My thoughts
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 23:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
i think the section 25 parallels are very apt.. quite a rare thing to hear bands making what feels like their most alive/'passionate' music two decades or more after they began
― electricsound, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 04:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
your review has already been quoted in the words on music news ned!
― electricsound, Thursday, 10 April 2008 00:28 (5 years ago) Permalink
Really? Neat.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 April 2008 00:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
this album is really great, guys
listen to it
― electricsound, Thursday, 5 June 2008 23:56 (4 years ago) Permalink
I have been!
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 June 2008 00:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
I like listening to Echelons at work, like, all the time, it helps me concentrate somehow. I think because it sends me back to my teenage years even though I'd never heard it when it came out - which is odd, because 1987 Cure/Bunnymen/Xymox etc loving me would have eaten this shit up.
― chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Thursday, 28 May 2009 03:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
they have a new EP due out in a month or two, yay
― jump in the looool (electricsound), Thursday, 28 May 2009 03:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
happy happy happy happy happy
Just a little over one year after the release of their critically lauded Shade Side Sunny Side record, For Against’s eighth album, Never Been, will be released on Words On Music this Autumn (ETA: late October). The new record is the second with original guitarist Harry Dingman since his return to the band in 2004 after a 15-year absence, and the first with drummer Nick Buller, who has toured with the band on their last three European tours.
Never Been contains nine new songs: "Sameness," "Different Departures," "Black Willows," "Antidote," "Of a Time," "Per Se," "Specificity," "The Tenebrists," and "You Fade."
Words On Music will announce preorders for the release in the coming weeks.
― more posts that will never be released (electricsound), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hooray! I read a review of a recentish show that just sounded tremendous. Can't wait!
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 24 July 2009 00:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Great to see these folks all just keeping on. :-)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 July 2009 00:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.words-on-music.com/WM27.html
i am so fucking excited
― electric sound of jim (original version) (electricsound), Monday, 28 September 2009 01:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
New album's very good indeed, one of their best I'd say.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 October 2009 03:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
*jealous* mine's still in transit!!
― undergrad lovers (electricsound), Friday, 23 October 2009 03:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
VERY good, the more I listen. There's some strong moments of ominous drama and variety on here I've never heard them try to my knowledge, while still very much sounding like themselves.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 October 2009 04:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think yet again there's a very different mood to this record - where coalesced is the 'up' record and Sx4 is the 'angry' record, this one feels a lot more intense and resigned, and possibly their gothiest since december. i've only heard it through five times so far but i already know it's one of their best and will definitely end up amongst my top three for the year
if i had to complain i'd say that the two instrumentals make it feel a bit EPish overall, but then coalesced only had 7 tracks, one an instrumental, and is as perfect as a record can be.
― any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 October 2009 12:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
Man, these guys just keep coming up with the good stuff huh
― MPx4A, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 15:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'm hearing a bit of early puressence in this record too
― any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
I was just gonna come looking for this thread. Is Shade Side Sunny Side worth getting? I just had a quick listen on emusic and the first track sounds phenomenally dark and gloomy, I liked it a lot. I'm much more a fan of Echelons than anything later so I'm thinking I would?
― i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 03:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's a very dark and quite angry record - i adore it, but then i would. 'underestimate' and 'why are you so angry' from it are among my very favourite FA songs
― any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 03:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
I will obtain much downloads now then woot.
― i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 03:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh good lord "why are you so angry" is a sad song.
― i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think i've probably posted this elsewhere but the whole album sounds to me like a kiss-off to a dying former friend
― any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
Dying in the literal sense? I'll have to listen to the whole thing when I get home, reluctant to hammer the emusic at work.
― i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
dying or sick, maybe..
― any old tawny port in a storm (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:44 (3 years ago) Permalink
'of a time' is *devastating*
― indie spare (electricsound), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 23:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
"new" 7" of very early unreleased recordings out in a couple of months, first of a series apparently, yay
http://www.words-on-music.com/WM29.html
― lemon lime & butters (electricsound), Sunday, 30 May 2010 23:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
the 45 is way delayed but soundclips are up on the above link, the tracks sound pretty great to me
― xanaxdu (electricsound), Friday, 19 November 2010 10:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
And the CD version of said early tracks just arrived in the mail. Lovely stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2011 02:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
woo
hope there's a new album on the way..
― australian rules football quarterback (electricsound), Friday, 11 March 2011 02:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
signed to captured tracks?
― our love will change the world (electricsound), Monday, 14 May 2012 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
looks like it
― akm, Monday, 14 May 2012 06:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
well this looks like it will be fucking beautiful
http://pitchfork.com/news/47006-captured-tracks-to-release-for-against-box-set/
― beater drummer (electricsound), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
So, I came to these guys late (about ten years ago) and I've found their three 90's pretty evasive in second hand shops. The albums I'm talking about are Aperture, Mason's California Lunch Room and Shelf Life.
I've never actually heard any of these — can anyone more well-versed in these guys expound how they place in the bigger picture of the band's discography?
― Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:34 (10 months ago) Permalink
aperture is probably the most "80s indie rock" of the lot, quite a tinny sound but good songs.
mason's is imo their weakest and most samey-sounding but it's still a decent record.
shelflife definitely shows where they were headed with coalesced, though the sound is still a little thin. probably my favourite record of their IPR period, 'lilacs' and 'shadow' rate among their best tracks
― beater drummer (electricsound), Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:48 (10 months ago) Permalink
These guys were devastating at the Big Takeover 30th anniversary show, much much more muscular and intense than on record.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
i'm hoping this reissue stuff is a precursor to some new material v soon
― beater drummer (electricsound), Thursday, 28 June 2012 01:06 (10 months ago) Permalink
So that box set should be out soon. Meantime, if anyone needs it...
http://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/2012/03/for-against-shelf-life-1997-independent.html
(Not on iTunes, Amazon copies are $30 and up.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 05:09 (8 months ago) Permalink
recommended album, 'lilacs' and 'shadow' both among my top FA tracks
― yo is it true mcanus got sonned by a disco after a sunno))) beef (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 05:18 (8 months ago) Permalink
Indeed!
Meantime, an update -- Captured Tracks have pushed back the release by a couple of months, so look for the box in December or January.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:24 (8 months ago) Permalink
no more new material, apparently
http://www.sicmagazine.net/articles/1281/interview-jeff-runnings-from-for-against
― kiss magritte (electricsound), Thursday, 4 April 2013 21:14 (1 month ago) Permalink
Great interview. Kind of a downer tone to the whole thing not just that announcement, though.
xpost: Thanks for that link, Ned. Would love to see proper reissues of that stuff. But I'll take what I can get in the meantime.
― Austin, Friday, 5 April 2013 00:17 (1 month ago) Permalink
One listen to Shelf Life and I have to say yes to the person upthread that said it's a good starting point for where they would go with Coalesced.
However, I got to the last track ('Seascape') and let out a small squeal when I realized it's a cover of the Tracey Thorn song! And a good one, too!
― Austin, Friday, 5 April 2013 02:06 (1 month ago) Permalink
i guess it shouldn't surprise me that drinking played a significant part in his music, there is a strong vibe of dependence running through a lot of his latterday lyrics
it would be a damn shame if runnings didn't do a solo record at some point. someone needs to lean on him a bit
― de stijlled (electricsound), Friday, 5 April 2013 02:26 (1 month ago) Permalink