expressing their distaste for Jews, concede that some of their best friends are Jews. Hypocrisy. I have no Jewish friends (God forbid). All my life I've avoided Jews. Perhaps I have instinctively avoided them, because the Jew (like the German) can be identified by his smell (as Victor Hugo put it, fetor judaica). This and other signs help them to recognize each other, as pederasts do. My grandfather used to say that their smell is due to the excessive use of garlic and onion, and perhaps mutton and goose, coated with sticky sugars that make them splenetic. But it must also be the race itself — their infected blood, their feeble loins. They are all communists — look at Marx and Lassalle. In this respect, my Jesuits were right for once.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

the narrator, i should be clear, is presented as unambiguously insane and unstable, and likely jewish himself. but ya... as you can see in the stuff mordy is quoting, its still really difficult to get through

max, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

Nothing wrong with garlic and onion imho

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

I don't really have a big problem with what's quoted? It's clearly ridiculous.

and this for example:

"They are the most godless people," he used to say. "They start off from the idea that good must happen here, not beyond the grave."

it continues on in an anti-semitic vein, but this seems like the type of thing that is designed to have an alternative reading, ie "better that than apocalyptic American evangelicals".

hot slag (lukas), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

There, I thought, the little Semite parvenu, working his way into respectable families to advance in his career. And did his concern about his fiancée not betray the sensual and lascivious nature of the Jew, always thinking about sex? You think about her at night, don't you? And maybe you touch yourself fantasizing about her — you too should read Tissot. But I let him go on.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

it's a long book and there's a lot more. you probably have to have a strong constitution to make it all the way through.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

you really find that offensive, rather than silly/pathetic?

hot slag (lukas), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

i think the notes from underground protagonist is simultaneously pathetic + horrific and i guess i feel similar about the protagonist for prague cemetery? being silly/pathetic does not mean that it's not upsetting - after all isn't all anti-semitism pretty silly? the idea that ~12 million jews (%0.02 of world pop iirc?) are controlling governments, banks, hollywood... still destructive ideology.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

you never hear about the young'uns of Zion

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

whippersnappers of zion

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link

the welders

© all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

tweens of zion

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Thursday, 7 February 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

A guy on a sales call just reassured me that he's not trying to jew me.

Mordy, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

did you say "too late, I'm already Jewish"?

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

thought this might be a bump for the slow-learner english football pundit who described an error in a match last night as potentially being 'a holocaust'

the exact same thing has happened before i think, which suggests rather like 'rape' to mean 'physically dominate opponent', 'holocaust' to mean 'disastrous mistake' is part of football's private idiolect

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

John Galliano's new look

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

ajl nagl

bnw, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

such a bawbag

every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

thats how he always dresses and wears his hair

max, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

You'd think the Post would know how to spell 'schmuck'.

karl lagerlout (suzy), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link

Like when they called Ed Koch a "mench"

max, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

maybe they misspelled "menk"?

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link


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