should there be more tipping or less tipping

I'm going to start tipping in bitcoins

if we could tip ilxors w/ bitcoins for good posts, this site would improve dramatically

or at least give them some of that sweet banner ad cashflow

"tipping is the only way you can give/receive money to/from virtual strangers without it being weird"

nope nope, this is always weird. it makes every act of kindness or decency subject to market incentive while all parties have to conspire to pretend it doesn't. straight up just giving money to strangers by comparison is a breeze.

is kickstarter really just a form of tipping

i tip 17.5% in restaurants just cuz that's the math i like to do in my head.

I want to get into a meeting with some venture capitalists and offer them t-shirts as return on their investment. "If you invest a quarter of a million dollars, you will receive this company t-shirt. If you invest one half of one million dollars, I will eat lunch with you and two of your friends."

"c'mon. be a dude. it's kickstarter grandpa!"

yah kickstarter is way closer to just straight up giving strangers money than tipping.

esp if they don't end up actually giving you the t-shirt or having lunch with you.

a fried of a friend was trying to turn his food truck into a restaurant on kickstarter. they were offering meals at the restaurant (at what would've been a hefty markup) as the return. put a business plan together and get some actual investors. hate kickstarter sometimes.

in asia, tipping doesn't happen. and, in most places, service kinda sucks pretty bad. otoh, i have several friends who wait tables in america, and they make pretty good money for it, even when you factor in the rare dickwad who doesn't tip. and service in america tends to be way better than in, say, singapore, where they get (shitty) regular paychecks instead.

so, tipping - let's keep it.

if we could tip ilxors w/ bitcoins for good posts, this site would improve dramatically

they have this system at metafilter, and it goes a long way towards keeping things considered, civil and interesting

whoa really how much money can you make

if this catches on some nabisco type dude can make a career out of being a good message board poster

perhaps i misunderstood the meaning of "bitcoins" on mefi it's "favorites" and is basically nothing more than warm fuzzies, sorry for the confusion. still nothing like getting positive feedback! it's not entirely unlike tipping

Bitcoins are an "actual" "currency"

You can use em to buy drugs on the internet

i would be the BEST POSTER EVER if it would allow me to buy drugs on the internet.

"in asia, tipping doesn't happen. and, in most places, service kinda sucks pretty bad."
I haven't eaten in enough of asia or america to say conclusively, but I suspect that controlled for most factors, you're going to get better service in asia, and america really can't hold a claim over providing better welfare for its workers at least over asian countries with nationalized public health services. I'd agree that mefi is generally a better environment than reddit, but reddit also has "tipping", as does yahoo answers and they are generally pretty awful. I'd suspect mefi might even have been worsened by the introduction of this fake tipping if there was a pre and post-tipping era.

On the other hand, I do feel people on social networks ought to receive a cut of whatever ad money facebook et. al are making off them, but that's more of a "reparations" thing than "incentiviziivizing"

Gonna start a thread for the mods to tell us what % of posts we're getting fp'd for, reverse tipping score

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no ilx consensus for blah blah shockah

Experiments:

That’s one reason we pay attention when a restaurant tries another way, as Sushi Yasuda in Manhattan started to do two months ago. Raising most of its prices, it appended this note to credit card slips: “Following the custom in Japan, Sushi Yasuda’s service staff are fully compensated by their salary. Therefore gratuities are not accepted.”

Sushi Yasuda joins other restaurants that have done away with tips, replacing them with either a surcharge (Atera and Chef’s Table at Brooklyn Fare in New York; Next and Alinea in Chicago; Coi and Chez Panisse in the San Francisco Bay Area) or prices that include the cost of service (Per Se in New York and the French Laundry in Yountville, Calif.).

The chef Tom Colicchio is considering service-included pricing at one of his New York restaurants, paying servers “an hourly rate that would be consistent with what they make now,” he said. “I think it makes perfect sense. I’m not sure my staff is going to think it makes perfect sense.”

These restaurants are numerous enough and important enough to suggest that a tip-reform movement is under way. On the other hand, they are few enough and exceptional enough to suggest that the movement may remain very small, and move very slowly.

Public NYC Taxicab Database Lets You See Which Celebrities Tipped

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/11/10/joes-crab-shack-becomes-first-restaurant-chain-to-implement-no-tipping-policy/

I know you'll be shocked that the Fox News comments are universally godawful

https://www.grubstreet.com/2020/07/tip-50-percent.html

Tip at least 50 percent. Tip 75 percent. Tip 100 percent. What’s stopping you? Do you need to save that money for the vacation to Saint-Tropez you’re planning on taking once this is all over? If you can afford to go to a restaurant right now and have a leisurely meal — because you don’t need to save as much money as you can? — then, yeah, you can afford it.

Tip 200 percent. Tip 300 percent! Give the delivery guy your car and the deed to your house. If you can order food, you are the CEO of a Fortune 500 country, save those stories about how you ordered out because your back hurt too much to cook because you're taking care of your disabled spouse and your kids, clearly there's a jar full of stacks atop your fridge!

Once there was a miller who was poor, but who had a beautiful
daughter. Now it happened that he had to go and speak to the
king, and in order to make himself appear important he said
to him, I have a daughter who can spin straw into gold. The
king said to the miller, that is an art which
pleases me well, if your daughter is as clever as you say, bring
her to-morrow to my palace, and I will put her to the test.

Haha Neanderthal

Tipping is usually 15% in Quebec, which apparently makes us cheapskates. Vermonters and Upstate New Yorkers who work in the service industry reportedly cringe when they see 'Je me souviens' licence plates.

If it's any consolation, I lived in Buffalo for three years and waitresses resented Ontarians just as much.

Socialist neighbours are such a drag.

also servers in canada still make less than provincial minimum wage, which is why you still tip

Btw, this is false in seven provinces and only true for liquor servers in Ontario and BC (who are just under minimum wage $12.20 vs $14/$13.95 vs $14.60). I don't even really know why we tip as much as we do.

https://www.payworks.ca/payroll-legislation/MinimumWage.asp

I don’t know what tipping means

Something to do with sleeping cows iirc

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/trump-administration-tippers-fine-dining-dc.html