ILM's Top 77 Albums of 2012

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❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:05 (eleven years ago) link

I'd invite Scott Walker to my dinner party as long as he promised not to do any le pétomane shit. I'd serve pork obv

castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link

Scott Walker seems like a dude. He'd definitely be invited to my hypothetical dinner party. As long as he didn't mind just eating takeaway pizza.

Ariel Pink would be incredibly low on my dinner party guestlist, and I like the guy's music for the most part. He's a massive bellend.

emil.y, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

lol gr8080

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

what's the deal w/ariel pink as a person, did i miss something egregious in '12?

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

this: http://thequietus.com/articles/10133-ariel-pink-beta-male-misogyny

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

specifically, this quote: "beta males have got it figured out so that they don't have to chase or rape their prey, so to speak"

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

Bisexual shaming, trans* shaming, misogyny. Even if it was playing up to a character/trolling, it's a shitty level of discourse, and he's a dick.

xps

emil.y, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

answering my own question: a bit of research reveals that the last time any jazz made the list was 2007, when both ornette coleman & ayelet rose gottlieb placed. Doesn't seem to happen often though.

castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

All the more impressive in 2007, when the rollout only consisted of 50 albums.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link

Honest question from someone who doesn't spend much time with mainstream music:

My impression is that critically acclaimed R&B stuff (i.e. stuff that placed in this poll) tends to be fairly commercially successful as well. Is that accurate?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

Miguel, yes. Dawn Richard, not so much.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:15 (eleven years ago) link

none of the r&b acts in the top 10 have had a uk top 40 hit

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

UK Top 40 blows

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

wow, ariel pink...

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

miguel has obv had huge commercial success in the US (but not on the hot 100, iirc?)
dunno if frank's had a breakout single but i gather the album has done well
same for jessie
dawn is doing her solo career with a team of 5 people and a budget of $5

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

Alright, everybody...let's meet back here in a little less than 11 months and do this again. Also, find me good shit to listen to/vote for, because I've apparently grown lazy.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

"Adorn" hit Top 20 in America.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

none of the r&b acts in the top 10 have had a uk top 40 hit

this is crackers

tpp, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

Jessie Ware's biggest UK single is Wildest Moments at #46. Frank's is Lost at #53. Adorn reached #176! I just find that unfathomable.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

no church in the wild got to 32, but yeah it doesn't really count.

danzig, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think the UK counts in this case, ha.

Frank Ocean is huge though, right? What about others lower on the list?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Frank Ocean is "internet huge".

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Like "Snakes On A Plane?" And Ron Paul?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

he's also real world huge

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link

Is he? I don't follow charts or sales figures, like, ever...but I had the impression he still had a modicum of undergroundness.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

great results btw. Would have voted for miguel #1 and nothing else as putting my trax ballot together drained the life out of me. but felt sheepish

danzig, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

Jessie Ware and Frank Ocean have both had top five albums in the UK now (top 2 in Frank's case). Miguel doesn't really have much of a profile over here at all, although I did hear a car playing Kaleidoscope Dream really loudly this morning.

Frank Ocean is approaching household name status in this country for coming out if nothing else. He's properly huge in the way that I dunno The Weeknd or someone isn't.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I don't really think of Frank Ocean as an internet phenomenon at all really, just a mainstream popstar.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Miguel's sales are way better cumulatively than Ocean's.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

he's real world huge as in obese like max

:C (crüt), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

According to stats linked on Wikipedia Channel Orange has sold 500k+ in the US, Good Kid 675k and Kaleidoscope Dream 270k (All I Want Is You is 400k). Taylor Swift's Red has sold 3.3m. So I don't know about "huge" but, like Matt DC says, Frank seems to be culturally big in a way that goes beyond his sales.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

they play frank all the time on the radio here in switzerland

tpp, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

I have heard the following albums at dinner parties and other social gatherings this year:

Beach House
Miguel (four times! He seems to garnering a following among p4k types)
Kendrick Lamar
Cat Power
The XX
Band of Horses
Frank Ocean
A$AP Rocky

Tim F, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I don't mean an internet phenomenon like Rebecca Black or Psy (who has obvs crossed over at this point), but that his most vocal supporters and his platform seem more web driven than a trad label-backed star.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

but it's a stretch to call Ocean a pop star

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

jesus why am I just hearing this miguel album now, this is AMAZING

I loved art dealer chic too so I really have no excuse. Kinda took a year off from music in 2012, there was a point when the only new albums I'd spent any time with were leonard cohen & dawn richard (good albums to play back-to-back actually, what with the religio-sexual epics of incomparable beauty)

castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

armor on sold 30k :/

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

frank was on SNL this year (with John Mayer in his backing band) but so was Karmin, so

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

Miguel (four times! He seems to garnering a following among p4k types)

i have played miguel at a dinner party! jessie ware was the repeat dinner party soundtrack of 2012 for me though (along with the xx). crucially in all cases no one actually hates them or would object to hearing them

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

One reason I would attend a lex-thrown dinner party is that I could be relatively certain I would hear no Death Grips.*

(*They are okay, but not while I'm eating kthx)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

all the Death Grips stuff I've heard has been terrible

:C (crüt), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

I like to play the sound of animals eating other animals while I eat.

emil.y, Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

Jessie Ware goes splendidly with before-dinner martinis and Brie.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

Form a band Death Cruts

xps

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

Death Grips dinner party would rule, as long as Death Grips wasn't actually there

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

Death Grips would enter through the window and take your Brie.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

ofwgkta would pile in, nibbling everything in sight

castle grayscale (wins), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

oh damn

Ima R.A.E.D. (DJP), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

who plays death grips at a dinner party

katz itt (cozen), Thursday, 31 January 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link


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